Pattaya teen missing after planned meeting with foreigner

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Whether abandoned or not, Thailand has a Universal Newborn Allowance, a monthly allowance of 600 baht

600 baht, are you kidding me, have you fathered any children in Thailand?

I've fathered 3 children, 600 baht buys you a few nappies

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by SAFETY FIRST

33 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Good comment.

And I would add, if there was no welfare for the single mothers in the west, we would see just as many, if not more, girls working in the sex industry

Not really, as there isn't near the prostitution in the west as there is here, and jobs there you can make a lot more money. Parents in the west also aren't going to coerce their daughters to be prostitutes so they can get cash sent home like here also.

Thailand also has as much as 40% of children being raised by grandmas, whereas no other country comes even close, so it's about responsibility more than money.

There are always jobs and people to watch the children in both places. One gives you welfare , WIC and food stamps, while the other has family at home watching the children while you work, and there is always local work within a scooter drive in Thailand. Thailand doesn't enforce child support like they do in the west, which is abhorrent as that allows boys to have sex with as many naive girls as possible, creating babies, and then taking off.

49 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

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10 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Has anyone mentioned the many uneducated "freelancers" that don't work any sort of bar any more (if they ever did), that have upwards of half-a-dozen love lorn farang basement dwellers, each on the hook for 10k and up, live streaming or doing DIY videos on their brand new iPhones. They don't even have to "sleep" with anyone.

Simps ruin everything. We still had the internet in full swing when millennials were in their 20's. But this level of simping did not exist. Even the hottest girls had to earn their money.

1 minute ago, Harsh Jones said:

Simps ruin everything. We still had the internet in full swing when millennials were in their 20's. But this level of simping did not exist. Even the hottest girls had to earn their money.

Rubbish! Idiots were sending money from abroad, even when communication via Internet was in it's infancy.

Many times I was in the gym, being eyed up by girls on the phone to their sponsors, asking when the money will arrive. There was absolutely no love, loyalty nor affection.

They often just had to give it up a few time over a few weeks in order to keep the money coming in for the rest of the year.

8 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Real pensions are contributory, if they are not provided with an occupational pension there's nothing to stop them investing in their own pension their own pension. It's false to state that only government employees are provided with real pensions

We are talking about Thailand. Most Thais in the provinces live close to poverty level. Even all those with factory jobs live day by day on very modest incomes. There are no funds left to invest in an own pension.

15 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Rubbish! Idiots were sending money from abroad, even when communication via Internet was in it's infancy.

Many times I was in the gym, being eyed up by girls on the phone to their sponsors, asking when the money will arrive. There was absolutely no love, loyalty nor affection.

They often just had to give it up a few time over a few weeks in order to keep the money coming in for the rest of the year.

Those idiots were at least banging them a few times a year. The simps I am talking about are paying sums of money to women and getting NOTHING in return. That level of simpering beta cuckery is what has changed

At least for those sponsor simps, the blowjobs they got felt like ecstasy

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1 hour ago, IsmeUno said:

Rubbish! Idiots were sending money from abroad, even when communication via Internet was in it's infancy.

Yes imagine a gang of tarts yelling '1-2-3-Thank You' as they knocked back a thimbleful of water and charge some super simp many thousands of baht to watch this spectacle from thousands of Km away on his basement laptop! The simps got desperate in the covid days, the bars figured out survival.

3 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

600 baht, are you kidding me, have you fathered any children in Thailand?

I've fathered 3 children, 600 baht buys you a few nappies

Ok. You had the position that Thailand does not offer social assistance. I listed the social support programs and plans available. Now you are not satisfied with the amounts provided. Although not adequate by western standards, which has its generations on the dole to demonstrate the hazard of making it easier to be a lay about than a worker, it is generous when considered from the perspective of the local culture.

18 hours ago, Ray60 said:

yes, employees who worked for min. 15 years get a pension of about THB 3.000,-- per month. That's like no pension compared to us.

Yeah, but that is actually not the reality for the ones who plan a bit, and not use all the money to drink Lao Khao after work.

You have what you said already. That´s 3,000/month.

After that, there is a fund that pays out a one-time sum when the person is about 60 years old. That one cost about 500 baht per month and gives minimum 300.000baht (Min. 27 years monthly payments to qualify)

Beside that there are also funds available at Thai Smile insurance that cost around 700 baht per month and depending on how you chose to take it out gives about 7000 baht per month for 15 or 20 year. Not 100% percent sure about the time there.

18 hours ago, NanLaew said:

So is your cultural blindness.

So, for you it´s acceptable to blame lack of responsibility on cultural differences. Ok, that was a new one! 😂

No, I have no cultural blindness. I know exactly how things work here and how people think. It´s just that I think it´s wrong, but you on the other hand, defend it with a blanket reply. That´s awesome!

19 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Hey at least she is charging for it. Most her age have HS boyfriend who gets it almost free same as teenage matayom students.

It may not be right but look at your own country I guarantee it's happening there also.

Surely! I know it happens in all countries. Just that it´s a little bit too much here.

21 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There's a difference between being employed in a bar as a bargirl (that her sister said she didn't/couldn't do) and a freelancer going into a bar to meet foreigners.

Yeah, in your view. The result is the same, right? Also, if she can´t work in a bar, then she actually can´t freelance in a bar either, as that according to the Thai law becomes the same problem for the bar owner.

On 7/16/2026 at 8:47 AM, Deerculler said:

Sadly her tattoos tell a story.

Yeah, they surely do. Sad, at the age of only 17. Without all that make-up and the tattoos, she would actually pass as a decent, good-looking teen. I can´t get why so many have to trash down.

She's safe.

Good.

Leave her alone and MYOB.

Creeps.

44 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Ok. You had the position that Thailand does not offer social assistance. I listed the social support programs and plans available. Now you are not satisfied with the amounts provided. Although not adequate by western standards, which has its generations on the dole to demonstrate the hazard of making it easier to be a lay about than a worker, it is generous when considered from the perspective of the local culture.

The 600 baht newborn scheme is not yet universal,
still currently in trial/proposal/approval stage
and even that is literally just 2 days since trial approved
It is yet to be seen how this scheme will play out
or whether it will run out of funds before it can get going
and there will most likely be a catch somewhere if it does become universal
(anyone with a few brain cells could take an obvious guess at what conditions they would set for the 0-6 year olds to receive payments and probably be on the money)

"It is still in the proposal/approval stage and not yet implemented as a universal benefit. The current program continues with its income test." -Grok

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

My girlfriends two sons and their girlfriends are all working in Isaan, and they were all working in factories in Chon Buri earlier

They are the lucky ones. In my wife's local area of Khon Kaen, there are also factories, a cement plant, a Siemens operation, a municipal waterworks and electric sub-stations.. so these employment opportunities are there. But getting a job in these places takes connections (patronage). You can't just fill out an application and get hired. Doesn't work that way - at least not there - and I suspect most other areas of Issan are the same. That's why most stick to subsitence farming, do odd jobs like electric or house and car repairs as freelancers in their villages or others nearby. Others migrate to Bangkok - drive taxis, paint nails, work as waitresses or at a 7-ELEVEN. Others go to Bnagkok and Pattaya for sex work.

26 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

They are the lucky ones. In my wife's local area of Khon Kaen, there are also factories, a cement plant, a Siemens operation, a municipal waterworks and electric sub-stations.. so these employment opportunities are there. But getting a job in these places takes connections (patronage). You can't just fill out an application and get hired. Doesn't work that way - at least not there - and I suspect most other areas of Issan are the same. That's why most stick to subsitence farming, do odd jobs like electric or house and car repairs as freelancers in their villages or others nearby. Others migrate to Bangkok - drive taxis, paint nails, work as waitresses or at a 7-ELEVEN. Others go to Bnagkok and Pattaya for sex work.

7-11's, Amazon, Lotus, Big-C, and others like that are always hiring as kids quit after getting bored with working. They got jobs at the 7-11's in her town and Amazon, along with KFC. Didn't have to wait too long. The large cities have more jobs, and competition, along with having to rent places to stay , which make up the difference instead of staying local. One of her sons just got hired by her Tesaban as a driver's helper. Kids don't want to be farmers too much these days. A few stay on the farm and take over, but they know how hard farm work is and rather work in an air conditioned place.

23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

17-year olds can be employed in bars?

Perhaps she wanted to get out of her place and was sitting in the bar studying for her final school exams.

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Without all that make-up and the tattoos, she would actually pass as a decent, good-looking teen. I can´t get why so many have to trash down.

Because that's what the young motorbike racing street boys like. They don't care what some decrepit old holier-than-thou Western snakehead thinks. 🙂

1 hour ago, patman30 said:

The 600 baht newborn scheme is not yet universal,
still currently in trial/proposal/approval stage
and even that is literally just 2 days since trial approved
It is yet to be seen how this scheme will play out
or whether it will run out of funds before it can get going
and there will most likely be a catch somewhere if it does become universal
(anyone with a few brain cells could take an obvious guess at what conditions they would set for the 0-6 year olds to receive payments and probably be on the money)

"It is still in the proposal/approval stage and not yet implemented as a universal benefit. The current program continues with its income test." -Grok

Are you able to do your own verifications or are too lazy to check the government website? Grok is not a reliable source of information because it scrapes websites like facebook, which are not credible information sources.

The new plan that you refer to, is actually a change in the existing child care plan. The child support grant was introduced in 2015. The new plan removes some of the registration requirements to encourage enrollment. It also expanded the age group of children who qualified. In respect to the criteria, it was already in place and was working just fine for the past 10+ years.

Edited 4 minutes ago4 min by Patong2021