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17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps it's because humanity cares only about now, that humanity thinks a minor plague like covid which killed only a few million is a cosmically big deal.

We have had 50,000 years to become civilized and stop killing each other, but it's like we never left the cave. All we do is invent better ways of killing each other and polluting our environment.

That's one way to see a reality, but as few have pointed out magnificently, we have some power on the reality. 

Your wallet has power too, every little thing counts.

On the other hand, we know,  and we should accept that, as a physical entity, nobody gets out of here alive.

I think the common goal of spiritual science is to give one the tools ( you can choose those which you prefer ) to improve a " body" (we can call it soul) which is much better than the physical one we have, and apparently can last longer, and keep on improving forever. 

Now those souls are made of our thoughts, feelings, actions etc, and you are the programmer, so to speak.

So, yep, watching the news is not encouraging, and one has to find the courage and the power somewhere deep in his depths. 

20 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have a question for the more religious and spiritually members here. 

 

How do you find this forum, with all the different members spewing in my eyes toxic posts day by day, never ending story. Why are we here continue the same story over and over, again and again, often days and weeks. 

 

Well this tread pauses naturally after awhile when we all had our say.

 

How do you cope with negativity in daily life? 

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to answer the question, but whenever i have to face some sort of subtle aggression, i hear Jesus saying " forgive them, cause they don't know what they are doing ".

In the same way, i forgive myself for my mistakes. 

Basically, all violence comes from fear and/or ignorance. 

I also feel that hate in my heart is an unnecessary weight, and a threat for my peace of mind, so forgiving is a must.

I'm not saying it's easy all the times, but, like everything, one can improve with practice. 

49 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Consciousness, by its nature, continually expands. The nature of consciousness as you understand it as a species will, in one way or another, lead you beyond your limited ideas of reality, for your experience will set challenges that cannot be solved within your current framework. Those problems set by one level of consciousness will automatically cause breakthroughs into other areas of conscious activity, where solutions can be found."

Very much agree, it's going to be some very interesting and challenging years ahead.

I think i can understand why Seth's speeches resonate very well with you, as his use of wording sounds so simple and modern, well, in this case I've come to the same conclusions by spending time trying to decipher the meaning of much older teachings. 

Those unreliable leaders and politicians we were talking about are definitely a sign of the times.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

None of us are 100 % innocent.

Agree, since we are part of a society, we are partly responsible for everything which is right or wrong.

13 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Amongst all of the nuggets you will find distortions as well.  For myself, the less distortion the better.  Seth is about as distortion free as I've ever found.  He eliminates the need to separate the chaff from the grain.  Saves a lot of time.

I can see your point, yet what you call distortions, could be deliberate manipulations, bad translations, omissions, and sometimes just misunderstandings.

If, as i think, the reasons for being here on earth are learning and experiencing different ways of thinking, there's no wasted time, imho, in searching for the truth.

Did Seth mention dark ages, golden ages of humankind, and the challenges the human society as a whole is facing in these times ? 

6 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm not talking about implants.  Getting pregnant naturally.  Carving up and mutilating a man's body so that he can be pregnant is in itself not only dumb but insane as well.  And I hope I don't need to explain to anyone why.

According to Plato, who i find to be an inspired observer of society, the price we pay for being uninterested in politics, is being ruled by the insane. 

3 minutes ago, AP2019 said:

When I had a problem with drugs and alcohol nothing - and I mean nothing - helped me.  I was a convinced agnostic for my whole adult life. Jesus saved me and gave me a new life. And according to his word, he took my sin punishment so that I will not perish at the end of all things.  It's very hard for people to believe, who have not had God work in their life. But in my hypocrisy, when I felt like I was dying from an overdose, I called out to him. And he saved me.

I think Jesus, in a similar case, said:   "it's your faith who saved you".

Another popular saying, " help yourself, and God will help you".

37 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Therefore to me, there is no supernatural being, the universe (whatever it is) is God. There are no churches etc and there is no worship required, it's just there. I'm willing to be  put right, but there's no one living on this planet who can do that for sure.

But, but, is " the universe " conscious?

Because it seems quite well organized to me.

4 minutes ago, KonaRain said:

Guru? Rajneesh the guy who (fell) to having a Rolls for every day of the week? He was the cool guy in '75..not after, sex and power corrupts

At the time when Osho was popular in some countries,  including mine, he was not my favourite guru, and i was a bit suspicious about his followers, but in the years I've read something from him, and surely he cannot be dismissed just because he was travelling in Rolls-Royce etc.

For some people he is a great teacher.

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

and I won't be posting in this thread anymore.

????

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Considering the fact that this reality is one in which we learn to create via ideas then to create one's own life one needn't worry about what anyone else is creating for themselves.  I know what the common answer to that would be.  "But what they create affects me . . ."   Only as much as you allow it to, though

Spot on again, I've spent a lot of time wondering about what people think, perhaps the time has come to give it a little rest.

Btw, i know you don't like religions and such, and you're probably busy extracting every molecule of wisdom from Seth's descriptions, but, having done a lot of cross checking among philosophies, religions and the such, and keeping what i think it's worth, i find quite some similarities with what Don Juan, Jesus, Buddha, Yogananda, Steiner, and others have to say about the so called reality.

10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Yet what is forgotten, or unaccounted for, or dismissed, is the fact that our very existence here serves a very important function to the inner self.  The inner self is unable to experience as we do and thus benefits from and through our experience.  Our existence here is quite important and integral and so any philosophy which attempts to denigrate it grossly misses the point. 

Yes, i can confirm from my experience and other's that this is a very common mistake. 

Yet, ,on the contrary, i see the majority of people so absorbed in their little materialistic bubble, that it feels like a blessing to be different ????

7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Anyway, I want to re-emphasise the point that there is such a thing as bedrock reality which is the source of all believed realities.  There is the possibility of becoming aware of that reality.  And for me, as a design engineer, as someone who has deep appreciation for how things work using the laws which govern this reality, the mechanics of what's really going on is a truly marvel to behold.

Yes, this final explanation is really spot on. 

" the source of all believed realities " is a great image of what some people call "God ".

I've "seen" what you describe, a few times when experimenting with so called psychedelics, and a couple of times thanks to mantras and breathing techniques, and " i know " that what you say is true, although one has to be careful with words, which can easily be misunderstood.

This post is a good effort imho.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

that's a ridiculous accusation.

and that further reinforces my original claim that this thread reeks of a cult.

 

the only people that are open to debate are people who haven't invested their entire lives and their entire personas into what they're spewing on here. you know, the guy who pops in with the occasional comment.

 

but a few of you here have clearly invested a lot of your lives into what you believe.

and you are beyond debating.

woe to anyone who criticizes.

i'm outta here. i don't want to deal with that nonsense.

 

Sorry, but i was not accusing you, i was just giving my impression on the term "mumbo-jumbo ".

So pls, don't take my comment personally. 

37 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Before climbing, didnt you have some fear bubbles that made you have a solid plan, make sure you had the right equipment, training, and also excitement for what going to happen which is the drive? Feeling fear meeting a problem, joy and energy when solving the one and single problem, before next? And the ecstasy when finally overcome the fear. 

Yes, and the opposite too, when in the middle of some ecstasy i was kind of dancing on the brim of a precipice, the look of fear in the face of my friends was something ????

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

As an long time extreme sport athlete They both serve each other in combinations before, during and after. 

interesting, i was thinking of "fear" and " ecstasy " as 2 extreme polarities of the soul. 

the 1st related to the animalistic survival instinct. 

the 2nd, a connection with the spirit. 

Of course, the interaction between those 2 can determine the quality of one's thoughts. 

28 minutes ago, Tayida said:

Personally I give the figure of Christ (whether this was his name, whether or not he was a son of God, whether he was one or three different ones) for having transmitted incredibly new, surprising and revolutionary ideas about relationships between people, the consideration that everyone should have for others, the importance of their actions and forgiveness, especially in a West that knew little about these things

I agree, and not a little feat indeed. 

Humanism would not probably exist without Jesus, and others who were unjustly persecuted, so, again, i don't think that he's overrated. 

1 hour ago, Tayida said:

That then on balance, they turned out to be harmful ideas, is not all his fault I think.

As you said in your post, war are waged for economical reasons, and religion has often been used as an excuse, so to blame Jesus for the bad deeds of the crusaders is not correct. 

However, you see quite determined in seeing just faults in religion, so, without offence, I'll not try to change your mind.

Appreciate your contribution though,  and agree with some of your ideas, if not most.

9 minutes ago, Tayida said:

I fear that the character of Christ has been greatly overrated: his figure has been magnified over time, exaggerated by legend

Excuse me, but how do you know that ? Were you there with him ?

There are many things we don't know about the life of Jesus, there are a zillion theories,  for example about his journeys to India, where is regarded as an incarnation of Vishnu, the force of love and cohesion. 

Personally, i think nowadays Jesus is underrated, and if you stay around I'll explain why i think so.

36 minutes ago, Hummin said:

An everlasting individual soul you meaning and noth only an earthling? 

 

If Im going to believe something, I would rather say we are human beings living in something bigger like a cell being reproduced.

 

Google "is a cell intelligent" and "are cells self aware" if you interested.

 

 

Of course, i think i said a zillion times that even a single atom is intelligent, but how self conscious i don't know.

I also believe consciousness is eternal, thus not born but ever present. 

I one wants to be everlasting,  all he has to do, is melt his consciousness ( ego) with the higher self, ( not easy to express that in few words ), but i guess I'll need a few more lives to get there.

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3 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Your remedy is a good one.  Because everything about your remedy is positive.  Which should serve as proof that thoughts generate emotions and direct the imagination which then together all produce experience

Thanks for the kind words, but while i like most of your thoughts, i slightly disagree on this point.

While is true that thoughts create emotions, it's also true that emotions create thoughts, so we can only agree that thoughts, emotions, feelings are interconnected components of the soul.

As for imagination, i have no words to describe the wonders of such a gift, and for me it's above thoughts emotions and feelings, so to speak.

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Still, I will not say to anyone that their problems is easy to solve, even I can have said so before, but now, I will not. I know better because I know the journey everyone have to do for themselves, not how I think I know it is.

Still I'm wondering, after all those experiences, and all those contrasting feelings,  how you cannot be sure yet that we are unique, individual souls which happen to have a human body..

34 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

And if you continue to focus on smoking with intensity you'll be on your way to smoking again.  How do I know?  I've done it.  More than once

????

I think it's M.Twain who said :

" to stop smoking is the easiest thing in the world, I've done it more than 50 times ! " ????

on the depression thing, while appreciating your thoughts, I've got to agree with @Hummin, on the fact that our souls are unique, thus, what is " severe depression " for a person used to adversities,  for example, can be very different for someone who has lived a very comfortable life. And ability to react positively to an unfortunate event may depend on many factors.  And so on, if you hear what I'm saying.

my remedy? Being active,  and try to do something useful for the harmony in the world, even if just caring for a little garden, or taking care of some friend when he needs it.

26 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

And then we argue endlessly about which of all of the different fantastical visions represent true reality.

Well, apparently the true reality is that a true reality doesn't exist  ????

7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Thai brains are little used whereas farang brains have too much mileage. 

That's funny, and i had the same thought a few times.

It's interesting how culture and education can influence and shape the souls in this world, so much that sometimes it seems to be on another planet.