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It's true, I used to be a pizza delivery guy in the States before I became an English teacher in Bangkok.

Can we go back to the topic now?

Personally if your driving fast and are looking down at the tach (RPM) gauge than I don't consider you understand what the gauges are meant for. You don't need to know what the tach is saying when driving fast and shifting all the time or going through traffic, you shift based on feel and listening to the sound of the engine. I rarely look at the gauges except to ensure what my speed is which I might add is the biggest number on the guage stack, tach I don't care I drive it, the gauges are secondary. If you are always look at your gauges this means your not looking at the road glancing all the time at your gauges could cause you an accident because your not focused on the road your splitting your time between road and tach increasing your chance of an accident, they are for information but not intended to be monitored constantly in regards to how your driving between shifting gears. Best time to look at your gauges is when your cruising along at a constant speed and not between shifting gears driving through heavy traffic dodging cars.

That's a silly post, if experts never look at the revs then why do MotoGP riders have flashing lights for when to change gear? And knowing what revs you are at for corning is very important, sure if you have chicken strips everywhere and just cruise around on the bike, you can listen to the bike and change gear at 6,000 or 7,000 rpm. But if you like to go fast and want to have a NEW bike under complete, then glancing at revs the on the bike is very important.

And for me, when I think sports bikes I think a flashy rev counter up to 14,000 rpm and digital speedo, not building blocks on a fancy digital speed. Too much like a F1 video game .... This and the forced ABS and the 9k rev limit i making think about waiting for Yamaha to bring FZ6R to TH or wait for a 2nd hand import. Ninaja 650 looks hiddious as well, so it's FZ6R or CBR 500 or a 2nd hand 600RR again but I don't want to go the 600cc superbike route again as commuting through bkk traffic sucks. And it's too tempting to dump the clutch at the lights and crush some "dek wan" reving pink honda fino's at the lights.

I just have to say this! Don't even think about commuting through traffic with the 500 series!

its way to big!!

I have a honda 110cc scooter for that purpose and its the best you can use for bkk traffic, just throttle and brake! Eyes on traffic and always glancing at the mirrors often.

I only use the little beast (500cbr r) for night riding in bkk and for long trips out of bkk.

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I commute every day on my 500 and it goes real smooth.

Because of its smaller size it can cut through traffic like a knife through butter.

Just came back from the track day at Bonanza circuit organised by Honda Big Wing.

Was hoping to see some of you there, but I figured you guys couldn't leave the comfort of your keyboard.

I got a question for you guys!!

How long did you wait for the registration book and number plate?

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4 months and still waiting. But i am waiting for a special number so that is why it takes long time i guess.

Anyway, i am ok as they cannot take a photo of my license plate!

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After 7 weeks of waiting I went to Big Wing and demanded my plate.

They immediately got round to it and 2 days later I had my plate and green book.

Yours is probably ready already too, just go there and ask about it. Looks like they are too lazy occupied to call their customers.

Legally you can only ride without a plate for 30 days. As soon as I told them they would be paying the fine, they got round to it pretty quickly.

I was just wathing this video

and the gey posted comment he got one for 6000 USD, is that for real???

How can it be cheaper in USA than in Thailand?

This is the non-ABS version.

Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary.

And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +??

My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht.

The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too.

300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so.

I went to Pirelli the other day and I had to pay a service charge of 600 baht for a 20 minute job.

If you want quality and western standards, you will pay for it.

But I don't mind paying it here, as back home it will cost more than double.

Pirelli! Tell us ur setup and please also some feedback about your tires!

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Haven't changed the tires yet. The front valve was f*cked and they replaced it with one of these bent shiny valves. Looks pretty neat.

Still don't know how it happened.

Will change to Pirellis when the Dunlops are worn out.

Will probably go for the Angel ST's, best choice for the kind of riding I do.

My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht.

The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too.

300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so.

Read my post a bit more carefully - the charge ONLY for shims was 800 baht. For about one hours work. And no, before you ask, I don't work for 800 baht an hour either. But neither do mechanics in Thailand - they are lucky to get 150 an hour, so the price is mostly unearned profit for the dealer. Compare this approach to the service charges for my CBR250 at a non-BigWing Honda dealer - I pay only for oil and parts - labour costs for service charges were built into the profit margin. I think that the BigWings are being a bit Greedy. And I have been told by Japanese friends that the Thai made CB500 in Japan costs ONLY for oil and parts, no extra labour charges for first service, including shim adjustment.

The shims don't cost that much. I'll check my invoice later, but I remember they are less than 100 baht each.

Back to the shim question. Just had the 1000 km service. Cost over 2000 baht, including 800 baht for shims. As the shims themselves cost FA, them this is labour cost of 800 baht for about one or two hours work at most. A bit steep. And they replaced 5 shims, so it looks like the check was necessary.

And I don't get why the synthetic oil they suggest is so expensive, nor why it is used so early in life of the engine. I thought synthetics are best used after engine is well bedded in - say 5000 km +??

My 1000 km service cost 1923 baht.

The labour cost is for 3 hours of labour, not only for replacing the shims, but the other things they do too.

300 baht per hour ain't that much. Do you want to work for 300 baht per hour? Didn't think so.

I went to Pirelli the other day and I had to pay a service charge of 600 baht for a 20 minute job.

If you want quality and western standards, you will pay for it.

But I don't mind paying it here, as back home it will cost more than double.

True.

Easy to criticize the bike but what NEW alternatives are there for the 4 cylinder Benelli here in Thailand.

Can somebody make a list of NEW 4 inline bikes available here (with the prices) . Grey imports included.

nobody so far

I guess nobody reports to you. You know the websites you can make the list yourself if you want to state the obvious. Of course the quality new bikes will be a lot more expensive.

To consider a 'Benelli' 600 an alternative to something like a S1000RR is like considering a Proton Savvy an alternative to a Porsche 911.

i am not saying that a Benelli could be an alternative for a bike like that, even suggesting that would be nonsense....

Ok, let me rephrase the question, If someone wants to buy a NEW inline 4 bike in Thailand on a small budget, what are his (or her) options ?

If you have a small budget, you shouldn't be looking at big bikes.

Will this come to Thailand?

Honda CB Trigger (150 cc)

Go to tarad Poon Sup in Pathum Thani, those guys can make you any sticker you want and it is very cheap.

Tarad market? Poon sup is the name of market?

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Google maps coordinates of tarad Poon Sup 14.005053,100.55872

Make sure to bring someone with you who speaks Thai, because nobody there speaks English.

I did a home made mod today! Removed the pillion hand grip at the rear and placed white plastics to cover the wholes after. This is just temporarly as I want to install the race seat that totally removes the pillion seat and replaces with a nice rounded white plastics. But in the meantime this is what I got I think it looks so much better without the hand grips at the rear. Looks like a scooter setup with those on. Let me know what you guys think!

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Personally I think the handgrips look quite nice on the 500. They look like mean devil horns.

Go to tarad Poon Sup in Pathum Thani, those guys can make you any sticker you want and it is very cheap.

Has anyone ever heard of the brand Utika?

They seem to be based in Pakistan, jackets are sold at Ninja Shop.

http://www.utika.com.pk/default.asp

Yep. That looks like good work. Nice welds too. How much was it mania?

I believe the full system for the N250 was 16900 baht

PS:

Here is their FB page

The guy seems nice & was easy to talk with when I asked

a few Q's awhile back

https://www.facebook.com/Aliasnolimits?hc_location=stream

PSS: I see they have You tube clips of the 500 with their

slip on & both with & without the DB killer in

Seems they do not have the full system yet?

But looks like they are coming soon.

The Corse exhaust will be a full system later. They are dyno testing the full system now and it will be ready in a month or two.

The exhaust as it is now costs 13,000 baht.

I know the guy on the 500 in the pictures.

If you can't afford the maintenance, don't buy the bike.

Funny how you talk trash about a bike and 2 weeks later you actually buy it.

This might come as a surprise to you, but the origin of pizza is actually Italian.

No, the origin of pizza is pan- Mediterranean.

The double "Z" in this word is pronounced "tz" as in Vizzavonna " Vitzavonna" in some regions and "T" in others.

Pita, pitza, pizza = a flat peasant bread round, covered in tomato sauce, cheese, olives, onions, even eggs, ground meat, sausage etc, or practically any regional preserves like *just about anything". It's laid down in an oven from which it is pulled when its ready.

We all know about that.

Each Mediterranean region has its specific name for this ageless assembly of whatever is around the house but to suggest that pizza is uniquely Italian makes no sense at all.

Pizza ? Italian ?

Frankfurter, Hamburger, American?

Hey, fuggeddaboudit.

Well, mister Google, the pizza as we know it has its origins in Naples (Napoli in Italian) which is a city and region in Italy, hence the origin is Italian.

It would be nice if you could come to the forum just once with good news. Anything would do. You've found the cure for cancer, you've discovered how to make an engine run on something unknown, or even hey folks I've just discovered this amazing pizza place.....

I would be really happy if I heard about a good pizza place, everything in Thailand is made for Thai tastes. There is even a pizza place at the Asok/Sukhumvit BTS/MRT entrance that is owned by an Italian, it is okay but it is not American pizza. I would kill for an American pizza.

Here's a bit of good news ... were all gonna get laid! Even if some of us have to pay for it! Well lets face it, we all pay for it one way or another.

This might come as a surprise to you, but the origin of pizza is actually Italian.

For a CBR250 you can go to any Honda dealer, except Big Wing.

The bikes were actually developed for Europe and it's new licencing laws. Thailand sales or Kawasaki aren't a factor in the design of the bike.

That's correct, it might have little influence from Thai market or Kawasaki in thailand.

for example, in Japan the exact same 3 bikes are with a reduced engine of 399cc: the CB400R/F/X.

Thai market is very small in the 500cc up, also because Thai highways are not allowed bikes. according to police bikes can't even ride on the 3rd fast lane.

These bikes are mostly for export, specially Europe, Australia and America.

Lot of things in Thailand aganist the law but very little enforcement, Ihave ridden in the fast lane on my PCX noproblem until the big SUV comes barreling down my neckat 150 or so

well, yeah ride on the fast lane quite a lot... only that when there are police checkpoints they ALWAYS stop me and make me pay 400Baht for driving on 3rd lane, I only give 100 since I only keep 1 100baht note exactly for this reason... happened like 5 times already. f***ers.

happens only in bangkok thou.

Learn to talk your way out of it.

Ask them for a valid reason why you cannot ride there, because in all truth, it is the safest lane.

Works for me, never have to pay.

I was as honda and saw the new 2013 CBR 150R all three colors look amazing IMO. ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1366514260.565377.jpgImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1366514274.421740.jpgImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1366514308.934579.jpg

What do you guys think of the new CBR 150R?

I don't see any differences.

There is only one bike licence in Thailand that I know of so you can ride any size of bike when you get it.

True, there is only 1 bike licence, I hope they change this at some point, with readily available 250s, 500s, er6ns, monsters etc at good prices there are way too many inexperienced riders on the roads with too much power between their legs - honda and co should provide rider training with the new 500 range.

Honda Big Wing actually does this, check their website and Facebook page for more details.

This is the only information you need, official website of the department of land transportation

http://www.dlt.go.th/th/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3470:in-case-of-foreigner&catid=131:2011-09-08-02-09-23&Itemid=88

I don't feel any vibrations, apart from what is normal, if you talk about vibrations, it makes me think of an old VW engine, those things vibrate, the 500 just makes normal motions coming from a working engine.

The sliders on the CBR version are only good if your legs aren't too long. My friend has the ones from RSV fitted and I only have like 2 centimeters left between my knee and the slider. I am only 175 cm tall.

On the 500F they are placed better because they use different holes to screw them in. They are a bit lower and further away from your legs.

Can't use these holes for the CBR because of the fairing blocking them.

And if you want a service at Big Wing, don't forget to make an appointment first.

thanks for the info appreciate it alot! and i checked an online manual of about how to check the oil level so i got that part now! just gonna wait until tomorrow morning and i will go and have a look. i doubt there is not sufficient oil though.

do you or anyone else know how much it will cost for the first 1000km service? they will only change oil and filter right? besides the safety checks they will do ofcourse.

and what about synthetic oil? is it better to wait for that abit further? thx for reply!

i cant wait to get a full system racing exhaust and put some nice mods on it!

The first service cost me 1923 baht.