German Tourist Seeks Help in Pattaya

1 minute ago, novacova said:

Perhaps his mental wellbeing should have been measured before boarding the aircraft and entering the country.

The operative word here, poor. He should have stayed home.

You don't understand his situation and the state he's in at present unfortunately.

He could be millionaire even.

So, poor yes, but only describing his mental health.

9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

He had his wallet and credit cards stolen. I’m sorry, that’s not life threatening.

Where is his passport, suitcase and return flight ticket?

How has he maintained such a high level of personal grooming?

Why hasn’t he gone to the police? Isn’t that the first thing one thinks of when something is stolen?

Maybe he has mental issues. But somehow he managed to book a holiday in Thailand and travel here seemingly by himself.

The story as written suggests that he is incapable of the simplest of tasks.

No,

You don't understand.

Here an example for you. It might help: do you think a dement or from Alzheimer suffering person would be able to find the right way home or take the right bus when far away? Or able to call someone or find a police station or ask someone the right questions??

It's only an example. This guy is captured in his own present world. His thoughts are circling. And evidently he did not find his way back, back to society, back to friends, back to help.

In this emotional, psychological stress he needed a helping hand. He got it🙏

Just now, newbee2022 said:

You don't understand his situation and the state he's in at present unfortunately.

He could be millionaire even.

So, poor yes, but only describing his mental health.

No,

You don't understand.

Here an example for you. It might help: do you think a dement or from Alzheimer suffering person would be able to find the right way home or take the right bus when far away? Or able to call someone or find a police station or ask someone the right questions??

It's only an example. This guy is captured in his own present world. His thoughts are circling. And evidently he did not find his way back, back to society, back to friends, back to help.

In this emotional, psychological stress he needed a helping hand. He got it🙏

My question is, how do you know that? You’ve constructed this whole narrative in your mind and state it as though it is fact. Maybe it is. But you don’t know that. How could you unless you are a psychologist and have personally treated this guy?

All “we” know is what is written and a single photograph. Your hypothesis may be correct, but you don’t know that it is.

Based on evidence which consists of a single photograph, I personally seriously doubt that you are correct. But I am open minded enough to recognise that your hypothesis is still a possibility.

I don’t really understand why you think there is only one conclusion that can be reached and that conclusion is your own. At the end of the day, you only have your opinion and shouldn’t really state it as being a fact. IMHO 😂

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

No, you won't.

A distressed episode will imprison you in your thoughts, in your own world without any exit door.

And why would a person that has the means to help himself, be distressed? If can´t take a setback when out travelling, better stay home.

13 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

You make it sound like you have already conducted an examination of his mental health. You haven’t. You are suggesting one possibility and there are others that do not involved in him being gripped by some kind of mental paralysis.

No one on here knows the real reason why this well groomed young man has not taken some relatively simple steps to resolve his situation. Or indeed, whether the situation as described is true.

I can only repeat that the single photograph posted does not depict someone who has been living rough for five weeks. It just doesn’t.

It's an assumption.

We don't know the story. It's told by others, indeed.

But it's fact he got no home, no shelter, no money, no ticket. Right?

So, speaking in your words, it doesn't look normal. Right?

Judging about the facts it's an extraordinary situation. Right?

He can't give information about the whereabouts of his wallet, his credit card. Right?

So, how would you describe someone, who doesn't know where his home/accomodations is, or who doesn't know where his wallet is? (Passport?)

Disorientated? Unstable? Helpless? Distressed?

Or just pretending??

Tell me

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

And why would a person that has the means to help himself, be distressed? If can´t take a setback when out travelling, better stay home.

He was in good state (temporarily) when he entered Thailand?

7 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

My question is, how do you know that? You’ve constructed this whole narrative in your mind and state it as though it is fact. Maybe it is. But you don’t know that. How could you unless you are a psychologist and have personally treated this guy?

All “we” know is what is written and a single photograph. Your hypothesis may be correct, but you don’t know that it is.

Based on evidence which consists of a single photograph, I personally seriously doubt that you are correct. But I am open minded enough to recognise that your hypothesis is still a possibility.

I don’t really understand why you think there is only one conclusion that can be reached and that conclusion is your own. At the end of the day, you only have your opinion and shouldn’t really state it as being a fact. IMHO 😂

You might have a point.

However, it's my work experience.

Probably we'll read more in the future

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Thank someone that you never have been in such or similar situation, not finding the way out, captured in yourself without anybody to help you.

He can book a trip to Thailand, fill in the TDAC form, travel around but he does not know how to seek help. In Thailand as in other parts of the world people are willing to help. I cant imagine he did not eat for 5 weeks. So people would have interfered if they see someone eating from bins. Mental health is not to check. And personal i have been in several life threating situations and my health stays normal.

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

You might have a point.

Might? Did you work experience tell you to not draw conclusion of a person's mental health without sessions in person?

Apparently not!

Before I got married in Thailand I always had money put away for an emergency when I was holidaying in Pattaya. That's only commonsense, if you have no back up our travel insurance then you're better off staying home.

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

Are you for real. If he is in such a dire need of help to be able to fix his problem, he could just go to tourist police and ask them to contact embassy. Ask them to contact a friend, to send about 2000 baht to the police account, so he can access. Then take a trip to Bangkok, visit embassy and have money transferred and probably new passport if that was stolen as well but no info about that. It would take about 2-3 days to fix. I am pretty sure that the tourist police would drive him to the embassy as well.

But, if there are no money to transfer to help himself, then the result will be sleeping on the beach for several weeks as in this case. And of course, he is in distress, because he just found out he messed up his life.

Glad you have the plans all lay out for a guy that may suffer from severe mental issues.... one day it might be you !!!

Yes while I feel for the guy in his position I find it hard to not to believe he would have surely filed a police report on his missing items plus would have thought he would have asked for help then in getting his situation sorted out

5 weeks on a beach awful

Hope he gets back to Germany okay

Sounds like he had no travel insurance, and has made minimal effort to fix things for himself.

Losing "access to his finances" is one thing, but surely most people in this situation would attempt to contact their bank, file a police report, or reach out to their embassy.

Hopefully, he gets the assistance necessary to get home, as it appears he is unable to manage this himself.

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

How to call without money and without a phone?

This guy is no doubt distressed.

Let’s hope you never leave your home in your home country because if you get rolled out on the street you won’t have the wherewithal of what to do.

2 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

If tourists want to stay longer they have to show their residence and how they fund their stay.

Is his notification of stay at the park bench? And who is filling it?

Seen the weirdest things happen, you don't think clearly fast in the 40 celcius heat after a huge hangover, if waking up with no phone or wallet. Also easy to assume someone has people to fall back on, I have had times i could barely get 10-20 euro of friends in a emergency, that's called being young. Also plenty of people who got flights cancelled, myself included, while the refund took 1.5 month to arrive (of 2 cancelled flights total 1600 euro), that would have wrecked me in my early 20s.

People with (financial) stress and survival stress in general lose instant 30% intelligence, studies proof. It has a domino effect.

22 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

He can book a trip to Thailand, fill in the TDAC form, travel around but he does not know how to seek help. In Thailand as in other parts of the world people are willing to help. I cant imagine he did not eat for 5 weeks. So people would have interfered if they see someone eating from bins. Mental health is not to check. And personal i have been in several life threating situations and my health stays normal.

Probably he was mentally not able to look for help.

Be happy not to face such a situation in the future

23 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Might? Did you work experience tell you to not draw conclusion of a person's mental health without sessions in person?

Apparently not!

Every psychologist or psychiatrist will have to deal with it when writing an expert opinion for a court.

You don't know that?

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

There is one single word for you: Gullible!

Meanwhile, there’s an entire lexicon dedicated to describing people like you.

20 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Might? Did you work experience tell you to not draw conclusion of a person's mental health without sessions in person?

Apparently not!

Why not? You don’t need a couch and clipboard to spot a mental wreck. Your posts do the diagnosis for everyone.

Every unhinged rant just adds another frame to your 'basket-case demo reel'.

The only mystery is whether it’s untreated instability or terminal stupidity.

11 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Probably he was mentally not able to look for help.

If this is the case then why and how was he able to wander away from his country?

20 minutes ago, Jim Waldron said:

Sounds like he had no travel insurance, and has made minimal effort to fix things for himself.

Losing "access to his finances" is one thing, but surely most people in this situation would attempt to contact their bank, file a police report, or reach out to their embassy.

Hopefully, he gets the assistance necessary to get home, as it appears he is unable to manage this himself.

Years ago I lost both my phone and wallet. I can’t even remember the details now, but I somehow managed to contact my credit card company and within 24 hours they’d couriered a temporary replacement to me. Even then, it was a hassle. Without accommodation or some stability, it would’ve been a nightmare.

Today, the problem is even bigger.

Imagine being in Hua Hin or Chiang Mai and getting robbed. No phone. No wallet. No ID. No cash.

How to even get back to Bangkok?

How do you buy a ticket? Prove who you are? Access money? Contact anyone? ( only remember my Wife's number ).

Most people don’t memorise phone numbers anymore. Our entire lives are inside the device that just got stolen.

Sure, I keep backups. I’ve got back-ups stored online. I travel with emergency cash and spare ID locked away separately. But even with precautions, getting back to functional would still be a slow, step-by-step recovery process.

It’s never happened to me. But it’s absolutely plausible to get caught out.

Either he's missing some faculties or he's missing some life skills.

Where was he staying before he was "robbed"? Where is his passport? He says he had credit cards that were stolen. Isn't there still such a thing as 24 hour emergency credit card replacement? (American Express - don't leave home without it.)

I'm sure that within a few days a normal person could sort everything out and continue with his vacation and his life. So as others have said, there's something off about his story.

42 minutes ago, shackleton said:

Yes while I feel for the guy in his position I find it hard to not to believe he would have surely filed a police report on his missing items plus would have thought he would have asked for help then in getting his situation sorted out

5 weeks on a beach awful

Hope he gets back to Germany okay

Agreed - but the Police here are notoriosly 'offhandish' File a Police report for your items being robbed - thats it, report filed, you just have a piece of paper - you won't get further help.

The Police may attempt to contact your embassy - who, are then notoriously unhelpful, we've all seen too many stories about this.

If the lack of help cascades - people can just become stuck.

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

No one on here knows the real reason why this well groomed young man has not taken some relatively simple steps to resolve his situation. Or indeed, whether the situation as described is true.

I can only repeat that the single photograph posted does not depict someone who has been living rough for five weeks. It just doesn’t.

I’m not sure a single photo can really be treated as representative either.

That said, basic hygiene isn’t impossible to maintain even in difficult circumstances. A toothbrush, public bathrooms, and access to fresh water can go a long way.

He doesn’t look completely dishevelled or physically broken-down to me. Not perfectly groomed, obviously, but also not looking like someone who’s been entirely without support or access to basic facilities for weeks on end.

What simple steps might he have taken to resolve his situation ?

• Report Loss of Wallet / Money / ID to police - have a police report (thats it)

• Report to Embassy (in BKK - how does he get there without money) ?

• Report to the German honorary Consulate Pattaya - What can they do ?

  • Assist in contacting the main Embassy in BKK

  • Who can then assist in verifying identification

  • Who can then assist in contacting family overseas

  • Help provide emergency travel documents

• What they don't do:

  • Don't hand out cash

  • Don't provide free travel home

  • Don't pay for accommodation

• Without ID how can he receive money from overseas ?

This is why the “just buy a ticket home” comments you often see online are simplistic. Once someone loses all documents, phone access, cards, and cash simultaneously, even basic tasks become surprisingly difficult very quickly and may take time.

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10 minutes ago, Front Row said:

Either he's missing some faculties or he's missing some life skills.

Where was he staying before he was "robbed"? Where is his passport? He says he had credit cards that were stolen. Isn't there still such a thing as 24 hour emergency credit card replacement? (American Express - don't leave home without it.)

I'm sure that within a few days a normal person could sort everything out and continue with his vacation and his life. So as others have said, there's something off about his story.

Agreed - recovery would be possible, but it would take days.

Years ago I received an emergency replacement card within 24 hours. But even then, I was still able to make that international phone call to the bank - and that required money.

If I lost absolutely everything today - passports (current and expired), driving licences, backup cash, cards, phone, laptop, iPad, backup phone - every primary and backup resource gone at once - I’d be in serious trouble.

In reality, I’d eventually recover because I have a full network of friends and family here.

But remove that support network. Imagine travelling completely alone, knowing nobody.

Now the situation becomes exponentially harder.

First step would be filing a police report - but without ID, passport numbers, or even access to my accounts, how straightforward is that? The police would probably only issue a very basic theft report based on my statement.

Then comes the embassy.

Without cash, I may literally have to walk there.

Where do I sleep meanwhile? How do I eat?

At that point I'd be relying entirely on the goodwill of strangers - convincing a hostel or cheap hotel to trust that you’ll eventually repay them once your identity and finances are restored.

That’s the part people overlook when they casually say, “just contact your embassy” or “just get money sent over”

Then there’s the modern reality people forget: almost every account now relies on two-factor authentication tied to the very phone that was stolen. Banking apps, email recovery, cloud storage, even password resets can suddenly become inaccessible.

You can easily end up trapped in a bureaucratic limbo where you technically still have money, accounts, and identity - but no practical way to prove or access any of it.

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

It's an assumption.

We don't know the story. It's told by others, indeed.

But it's fact he got no home, no shelter, no money, no ticket. Right?

So, speaking in your words, it doesn't look normal. Right?

Judging about the facts it's an extraordinary situation. Right?

He can't give information about the whereabouts of his wallet, his credit card. Right?

So, how would you describe someone, who doesn't know where his home/accomodations is, or who doesn't know where his wallet is? (Passport?)

Disorientated? Unstable? Helpless? Distressed?

Or just pretending??

Tell me

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

It's an assumption.

We don't know the story. It's told by others, indeed.

But it's fact he got no home, no shelter, no money, no ticket. Right?

So, speaking in your words, it doesn't look normal. Right?

Judging about the facts it's an extraordinary situation. Right?

He can't give information about the whereabouts of his wallet, his credit card. Right?

So, how would you describe someone, who doesn't know where his home/accomodations is, or who doesn't know where his wallet is? (Passport?)

Disorientated? Unstable? Helpless? Distressed?

Or just pretending??

Tell me

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

It's an assumption.

We don't know the story. It's told by others, indeed.

But it's fact he got no home, no shelter, no money, no ticket. Right?

So, speaking in your words, it doesn't look normal. Right?

Judging about the facts it's an extraordinary situation. Right?

He can't give information about the whereabouts of his wallet, his credit card. Right?

So, how would you describe someone, who doesn't know where his home/accomodations is, or who doesn't know where his wallet is? (Passport?)

Disorientated? Unstable? Helpless? Distressed?

Or just pretending??

Tell me

Well, he states his wallet was stolen. Which in my eyes is slightly different to not knowing its whereabouts. The latter I take as being lost.

He probably (I’m guessing) has a home in Germany. My assumption is that he had a hotel booking in Thailand when he arrived. I’m struggling to work out why he didn’t tell the hotel of the theft, perhaps because of a mental breakdown, as you suggest?

However, where is his luggage? Usually a hotel wants you to check out with your luggage. And if you simply disappear without checking out and leaving your luggage behind, the hotel usually informs the police.

No money is the easiest to work out. His wallet was stolen.

He very likely had a return air booking and usually the ticket would be in his hotel room safe or somewhere in his luggage. So if he has no flight, it’s because he missed it.

So I guess I don’t quite agree with all you have said.

Here’s another possibility, he’s being doing a load of drugs and that caused him to lose his wallet and become disoriented. Five days became five weeks

But the thing that really does not add up for me is the photo. He looks reasonably well groomed. And you just don’t look like that if you have been living on the beach for five weeks. His hair isn’t shaggy and in fact is well combed, his beard is fairly well trimmed, his clothes arent totally disheveled.

So something is going on with him, he is seemingly destitute in terms of cash and access to cash. Whether by mental problems, drugs or some other reason. if the story said he had been thrown out of his hotel and had been on the beach with his suitcase for 3/4 days, then I could believe it. Five weeks and look like that, no way.

At least now he has the chance to tell his story to the police, they can inform his embassy and if he needs help, medical or otherwise, he will get it. If he’s pulling a scam he’ll just get deported, which ultimately might be what he wants.

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

You don't understand his situation and the state he's in at present unfortunately.

He could be millionaire even.

So, poor yes, but only describing his mental health.

His mental heath cannot be too bad, because he hasn't yet signed up to ASEANNOW

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

He can book a trip to Thailand, fill in the TDAC form, travel around but he does not know how to seek help. In Thailand as in other parts of the world people are willing to help. I cant imagine he did not eat for 5 weeks. So people would have interfered if they see someone eating from bins. Mental health is not to check. And personal i have been in several life threating situations and my health stays normal.

I suspect there may be additional context behind the situation that was not provided to those who initially helped this man.

The article itself did not state that he “did not eat for five weeks”.

It said he was without money to buy food or water, and without support, for more than five weeks - which is a different claim.

If that timeframe is accurate, then it would also suggest he was at least receiving occasional assistance from locals or others along the way, otherwise survival for that length of time would obviously be extremely difficult.

Situations like this are often more complex than they first appear.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

His mental heath cannot be too bad, because he hasn't yet signed up to ASENNOW

By that logic, your own presence on ASEANNOW is evidence of mental instability?

Interesting strategy.

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed - but the Police here are notoriosly 'offhandish' File a Police report for your items being robbed - thats it, report filed, you just have a piece of paper - you won't get further help.

The Police may attempt to contact your embassy - who, are then notoriously unhelpful, we've all seen too many stories about this.

If the lack of help cascades - people can just become stuck.

I’m not sure a single photo can really be treated as representative either.

That said, basic hygiene isn’t impossible to maintain even in difficult circumstances. A toothbrush, public bathrooms, and access to fresh water can go a long way.

He doesn’t look completely dishevelled or physically broken-down to me. Not perfectly groomed, obviously, but also not looking like someone who’s been entirely without support or access to basic facilities for weeks on end.

What simple steps might he have taken to resolve his situation ?

• Report Loss of Wallet / Money / ID to police - have a police report (thats it)

• Report to Embassy (in BKK - how does he get there without money) ?

• Report to the German honorary Consulate Pattaya - What can they do ?

  • Assist in contacting the main Embassy in BKK

  • Who can then assist in verifying identification

  • Who can then assist in contacting family overseas

  • Help provide emergency travel documents

• What they don't do:

  • Don't hand out cash

  • Don't provide free travel home

  • Don't pay for accommodation

• Without ID how can he receive money from overseas ?

This is why the “just buy a ticket home” comments you often see online are simplistic. Once someone loses all documents, phone access, cards, and cash simultaneously, even basic tasks become surprisingly difficult very quickly and may take time.

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed - but the Police here are notoriosly 'offhandish' File a Police report for your items being robbed - thats it, report filed, you just have a piece of paper - you won't get further help.

The Police may attempt to contact your embassy - who, are then notoriously unhelpful, we've all seen too many stories about this.

If the lack of help cascades - people can just become stuck.

I’m not sure a single photo can really be treated as representative either.

That said, basic hygiene isn’t impossible to maintain even in difficult circumstances. A toothbrush, public bathrooms, and access to fresh water can go a long way.

He doesn’t look completely dishevelled or physically broken-down to me. Not perfectly groomed, obviously, but also not looking like someone who’s been entirely without support or access to basic facilities for weeks on end.

What simple steps might he have taken to resolve his situation ?

• Report Loss of Wallet / Money / ID to police - have a police report (thats it)

• Report to Embassy (in BKK - how does he get there without money) ?

• Report to the German honorary Consulate Pattaya - What can they do ?

  • Assist in contacting the main Embassy in BKK

  • Who can then assist in verifying identification

  • Who can then assist in contacting family overseas

  • Help provide emergency travel documents

• What they don't do:

  • Don't hand out cash

  • Don't provide free travel home

  • Don't pay for accommodation

• Without ID how can he receive money from overseas ?

This is why the “just buy a ticket home” comments you often see online are simplistic. Once someone loses all documents, phone access, cards, and cash simultaneously, even basic tasks become surprisingly difficult very quickly and may take time.

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed - but the Police here are notoriosly 'offhandish' File a Police report for your items being robbed - thats it, report filed, you just have a piece of paper - you won't get further help.

The Police may attempt to contact your embassy - who, are then notoriously unhelpful, we've all seen too many stories about this.

If the lack of help cascades - people can just become stuck.

I’m not sure a single photo can really be treated as representative either.

That said, basic hygiene isn’t impossible to maintain even in difficult circumstances. A toothbrush, public bathrooms, and access to fresh water can go a long way.

He doesn’t look completely dishevelled or physically broken-down to me. Not perfectly groomed, obviously, but also not looking like someone who’s been entirely without support or access to basic facilities for weeks on end.

What simple steps might he have taken to resolve his situation ?

• Report Loss of Wallet / Money / ID to police - have a police report (thats it)

• Report to Embassy (in BKK - how does he get there without money) ?

• Report to the German honorary Consulate Pattaya - What can they do ?

  • Assist in contacting the main Embassy in BKK

  • Who can then assist in verifying identification

  • Who can then assist in contacting family overseas

  • Help provide emergency travel documents

• What they don't do:

  • Don't hand out cash

  • Don't provide free travel home

  • Don't pay for accommodation

• Without ID how can he receive money from overseas ?

This is why the “just buy a ticket home” comments you often see online are simplistic. Once someone loses all documents, phone access, cards, and cash simultaneously, even basic tasks become surprisingly difficult very quickly and may take time.

Pretty much agree with everything you say. A couple of things to add:

1. to maintain that level of hygiene for five weeks would require some ingenuity and the ability to process coherent thoughts. Suggests he may not have had a complete mental breakdown.

2. The police can be variable in their response, from stand offish to falling over themselves to help ( I think they paid for one guys taxi fare to Bangkok in the not so distant past), but usually a hotel WILL help. I find it hard to believe that he just walked away from his hotel without saying anything.

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed - recovery would be possible, but it would take days.

Years ago I received an emergency replacement card within 24 hours. But even then, I was still able to make that international phone call to the bank - and that required money.

If I lost absolutely everything today - passports (current and expired), driving licences, backup cash, cards, phone, laptop, iPad, backup phone - every primary and backup resource gone at once - I’d be in serious trouble.

In reality, I’d eventually recover because I have a full network of friends and family here.

But remove that support network. Imagine travelling completely alone, knowing nobody.

Now the situation becomes exponentially harder.

First step would be filing a police report - but without ID, passport numbers, or even access to my accounts, how straightforward is that? The police would probably only issue a very basic theft report based on my statement.

Then comes the embassy.

Without cash, I may literally have to walk there.

Where do I sleep meanwhile? How do I eat?

At that point I'd be relying entirely on the goodwill of strangers - convincing a hostel or cheap hotel to trust that you’ll eventually repay them once your identity and finances are restored.

That’s the part people overlook when they casually say, “just contact your embassy” or “just get money sent over”

Then there’s the modern reality people forget: almost every account now relies on two-factor authentication tied to the very phone that was stolen. Banking apps, email recovery, cloud storage, even password resets can suddenly become inaccessible.

You can easily end up trapped in a bureaucratic limbo where you technically still have money, accounts, and identity - but no practical way to prove or access any of it.

Yes and no. I can't believe that if someone is in such a situation that a trip to even the most ineptly staffed police station wouldn't get them started on the road to recovery. And people can be cruel but they can also be kind. We often hear of someone helping a total stranger when they could just as easily have looked away.

As for the embassy helping, your points ring true. If I were is trouble, my country's embassy is the last place I would look to for help. These days they run the embassies as profit centers. LOL.