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Just sitting in a bar which has been closed down by about 30 thugs. One had a pistol, one had , what looked like from my Army days 35 years ago, an M79 grenade. It should be unstable by now.......
Things are getting worse.....
Please... Can you expound on this horrific incident??
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OTOH, I still would be interested to buy one of their cars from the liquidation, if it comes, should be cheap.
waiting for their debut myself on Ebay for a US$5 bid.
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This backtracking and U-turning occurs when the international press are involved and speaks volumes about it's ability to influence Thailand. This happens time and time again whether it's bird flu or foreigners being murdered in Kanchanaburi. Seems like when news items are exclusively covered by Thai media, T is aggressive and intolerant... but bring in BBC, Reuters, et al.... and T is humble and apologetic. It really reveals how much T is desirous of playing on the world stage. In my opinion, the best of the Thai media is The Nation Group (Newspaper AND television).
Surely you're not so naive that you think foreign news teams would have been allowed to leave the area alive if Thaksin was serious about keeping the lid on ?
An incident of that nature (the murder of an international news team) would result in the complete collapse of this government very quickly. The backlash would have T out of office within 30 days. *** to borrow one of his famous deadlines, except in this case, it REALLY would happen ***
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Hello,
I regret to say that, similiar to 7 million Thai people, I can't read Thai.
I do, however, have access to someone who is a Thai reader, so thanking you in advance for whatever material you will send to me for reading.... (assuming that's the reason for your inquiry or even that I am the "John" that you were greeting).
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I'm utterly disgusted. And that insulting crap that they died because they were weak from fasting for Ramadan. ###### off.
Disgusted.
Absolutely. Makes someone wonder how they've managed to survive at all during the many, many centuries that Ramadan has been observed.
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78 less terrorists in the world
Why complain?
Because by doing so in this manner, it only creates hundreds more that might not have otherwise become terrorists. The population of the Deep South is over 3 million. Do we really want that many terrorists?
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The most expedient solution is to round up PULO members and execute them all for sedition.
Yes, that will be just as successful as ending drug use by summarily murdering drug people (or were they drug dealers?) at will..... or ending bird flu by slaughtering millions of chickens. Simple-minded people come up with simple solutions, be they T or ???.
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Besides the fact that the government might have had a right to detain certain people in this case - I can't judge that - it is a fact that after they detain someone they are 100% responsible for their well being after that. No one is guilty unless convicted, so far they were just suspects. Or does this work different in Thailand?
In this case the authorities have grossly neglected their duty to protect their detaineees from any harm and so this is in my opinion a clear case of (may be unwillingly) manslaughter, punishable by law in most countries, also in Thailand I guess.
A Very valid point, Sangsom. The authorities ARE responsible and that responsibility should be taken all the way to the top of the government. When the authorities shirk this obvious responsibility, it angers even the moderates and passives in the community and legitimizes the extremists' words.
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Thanks Guran, that sums it up so simply.
Islamic extremists throughout the world don't want anything short of the total destruction of anyone who doesn't share their fanatical beliefs.
Give them an inch, and they will take a mile! We should all back the Thai people in their attempt to stop this evil movement.
Guran's post actually summed up why the Gestapo tactics of T will only serve to aggrevate the situation. It brings these extinct groups out of dormancy, thus making the entire nation unsafe.
The evil movement is the government.
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Update:
Thaksin admits mistakes over Muslim deaths
BANGKOK, Oct 27 (Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said on Wednesday security forces had made mistakes in their handling of a Muslim riot and voiced regret at the loss of nearly 80 lives in military custody.
"I can say that the government resorted to gentle measures and did not use force in suppressing the protesters. But mistakes happened during the transfer of the arrested people to trucks," Thaksin told parliament.
The comments were his first since officials said late on Tuesday that 78 male protesters had died of suffocation on Monday while being transported to a detention centre at a military barracks in Thailand's restive, predominantly Muslim south.
"I regret the loss of lives in a way that should not have happened, due to suffocation. I will order a committee to be set up to investigate the situation," Thaksin said.
--Reuters- 2004-10-27
This backtracking and U-turning occurs when the international press are involved and speaks volumes about it's ability to influence Thailand. This happens time and time again whether it's bird flu or foreigners being murdered in Kanchanaburi. Seems like when news items are exclusively covered by Thai media, T is aggressive and intolerant... but bring in BBC, Reuters, et al.... and T is humble and apologetic. It really reveals how much T is desirous of playing on the world stage. In my opinion, the best of the Thai media is The Nation Group (Newspaper AND television).
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Now for some REAL news regarding bird flu:
Dateline: Tuesday October 26, 10:16 AM
BANGKOK (AFX) - Deputy health minister Suchai Charoenrattanakul said the government is no longer concerned over the spread of the bird flu virus in Thailand.
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SAY WHA??????? Oh sorry, bird flu is over with, right Suchai?
Maybe he means they no longer care about it!
Yes, that's the likely real meaning. It's a shame really, but I understand with all the worldly attention shifting to the Southern massacre, the government can only focus on one disaster at a time.
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I just hope they don't take any of the protestors off in military trucks. Be careful and good luck to all.
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Sheri The Troll is now Stan The Troll.
Try to more inventive next time....
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Now for some REAL news regarding bird flu:
Dateline: Tuesday October 26, 10:16 AM
BANGKOK (AFX) - Deputy health minister Suchai Charoenrattanakul said the government is no longer concerned over the spread of the bird flu virus in Thailand.
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SAY WHA??????? Oh sorry, bird flu is over with, right Suchai?
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Before you all rush out to your Colloidal Silver Generator salesman (I think there's one at the end of my soi), you'd better read other peoples' opinions:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelate...s/silverad.html
Thank you for that info, RDN.
I guess the real bottom line is as follows from that site:
In October 1996, the FDA proposed to ban the use of colloidal silver or silver salts in over-the-counter products. A Final Rule banning such use was issued on August 17, 1999 and became effective September 16th.
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The Islamic Society of South Thailand (ISST)Secretary-General Abd Allah Muin al-Din said, "But the days when Thai Muslims were demanding independence or unification with Malaysia have gone - a message that does not seem to have reached Bangkok."
"At a grassroots level, all the Islamic movements I am in touch with crave stability, peace and calm - but with justice."
Muin al-Din believes that one of the many reasons for the instability in the south is the lack of government support or dialogue - a reality that has lead the Muslim minority to feel peace can never be achieved.
"Even before the latest electoral campaign, the prime minister was too busy to handle serious life-and-death issues that affect us.
"This has not changed since the elections and is detrimental to the region. We need the authorities to concentrate on matters of urgency," he said.
"They must recognise our language, culture and ethnicity and deal with the fact that the south is poorer than much of the rest of the country."
He says until such a time as discrimination in the workplace ends and there are genuine opportunities for education and business, not much is going to change.
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About 1,300 protesters were arrested and sent to detention at a military camp in the neighbouring province of Pattani. The military camp is about 120 kilometres away from the protest site. It took between five and six hours for the trucks to arrive at the military camp in Pattani. A military source said the trucks arrived at the camp at about 1am yesterday.
"We didn't find any dead bodies with broken arms or legs, but between two or three of them had broken necks which may have been caused from the transportation," Pornthip Rojansunan said.
But Pornthip did not rule out the possibility that the suffocation could have been caused by another party blocking the nostrils and mouths of the protesters to prevent them from breathing.
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I'm very familiar with military trucks and I know they certainly can travel faster than 20k/hr, (120k/6 hours), especially in the middle of the night with little traffic.
But then again, if people are going to suffer broken necks while riding in the back of a truck, they must have some huge potholes there.
Usually, it's extremely difficult to breathe when your nostrils and mouth are being blocked.... (by a soldier's hand?)
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Islam is strictly a monotheistic faith. There is only one God (Allah), and at the core of Islam stands the Five Pillars:
1. The Attestation of Faith; There is no God, but Allah, and Muhammad is His messenger.
If only they would be a bit more tolerant of other faiths, maybe they would live in harmony with them. But if they are taught "there is only one god", what can we expect? Zero tolerance from them for us.
Christianity has the same precept, yes? With the insertion of J.C. in place of Muhammad.
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Well guess those down South will think twice about rioting now
Actually, the exact opposite reaction is most likely. Brutal violence begets violence.
"I am concerned that the incident yesterday will escalate the tension in the south, some groups may try to do something about taking revenge," Abdul Rahman Abdul Samed, the top Muslim official in Narathiwat, told AFP.
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the Thai Govt and they are handling it with an iron fist!
If history is to be considered, that type of response during previous Thai military leaderships is not successful and those policies fail. Violent brutality will always spawn a yearning for freedom and historically people world-wide have acted on those yearnings. Perhaps if the government could open a truely meaningful dialogue and not just try to quiet the Muslims by throwing empty populist policies and money at the problem. By doing so, they reflect their lack of understanding about what the issues are. I seriously doubt that the current administration is capable of doing and that is why, in this long-standing issue, the level of activity has increased since January.
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An Australian man fell to his death from the 22nd floor
His body hit the apartment block’s perimeter fence and was cut in two
that's NOT the way to go...
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Saw film footage this afternoon on a non-Thai news channel and it showed police rifle butting unarmed, non-fighting people who had surrendered and violently kicking and stomping people who were already facedown on the ground. Showed very brutal treatment that seemed very much overdone.
This makes it sound like they were innocent bystanders. If they were innocent they would have not been there. Maybe they became non-fighting after they realized they were going to lose they fight. Brutal treatment seems to be appropriate, it takes the fight out of them.
Can't agree that physical brutality will ever bring a resolution to the South. Any place that is ruled by absolute enforced submission has always been doomed to failure sooner or later.
The participants were certainly not innocent, but the response seemed quite out of proportion to their actions. They had indeed surrendered. At what point of submission can you not expect to have your head kicked? Similiar in many regards to the storming and massacre at the Mosque earlier this year. Although, the response was even more extreme this time around given that the protestors didn't have firearms, as in the Mosque incident. It reminded me of the Kent State University killings in the USA in the 1960's.
IMO, it's a matter of leadership failure. You can't get people to do your bidding endlessly at the end of a barrel.
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I am suspecting Sheri has one leg only.
But she compensates for that with a scruffy beard.
that is accompanied by a bitter personality
and supplemented by a hostile nature.
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Phnom Penh *IS* a nightmare.
Please check out my recent experiences.
Search this forum by "Phnom Penh".
JaroenVan
This is the link:
"Warning! Beware Of Phnom Penh!, Visas not granted despite perfect papers"
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18910&st=0
Certainly not the friendliest embassy in the world.
American Election Day
in General Topics
Posted
From: "American Citizen Services - Bangkok"
Ambassador Darryl N. Johnson invites all Americans in Thailand to:
Election Watch 2004
Wednesday, Nov. 3 from 7:00 am-2:00 pm
at the J.W. Marriott Ballrooms A-C.
Sukhumvit Rd
We will have:
Mock Voting
Live TV Coverage from the US
Continuous Internet Updates
A Special Interactive Discussion with Thai-language VOA broadcasters
and US political analyst Dr. James Thurber
Opportunities to Discuss the Election with Embassy Officers
Light Refreshments
Come See Who Wins!