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Busted. Fingers in the honey pot and stuck.
The anti corruption movement leader - corrupt himself? Oh no...
Busted by PT and their convicted spokesperson?? Jacky you are sooo funny.
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Ooooooops?
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Buying land with donation money?? I thought the donations were only a fraction of the total cost of keeping these rallies going.
Doesn't make sense imo.
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Many moves yet to be played, behind the scenes, on the streets, in the media.
You've never played chess or watched Game of Thrones. Never get in your opponents way while he's busy building his own scaffold or tying the knot in his own noose. With the election the tide has shifted now in favor of the government.They have not bothered enforcing hundreds of warrants in the past on the same people. What makes you think that this will be any different?
We all know that taking out the leaders will create a meltdown of the situation.
The main reason why they have not enforced them in the first place.
uuhhh
Not really buddy. if you analyze the info that is available on the Feb 2 election you will notice that things are not going very well for PT. Very low voter turnout and a lot of No Vote.
Anyhow, let's welcome the farmers.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702315-farmers-plan-to-seize-commerce-ministry-in-bangkok/
No one's calling it check mate, just good news and another move in the government's favor...
But personally I would rather be playing the government's hand over time than their unworthy opposition.
Unless the fix is in somewhere, it's hard to see the government losing on the merits of the overwhelming need of re-establishing a functional government, resolving the farmer's issues and putting the country back on track while boxing up the bozos for political recycling. Eventually the cold hard facts have to be hitting the CC, the X factor and the dawdling EC. They've overplayed their hand and they've got nothing to offer the country except street vendors with t-shirts and whistles. Again, imho.
Unless the fix is in somewhere, it's hard to see the government losing on the merits of the overwhelming need of re-establishing a functional government, resolving the farmer's issues and putting the country back on track while boxing up the bozos for political recycling.
This government cannot solve their own problems and put the country back on track. Anyhow, the country has been of track starting shortly after Yingluck became PM.
This is MHO
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Another wealthy aristocrat against democracy. What a surprise.
It must be your form of democracy then.
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"The labour minister said he would wear moustache, sun glasses and a hat to prevent protesters from recognizing him when he would venture in disguise into the protest site together with a special police team tasked with arresting Mr Suthep."
That sounds like a lot abuse of ear medicine.
"That sounds like a lot abuse of ear medicine."
Or a sense of humour, the recognition of which seems to have passed you by. I'll wager my version is probably nearer the truth.
You are saying he is a comedian?
Or as Scamper stated:
Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Labour, head of the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order, and the czar for overseeing the emergency decree
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An ex UN employee had some good ideas concerning Thailand's problems 2 years ago but o fcourse Yingluck did nothing with it.
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for two up, rear brake is handy.
depends
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"Meanwhile, two senior officials of the Public Warehouse Organisation were interrogated by Udon Thani police yesterday concerning 34,000 sacks of rice, worth Bt80 million, which disappeared after being moved out of Udon Thani warehouse for rice mills in Lop Buri on March 5-26 last year. (MCOT online news)."34.000 sacks of rice disappeared?If a bag of rice weighs 50 kg, then 1,700 tons of rice are there disappeared.And this is only one Warehouse from 2000 in the country.May PT caretaker Chalerm should ask his son, who is in charge to take care of the rice mountain, where this amount of rice is.This is organized crime.Normally a job for PT caretaker Chalerms friend Tarrit, the DSI chief, to start an investigation.
It seems that the government has no interest in uncovering the theft of national state money.
I guess the state has lost over 200.000.000.000 (200 Billion) Baht only on corruption from this rice scheme.
What criminals have enriched themselves personally here for over 2 years?
Who has now the money?
The farmers obviously not.
But here there will be no proper investigation.
The necessary control instruments are here paralyzed, purchased and off function.
Poor Thailand in the stranglehold of organized crime.
Don't expect Tharit (DSI) to ever investigate this scam as long as Thaksin is calling the shots.
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Ms. Yingluck, you have been mentioned at The Wall Street Journal. What an honor!
Thai Effort to Control Rice Market BackfiresLuckily there are many of these articles around lately. Now the world knows what this Shin clan is all about. Surely nobody will be surprised if PT is being dissolved and Yingluck locked up in jail.
From the WSJ:
"When the payments stopped, he couldn't eat, he couldn't sleep," Ms. Thongbai said, kneeling next to his coffin. "He couldn't stop worrying about it. In the end it was just too much for him."
I wonder how Yingluck will sleep at night knowing there are people dying because of her failed policies. She has been warned over and over from everybody across the globe including the IMF, WTO and Worldbank. Yingluck didn't listen and instead kept on facilitating her brother in stealing money out of the scheme through dodgy foreign trading companies and secret G2G deals with shady African countries.
Charging her with premeditated murder would be the only right thing.
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Shameless bunch of crooks those Shins. Just unbelievable!!
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It's good news Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at Bangkok, Thailand. Long overdue putting these birds in the clink.
Round them up and out in front, the frogmarching Froggie the Whistlehead.
They have not bothered enforcing hundreds of warrants in the past on the same people. What makes you think that this will be any different?
We all know that taking out the leaders will create a meltdown of the situation.
The main reason why they have not enforced them in the first place.
You've never played chess or watched Game of Thrones. Never get in your opponents way while he's busy building his own scaffold or tying the knot in his own noose. With the election the tide has shifted now in favor of the government.
uuhhh
Not really buddy. if you analyze the info that is available on the Feb 2 election you will notice that things are not going very well for PT. Very low voter turnout and a lot of No Vote.
Anyhow, let's welcome the farmers.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702315-farmers-plan-to-seize-commerce-ministry-in-bangkok/
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http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702315-farmers-plan-to-seize-commerce-ministry-in-bangkok/
So the DSI will arrest the leaders of the farmers too? There is still a SOE in place.
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Mr. Ban should also warn the judiciary against doing the Ruling Elite's dirty work for them by mounting a judicial coup. Which is what is going to happen again unless someone stops them.
This time PT is making it very easy for the " Ruling Elites" with all the billions that are disappearing because of their self serving policies.
Yes someone should stop PT/Thaksin if they don't want to dissolved. Yes I know it might be too late.
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Did they already pay the poor farmers? If not, why doesn't this criminal that takes order from another criminal (on the run) clean up their own mess first before they start looking at others.
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... "pressure by anti-government protesters, he said."...
Yup, the protesters are to blame for the lack of money to pay the farmers. Who else?
Including the 130 BILLION that is needed to pay the farmers for the rice they already sold in total the loss after two years of rice scam is 700 BILLION BAHT.
And then all will be alright if Thai voters allow the bad guy in Dubai and his puppet regime to borrow TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED BILLION BAHT extra. Or a lot more as unforseen costs. Becauseeeeeeeeeeee with that high speed train to China heavens will open and all will end well.
So far the loss is 700 -130 billion = 570 billion. Please, please, pleaseeeeeeeeee send people to prison for that scam. Else there will be no end to large scale theft in Thailand. And here's a secret: It really are not Suthep and co that cost the country hundreds of billions.
Oh yes. Don't forget to revoke the passport of the big bad guy. And do ask Interpol to pick him up and send him home. After all, Thailand is where he wants to be. Thailand is what he is messing with. Thailand is whom he'll have to pay. Save Thailand from bankrupcy.
Mr White lies gave us figuers of 50mill tons bought for 701billion baht over the first 3 years of the scam, this did not include the latest batch of 10million tons which is going to cost something like 180billion, of which they have already paid 50billion. Clearly 50mill tons must have cost more than that as they would have been paying an average price of only 14,000 baht per ton, when the white rice is supposed to be 15,00 and Hom Mali at 20,000 at ton. The real figure must be closer to 830billion and that is without the added costs for admin and storage. To make matters worse he stated they only had 10million tons left to sell, having only made 180billion back in sales. If they only have 10mill tons left and that is sold at a similar price, for about 45billion, they will have lost in excess of 600billion baht in just 3 years. If we then assume this latest crop (10mill tons) is paid for and then sold at the same rates, that will add an additional loss of around 140billion. We are talking total loss in 3.5 years of a whopping Baht740billion or USD22billion at current exchange rates (excluding admin and storage cost). What is shocking is that the govt seems to have sold the rice at an average of just 4,500 baht per ton.
22 billion dollars ? Thats nothing much.
Have a look at EU direct farming subsidies paid out, way way higher than a paltry 22 billion dollars.
But of course, in the EU they call it "Direct Agricultural Subsidies" - just the same as the "Rice Scheme" in Thailand, where the government in effect pays more for produce than its worth so as to keep the farmers making profit.
When you stop looking at this as the PROPAGANDA people want you to look at it - as in all the money is lost and gone down the plug hole.
When you start to look at this as what it is, direct subsidies to rice growing - as in people all down the chain to and including the farmers have the money, its not lost, its just a government budget deficit, nothing more or less.
Then its all very clear..............
All the problem is now is the PDRC's backers have pressurized the banks not to fund the third harvest in order to create problems for PTP.
All in my opinion of course.
of course!
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If this had of been a private company that had bought all this
rice off the farmers THEN not paid them,I am sure the police
would have been involved by now.
regards Worgeordie
and the DSI.. Wait they are too busy kicking that Indian guy out of Thailand.
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"...if there is no law prohibiting the bank from doing just that"
I will repeat what I had posted before - Why does the govt not ask a ruling from the Constitution Court to make clear whether this act of seeking loans is legitimate or not?
Banks can then act accordingly instead of hesitating.
The government asking the court??? That would be something new. Normally they just do it if they feel like it!
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who cares about the price of rice in thailand dam_n thaivisa is getting more boring by the day what happened to updates about cool stuff not just politics and rice.
There are more topics on TV. Maybe there is one that interests you about cool stuff... If you don't care about this topic you could just stay away.
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http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pheu-thai-spokesman-gets-one-year-jailterm-without-suspension/
The guy should be in jail for many reasons
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Under what rule can the DSI freeze bank accounts , without approval from the minister responsible , who cannot act, as the Government is in caretaker mode.
I would have thought it would have required a court order to have assets frozen.
Tharit can do whatever he is told to do becaue he has full backing from Thaksin.
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The court aka the Bangkok elite. Sickening
It is sickening that some people still believe that wathever the Shin Caln does is right and all courts are controlled by the elite. It is even more sickening that it is all they can say on TV.
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Pheu Thai may pay the price at the ballot box for failure to pay farmersYet sadly their main rivals chose to boycott the election despite knowing they had a chance of winning. (Abhisit has been heard in every interview claiming they led at the polls.)
The reasons they did this are obvious and point to a complete rejection of democracy and the accountability that goes with it.
PT will win the election which is breath taking considering how much popular opinion is now against them. Shame on you "Democrats" - an oxymoron if ever I heard one, on a par with the "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea"
Abhisit's stand on the election is very clear: At this moment it will not solve any problems regardless who wins, therefor the Democrats prefer not to join without having reform!
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Suthep accused of buying land with donation money
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Exactly. Why not concentrate on selling rotten rice to pay the poor farmers before more have to commit suicide out of desperation one would think.