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Question for the troops: does anyone have a link to a color-coded map of (non-red) songthaew routes? I think I remember seeing one awhile back, but can't find it.
To OP - I agree with most everything above. Below is a particular impression.
1. Taxis don't work well here; no meters, as in BKK, even though they say "meter taxi."
2. Red songthaews are great for in and near; but you must know where you are going, and how to ask for it. Don't haggle; it's 20 B inside, and 30 B to the big "corner malls."
3. Different color songthaews can take you far out of the city for cheaply, but you have to learn the routes and terminal stops. (See request above)
4. Tuk-tuks are an overpriced, polluting menace in my opinion. But now n then, they are the only option, especially at night. Be ready to bargain (nicely and firmly).
5. Two wheeled rentals are abundant and not expensive
6. Walk! It's a great city for lots of walking. Crossing uncontrolled, streets as above: after you can make eye contact with drivers, smile a bit, walk out into the traffic with a little wave of the hand. It's "normal" here.
Question for the troops: does anyone have a link to a color-coded map of (non-red) songthaew routes? I think I remember seeing one awhile back, but can't find it.
Here you go. Info on color coded Songtaews:
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I have mostly found the song taw in Chiang Mai convenient and helpful. The tuk tuks are another story.
You just have to be a little careful with the tuk tuks. I know some tuk tuk drivers and they can be pretty down to earth people. And there are some that will attempt to scam you. If a tuk tuk driver tries to "Hard Sell" you on a tour or to take you around the city, then be wary. If it feels like a scam, it's probably a scam. The honest drivers generally are not hanging out and actively calling for customers. Find one the the ones that are just kicked back and relaxing. If your going anywhere that is within about 10 km of city center, you shouldn't be paying more than 80 to 100 baht, and in some case less. Negotiate the price before you get in. If it doesn't 'feel right', smile, say 'mai bpen rai', and find another tuk tuk. You just have to use common sense, and regardless of how the tuk tuk driver acts, be polite even if you're saying 'no'. If you find a driver you like, get his/her telephone number. And relax.
only tourists (and fools) use tuk tuks.
I use tuk tuks on occasion, and I'm neither a tourist nor a fool. They are often quicker to obtain and they can go places that songtaw drivers refuse to go, and you'll generally get to your destination faster (songtaws often have multiple passengers going to different locations. You can end up taking a 20 minute drive to get to your destination that is only 5 minutes away). Tuk tuks have there uses, especially if you're in more of a hurry, and you know exactly where you're going.
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I have mostly found the song taw in Chiang Mai convenient and helpful. The tuk tuks are another story.
You just have to be a little careful with the tuk tuks. I know some tuk tuk drivers and they can be pretty down to earth people. And there are some that will attempt to scam you. If a tuk tuk driver tries to "Hard Sell" you on a tour or to take you around the city, then be wary. If it feels like a scam, it's probably a scam. The honest drivers generally are not hanging out and actively calling for customers. Find one the the ones that are just kicked back and relaxing. If your going anywhere that is within about 10 km of city center, you shouldn't be paying more than 80 to 100 baht, and in some case less. Negotiate the price before you get in. If it doesn't 'feel right', smile, say 'mai bpen rai', and find another tuk tuk. You just have to use common sense, and regardless of how the tuk tuk driver acts, be polite even if you're saying 'no'. If you find a driver you like, get his/her telephone number. And relax.
Also, if your interested in going to Lamphun, you can walk down Loi Kroh and cross the steel bridge and turn right. All the Blue Songtaw (pickup trucks) go to Lamphun and there is a purplish-blue-white minibus (bigger than a van and not as big as a bus) that goes to central Lamphun too. I think the songtaws were 20 baht to Lamphun and the air con minibus might be 40. Very cheap for the 30 km drive into Lamphun city.
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Democracy is a word, and the concept of democracy that is generally practiced throughout the West and exported to the developing world is a illusion, a sham. About the only true democracy that can be found in the world resides in Switzerland. Representative democracies are simply tools that are manipulated by the "deepest pockets" and are used to control the population and resources.
"Democracy" in Thailand is a trigger word. It's batted around like a shuttlecock on a badminton court, and the word alone is being use simply to manipulate a segment of a rather uninformed and ignorant populace. A means to an end.-
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I lost my 20,000 baht prescription glasses in Chiang Mai the first week in January. I wish someone would show up with those
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Throw the book at 'em!!
Signed,
A teacher who has spent more than 40,000+ baht over 13+ years on work permits--not to mention, the countless hours on documentation and trips to government offices.
If I can do it, they can do it.
Personally, I appreciate that you're doing it the right way. If Thai companies would follow the laws pertaining to obtaining work permits for foreign employees, this would not be an issue.
However, the employees get the book thrown at them, while the offending employer gets a 'hand-slap'. I'd like the criminal penalties to be the same for employers who fail to process work permits for their employees. Companies have no incentive to obtain WPs. Put some teeth in the law and equally sanction the employers, and the problem will end.
So fookhaht, thanks! Leading by example.
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Can we know exactly how much money is required to resolve this "oh so terrible crime"
I surmise it will be totally ignored or dismissed relevant to the fact that the school / company / corporation did not do their part first and arrange all necessary documentation and or meet all their requirements ( first )
The foreigners will be held accountable but all the Thais involved will be free of any wrong doing or complicity and or they will BS their way out of any wrong doing while throwing the foreigners to the sharks.
Cheers
"The foreigners will be held accountable but all the Thais involved will be free of any wrong doing or complicity and or they will BS their way out of any wrong doing while throwing the foreigners to the sharks."
That's hitting the nail on the head.
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It's idiots like these that give other foreigners who are working here legally with a permit a bad name.
Immigration / BIB should be checking all the schools in Chiang Mai. I'm guess that a large percentage of NES teachers don't have WPs in both private and public schools. However, if they did that, English language programs would dry up for lack of instructors. Soooooo, a little tea money here, connections with various Thai agencies and departments there, no problems for the local schools.
Methinks immigration is picking low-hanging fruit.
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Hes probably coming over to check out a new secret cia prison just built to house the worlds most wanted.
Shhhhh! Nobody is suppose to know about the location of the "Detention Site 'Green' ". Loose lips sinks ships! Shhhhhh!
"What? It's already been reported in the NYTimes? Really? Ok."
Nevermind.
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I met a very well know monk with his own TV program, selling IPhones and IPad loaded with its teachings in its retreat, outside BK.
I was invited by a Thai family. I was the only "farang" on the Sonkrang retreat in 2011, and curiosity is my biggest "addiction"... Monks living areas shows a sing "Out of Limits", but curiosity is my biggest addiction. The Master lives in a small very modern house, others monks in wooden bungalows. Walking at the back of his house, under the carport, was a brand new Mercedes 500 4D SUV, the same kind selling in the US at that time for over $100K....
Later I saw the same car in a car expo fair in Chiang Mai selling for 9 milTHB.
That was my first experience with Buddhism in Thailand, and was kind of a surprise.... I do not live in BK, but I saw him many times on TV revered by important personalities...and big donors. I like Buddhism, and I know that always will be good and bad Masters and followers...but too much easy money is not a good adviser to anyone.
Too be honest, I don't see any difference between what you described and Christian Television Evangelists in the US Bible-belt. Talking the talk, but not walking the walk. I steer clear of both. My wife occasional tries to drag me to see some super-star monk. I've told her bluntly, I don't do super-star monks. There is just something not right about it all. I'd just prefer to head to some wat out in the boondocks in the North Thailand mountains. Someplace where you may actually experience dharma in action.
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Hopefully when he travels though Bangkok, the local BIB will stop his motorcade and offer to have him "pee in a cup" in public.
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You can pretty well assume that the only Buddhist monasteries strictly following the Vinaya, especially as it pertains to money, are those monasteries associated with forest monasteries. Individual monks within the monasteries vary. Most will accept money unless they are strictly following the Vinaya, e.g., think Wat Pha Nanachat (the Wat Pha means "forest monastery"). I know the novice monks at our local monasteries will goes to 7/11 and buy food on rainy days instead of walking their morning alms rounds. Sad. Imho, any attachments (as to money) leads to losing the essence of Theravada Buddhism. During the period of time I was ordained, any money I received I just gave to the wat where I was staying. It's about letting go of wants, desires, and attachments. Again, imho, any monk amassing wealth should disrobe. Whatever they're following, it's not Buddhism as taught by Buddha. <head shake>.
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Xenophobia is alive and well in the Land of
racial equalitySmiles.Obviously racism must be institutionalize, if not condone. No Indians. No Africans. No Japanese. And no response by the government? It must be OK to discriminate?
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My wife claims that I still listen to too much Led Zeppelin.
Does this mean there is still hope for me?
Yeah - eat lots of cilantro and start listening to Unlocking the Truth
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These guys don't have the cojones to fight one-on-one. Gotta have a weapon or a mob or both. Real men, right? Nancy-boyz methinks.
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Find another agent. We had people working into their 60s where I worked. Go private. For the kee neeow salaries they pay plus the copious loads of BS, you couldn't pay me enough to work in a Thai public school. The idiots want 'young and dumb', over age and experience. Then they wonder why their English Language programs totally blows.
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She's a nutter.
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Drugs ruin lives. They knew that.
Drug laws ruin way more lives than drugs ever did.
Educate yourself.
I never heard of anyone dying from a legal statute overdose.
Six people just died of an overdose of high-velocity lead administered via legal statute.
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It must be pretty lucrative to smuggle drugs into Indonesia if you're stupid enough to risk a capital offense. I'd suggest drug smugglers stay in the America's (North, Central, South). Might do prison time, but doubt if you'll end up full of holes (well, other than those administered by The Cartels). Interesting though -- capital punishment never seems to be any deterrent to those whom wish to gamble with their lives. So executing people is pretty much just the government indulging in sadism, at least imho. And who wants to go to Indonesia anyway? Naa bura.
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Dick Cheney out hunting ducks again?
Dang. You beat me to it. lol Still funny tho.
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It was probably Dick Cheney out pheasant hunting again.
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Slightly off topic, but think about it: If Thailand does pass "Hate Speech" laws, then the mods will be have to delete 50% of the posts from a thread like this. That's a scary thought.
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I have no problem with Moslems or any religion or political ideology - until they want to use violence, murder, and intimidation to stop free speech, force others to accept their way of life and laws and treat people of different views with contempt. Usually those that do are the biggest violators of what they preach others should do.
Charlie Hebdo cartoons are to die for.
I wonder if the Muslim population every wondered why there wasn't any blowback after the Taliban desecrated and blew up the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
I guess there are religions of peace, and religions of peace. But than again, don't get Myanmar Buddhists too riled, but that's another story.
whats the transport like in chiang mai
in Chiang Mai
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Just curious, but why so many troll posts and sarcasm about this subject. Personally I'm just trying to help the OP. Instead of pissing all over the helpful posts and the reputation of decent Thais who are just trying to make a living, try looking in the mirror and try to understand what it is that is making ya'll so bitter and nasty. Chill out and try posting something helpful, useful, and accurate instead. <head shake>