Australian Arrested at Bangkok Airport Over Pattaya Murder

4 minutes ago, JerryM said:

I've made a few posts on that issue with both +/- notices.

But, compensation from whom?

That's up to the courts.

It's a known fact that Aussies are the wealthiest people on the planet, surely, after his apology some compensation is applicable

4 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I don't like the video on holding hands , it's dirty ,,and I carry hand sanitizer with me at all times

It must be awful having to hold that filthy mop handle at work.

A few germs never hurt anyone.

Poor girl would have been riddled after holding that creatures hand

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

That's up to the courts.

Compensation is a civil matter. The most immediate place to look is here in Thailand.

Thailand civil Code 420 - Negligence

2 hours ago, impulse said:

If she came after him with a knife (as someone stated above), that could be his blood. In fact, his case would be improved immensely if it was his blood, and if he had a stab wound or 2.

He didn't have any stab wounds.

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Well it's Alleged ...they he hired sexual services , so for that it's 18

Not for streetwalkers, it isn't.

A clip with the suspect

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17wYb2UHgp/

2 hours ago, impulse said:

From the update posted by Georgealbert

Daily News reported that the Pattaya Provincial Court issued an arrest warrant, before the body was found, charging Mr Carman with abducting a minor under the age of 18 from the custody of her parents or guardian for indecent purposes.

It sure sounds like she was underage.

In isolation, she wasn't underage for sexual consent which is what I was referencing in relation to posts that made the same reference.

1 hour ago, cynic1 said:

I hope he gets the death sentence in Thailand and a massive fine for the girls family back home where she most likely supported them

He will not get the death sentence but, even if he did, it would not be carried out and fines imposed for crimes are not paid to the victims families.

1 hour ago, Rockyroad said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What do you reckon she was underage for?

Can't work in a bar or sell sexual services as a minor

He didn't get her from a bar!

1 hour ago, mushroomdave said:

Enjoy your new steady diet of fish head soup you idiot!

Why is there always one person who comes up with that false, hackneyed comment?

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's not what was reported, that's your version of what was actually said.

No,

Actually, it isn't.

There are conflicting reports from different news streams, as I have pointed out in an earlier post.

None of them are my opinions, I don't have an opinion, apart from taking a life for such a ridiculously small amount is crazy,

23 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

In isolation, she wasn't underage for sexual consent which is what I was referencing in relation to posts that made the same reference.

They are still under their parent's authority and jurisdiction until they reach 18 years of age.

10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

lucky hes not a yank, he would be facing extradition and death.

10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

lucky hes not a yank, he would be facing extradition and death.

The crime was committed in Thailand. He will be tried, convicted (evidence looks overwhelming) and punished in Thailand. ABC Australia is showing his face.

5 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's not what was reported, that's your version of what was actually said.

No,

Actually, it isn't

Actually, it is. Which article mentioned the BJ that you referenced?

1 hour ago, mushroomdave said:

Enjoy your new steady diet of fish head soup you idiot!

Where do you get your information from regarding prison diets and meals served?

Because they certainly do not give out fish heads soup, that's an urban myth.

13 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

They are still under their parent's authority and jurisdiction until they reach 18 years of age.

Yes, I know that but she's also over the age of consent for sexual activity which is what I, and the posters to whom I replied, were referencing

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, it is. Which article mentioned the BJ that you referenced?

I don't recall referencing any article on BJ's?

If I did, it may have been answering other posters, I can't remember.

2 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, it is. Which article mentioned the BJ that you referenced?

I don't recall referencing any article on BJ's

If I got you mixed up with another poster who did mention BJ's, you have my apologies but I'm not going back through nine pages looking to check which one it was.

@Liverpool Lou

I agree, I'm not trolling through the posts either, but this is what I have found.

Here's how the main sources compare.

Where the differences come from

The most detailed version appears in the Thai-language report by Thairath. It states that after arriving at the condominium:

• the girl received a telephone call;

• she told the suspect she could not stay because she was menstruating;

• she asked to leave;

• she requested 500 baht as compensation for her time;

• while he was reaching for the money, she allegedly asked for more than 500 baht;

• the argument then escalated.

The English-language Thairath article is shorter. It mentions the phone call, wanting to leave, requesting 500 baht, and later demanding more money, but omits the reference to menstruation.

The Khaosod English report is even more condensed. It says:

• she received a phone call;

• she wanted to leave;

• she requested 500 baht;

• she then demanded more money;

• an argument followed.

It also omits any mention of menstruation.

Does this mean the reports contradict each other?

Not necessarily.

At present, the available reports suggest that the menstruation statement and the request for more money are not mutually exclusive. The fuller version is:

1. She received a phone call.

2. She said she wanted to leave.

3. She said she was menstruating.

4. She asked for 500 baht for her time.

5. She then allegedly requested a higher amount.

6. An argument followed.

The shorter English reports appear to have condensed the suspect's statement, leaving out the menstruation detail rather than contradicting it.

One important point

Every one of these details comes from the suspect's account during police questioning, not from an independent witness or police finding. Investigators have confirmed CCTV evidence placing the suspect with the victim and transporting the suitcase, but the sequence inside the condominium, including the phone call, menstruation, request for money, alleged knife, and self-defence claim, has not been independently verified in the public reporting so far.

Not guilty your honor. Fake AI footage.

He shopped well.

Not many will fit in a suicase.

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, she wasn't - if you're referring to the age for sexual consent.

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, which disallows any sexual contact with prostitutes under the age of 18, is widely interpreted by some local authorities to cover sexual acts classed as "obscenity for personal gratification". The Penal Code Amendment Act of 1997 (Section 283 bis) implies this to be within the context of sexual trafficking.

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

The white complexion is common with beach road and WS LBs so still possible

7 hours ago, wavodavo said:

That wouldn't happen at the Nana hotel in Bangkok because near the lift doors a security guard has a set up and takes the I.D. card of all visiting females that are with a guest and when she returns the guard rings the room and asks if everything o.k. If ir is she gets her I.D. back and goes on her way.

Doesn't happen all the time. In fact I have never been called after a guest has left my room at Nana Hotel. I have at a hotel in Soi7/1 but not on every occassion.

3 hours ago, Sully_ said:

not that I know of but being the detective you are I'm sure you could find out without asking me.

I've made no comment about his guilt etc nor will I, you were the one who criticised members for saying what their thoughts were about this case.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

mushroomdave said:

Enjoy your new steady diet of fish head soup you idiot!

Why is there always one person who comes up with that false, hackneyed comment?

Why is there always one person with no sense of humor always commenting on comments they don't get?

RIP, young lady! 💔

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

The crime was committed in Thailand. He will be tried, convicted (evidence looks overwhelming) and punished in Thailand. ABC Australia is showing his face.

No tatts - shock

Ballarat - bogan land

Newsreader says Patieya

46 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

@Liverpool Lou

I agree, I'm not trolling through the posts either, but this is what I have found.

Here's how the main sources compare.

Claim	Thairath (Thai)	Thairath English	Khaosod English
She received a phone call	✔ Yes	✔ Yes	✔ Yes
She said she wanted to leave	✔ Yes	✔ Yes	✔ Yes
She said she was menstruating	✔ Yes	Not mentioned	Not mentioned
She asked for 500 baht "compensation"/time	✔ Yes	✔ Yes	✔ Yes
She later demanded more money	✔ Yes	Implied	✔ Yes
Argument followed	✔ Yes	✔ Yes	✔ Yes
Suspect claims she produced a knife	✔ Yes	✔ Yes	✔ Yes
Suspect claims he acted in self-defence	✔ Yes	✔ Yes	✔ Yes

Where the differences come from

The most detailed version appears in the Thai-language report by Thairath. It states that after arriving at the condominium:

• the girl received a telephone call;

• she told the suspect she could not stay because she was menstruating;

• she asked to leave;

• she requested 500 baht as compensation for her time;

• while he was reaching for the money, she allegedly asked for more than 500 baht;

• the argument then escalated.

The English-language Thairath article is shorter. It mentions the phone call, wanting to leave, requesting 500 baht, and later demanding more money, but omits the reference to menstruation.

The Khaosod English report is even more condensed. It says:

• she received a phone call;

• she wanted to leave;

• she requested 500 baht;

• she then demanded more money;

• an argument followed.

It also omits any mention of menstruation.

Does this mean the reports contradict each other?

Not necessarily.

At present, the available reports suggest that the menstruation statement and the request for more money are not mutually exclusive. The fuller version is:

1. She received a phone call.

2. She said she wanted to leave.

3. She said she was menstruating.

4. She asked for 500 baht for her time.

5. She then allegedly requested a higher amount.

6. An argument followed.

The shorter English reports appear to have condensed the suspect's statement, leaving out the menstruation detail rather than contradicting it.

One important point

Every one of these details comes from the suspect's account during police questioning, not from an independent witness or police finding. Investigators have confirmed CCTV evidence placing the suspect with the victim and transporting the suitcase, but the sequence inside the condominium, including the phone call, menstruation, request for money, alleged knife, and self-defence claim, has not been independently verified in the public reporting so far.

I wonder if the autopsy will show any menstruation, and the phone records show a call.

Usually, when a call comes in, it's, "I have to go, my sister have motorbike accident, and by the way, it's still the long time price we agreed upon."

At such a young age, she's no doubt been told such scams work on foreigners. Of course, no justification for murder, but things can get out of hand, very quickly.

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'm wondering if he's a bit simple, just the way he looks and the way he walks, it escalated out of control quickly, a simple person might struggle in that situation

check the reels from the welcome inn - this is why I posted the screen shots. Deffa's a bit simple

12 hours ago, baansgr said:

Not a day seems to go by without a foreigner doing something, past 3 years the demographics have changed...blame it on DTV, free visa, weed or a combination of all, Thailand really needs to take a long hard look at who they are letting into the country.

Impossible to see in advance if somebody will commit a murder, if they have no antecedents in violent crimes.