Couple Killed in Police Pickup Crash in Nonthaburi

This is a very unfortunate incident with a tragic outcome.

Whatever the final findings, the key issues must be transparency and accountability. When a police vehicle is involved in a fatal crash, surely most Westerners would expect an open, independently verifiable investigation.

Thais may be more accustomed to accepting the police narrative, but that doesn’t lessen the need for the police to demonstrate impartial handling of the investigation rather than simply assert it.

7 hours ago, Jim Waldron said:

When a police vehicle is involved in a fatal crash, surely most Westerners would expect an open, independently verifiable investigation

Which are the "independently verifiable organisations" in the West that investigate accidents involving police vehicles? I'm pretty sure you'll find it's the police.

Which are the "independently verifiable organisations" in the West that investigate accidents involving police vehicles? I'm pretty sure you'll find it's the police.

You have city cops, county sheriffs, state cops and the FBI in the USA.

1 minute ago, impulse said:

minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Which are the "independently verifiable organisations" in the West that investigate accidents involving police vehicles? I'm pretty sure you'll find it's the police.

You have city cops, county sheriffs, state cops and the FBI in the USA

Oh yes, sure, other cops investigating incidences involving their mates, that's so completely independent! And the FBI investigating accidents such as this one, I don't think so. I was thinking that you could come up with some independent investigative organisations.

9 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

At that moment, the victims’ motorcycle reportedly attempted to undertake on the left side and collided heavily with the pickup truck’s left wing mirror

Undertaking kills, Thai and falang alike, why do Thai and falang keep on doing it???

29 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Which are the "independently verifiable organisations" in the West that investigate accidents involving police vehicles? I'm pretty sure you'll find it's the police.

In Australia, police-involved traffic accidents are independently investigated by specialized internal oversight bodies (such as Ethical Standards Commands or the Crime and Corruption Commission), and overseen by the respective state or territory Coroner, depending on the severity of the incident.

I'm pretty sure, you already know that in the UK, when a police vehicle is involved in a serious collision, the incident is split into a forensic investigation of the crash itself and an independent inquiry into the actions of the police officers involved.

As for Europe, EU member states are bound by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which means they must follow a strict legal standard. Any serious injury or death caused by a state agent (including police driving) must be investigated independently, transparently, and promptly.

Regardless of whether it's police that do the investigation or not, the key word for you is "independent"!

49 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Which are the "independently verifiable organisations" in the West that investigate accidents involving police vehicles? I'm pretty sure you'll find it's the police.

11 minutes ago, Jim Waldron said:

In Australia, police-involved traffic accidents are independently investigated by specialized internal oversight bodies (such as Ethical Standards Commands or the Crime and Corruption Commission), and overseen by the respective state or territory Coroner, depending on the severity of the incident.

I'm pretty sure, you already know that in the UK, when a police vehicle is involved in a serious collision, the incident is split into a forensic investigation of the crash itself and an independent inquiry into the actions of the police officers involved.

As for Europe, EU member states are bound by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which means they must follow a strict legal standard. Any serious injury or death caused by a state agent (including police driving) must be investigated independently, transparently, and promptly.

Regardless of whether it's police that do the investigation or not, the key word for you is "independent"!

In Texas, outside city limits, it's the DPS, Texas Department of Public Safety, state wide police. Unless it's in city limits, where a specialized unit does the investigation. They will sometimes call on the DPS to do an independent follow up.Other states will also have their Highway patrol, who operate statewide also, investigating outside the city limits.