Phuket limits Chabad Patong Rosh Hashanah event

Let us hope it all goes off peacefully.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I want to say something else here.

It is not only Jews that should have a big problem with what these protestors did.

All decent people of all nationalities and faiths (including of course Thai people) should be unified in opposing such actions.

Agree with you, but people are conflating nationality with religion. The only one to blame for that is the Israeli government.

6 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

I wonder where the Thai governments will draw the line. How far will they allow the protesters to go in their harassment of Jews? Stopping the celebration of a religious holiday would be unthinkable in just about every other non-Muslim country and definitely puts Thailand in a bad light.

What if Muslims decide they want to stop a Christmas dinner? Would the government let them do that?

I always felt the reports of misbehavior by Israeli tourists had been overblown to the max, a handful of everyday minor incidents that had been exaggerated by social media posts.

However, the use of the Nazi slogan "Jews Out!" (Juden Raus!) and demonstrating against Jews for nothing more than celebrating a holiday indicate deep-seated antisemitism that could turn violent. If the protesters remain 200-300 Muslim Thais, then hopefully Friday's disgraceful exhibition could well be the low point. If the movement gains traction among non-Muslims, it could be the start of something much more serious.

This the thing,.

In Bangkok we have a few attention seeking hyper nationalist activists scapegoating only Israel as if israeiis are the only nationals with problematic people here.

Even that bleeds into clear racist Jew hatred which is shocking.

Then in Southern Thailand we have a movement clearly dominated by Islamist extremists with even more explicit racist Jew hating messages.

They shut down a Jewish High Holy Days event.

Yes, that should be international news if it isn't already.

But neither of these things are official messaging of the Thai government,

Where is the reaction from the Thai government?

Will it be silence?

Edited Saturday at 06:15 AM3 days by Jingthing

15 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

I wonder where the Thai governments will draw the line. How far will they allow the protesters to go in their harassment of Jews? Stopping the celebration of a religious holiday would be unthinkable in just about every other non-Muslim country and definitely puts Thailand in a bad light.

What if Muslims decide they want to stop a Christmas dinner? Would the government let them do that?

I always felt the reports of misbehavior by Israeli tourists had been overblown to the max, a handful of everyday minor incidents that had been exaggerated by social media posts.

However, the use of the Nazi slogan "Jews Out!" (Juden Raus!) and demonstrating against Jews for nothing more than celebrating a holiday indicate deep-seated antisemitism that could turn violent. If the protesters remain 200-300 Muslim Thais, then hopefully Friday's disgraceful exhibition could well be the low point. If the movement gains traction among non-Muslims, it could be the start of something much more serious.

You know better than that. It's really not against jews but against Israeli. Blame Israel for the present feelings.

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You know better than that. It's really not against jews but against Israeli. Blame Israel for the present feelings.

What do you call signs saying JEWS OUT?

Just now, Jingthing said:

What do you call signs saying JEWS OUT?

Stupidity from people who are conflating Israel with being Jewish.

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Stupidity from people who are conflating Israel with being J

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Stupidity from people who are conflating Israel with being Jewish.

They may be stupid but I disagree.

They know exactly what they're saying especially the Islamist extremists shutting down a very important Jewish religious event in Phuket

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What do you call signs saying JEWS OUT?

Are these signs in English, Thai or German as suggested by a previous poster.

I would agree that any attack on a jewish religious festival would be wrong.

But I have seen too many times where Israeli supporters try to link anything anti Israeli to being anti jewish.

13 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

Are these signs in English, Thai or German as suggested by a previous poster.

I would agree that any attack on a jewish religious festival would be wrong.

But I have seen too many times where Israeli supporters try to link anything anti Israeli to being anti jewish.

English.

No ambiguity whateover.

This isn't about what you think has happened in the past.

This is about now in Thailand.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

English.

No ambiguity whateover.

This isn't about what you think has happened in the past.

This is about now in Thailand.

Everything is relative. The past can't be excluded from today's world.

I have seen some signs since my earlier post that show "JEWISH" in English. Those signs look like professionaly created signs and not signs created by the individual protesters. I would be interested in knowing what the Thai writing on the sign translates as. Is the "Jewish" part in English an accidental mis-translation. Is it an intenional slur on Jews. My limited understanding of the protest is that it is about Israeli nationals taking over sizeable parts of the Island and excluding Thai's. It is also about the bad behaviour of some Israeli's on the island.

9 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

My limited understanding of the protest is that it is about Israeli nationals taking over sizeable parts of the Island and excluding Thai's. It is also about the bad behaviour of some Israeli's on the island.

Afaik that's not the case on Phuket.

19 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

Everything is relative. The past can't be excluded from today's world.

I have seen some signs since my earlier post that show "JEWISH" in English. Those signs look like professionaly created signs and not signs created by the individual protesters. I would be interested in knowing what the Thai writing on the sign translates as. Is the "Jewish" part in English an accidental mis-translation. Is it an intenional slur on Jews. My limited understanding of the protest is that it is about Israeli nationals taking over sizeable parts of the Island and excluding Thai's. It is also about the bad behaviour of some Israeli's on the island.

You're simply inventing excuses out of thin air,

This reminds of some documentaries I saw interviewing Palestinians and working to paint them in the best light.

They say JEWS in Arabic and the subtitle says ISRAELI.

I guess they think their audience is stupid just as it sounds like you think Thais are stupid and don't know the difference.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I saw a video of the protesting and I think they made the right call.

They appeared to be mostly or all Muslims and they were carrying many vile explicitly racist Jew hating signs. They were indeed riled up. It was much more extremist than embassy protest events.

I'm not religious but trying to stop and succeeding to stop Jewish high holy days or solemn religious events of any religion is basically evil.

This protest wasn't about objections to badly behaved Israelis.

It was 100 percent explicit racist Jew hatred.

Yeah I suppose the protesters were Thai citizens (???) with the right to protest foreigners don't have but do they really have the right to cause such disruption of religious freedom?

Does religious freedom exist in Thailand? I am sure it depends only on what the Thai people & the Thailand govt. decides is of benefit or not to Thailand

9 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

Does religious freedom exist in Thailand? I am sure it depends only on what the Thai people & the Thailand govt. decides is of benefit or not to Thailand

I think that it does.

8 hours ago, jippytum said:

swapping one dodgy location for another

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I saw a video of the protesting and I think they made the right call.

They appeared to be mostly or all Muslims and they were carrying many vile explicitly racist Jew hating signs. They were indeed riled up. It was much more extremist than embassy protest events.

I'm not religious but trying to stop and succeeding to stop Jewish high holy days or solemn religious events of any religion is basically evil.

This protest wasn't about objections to badly behaved Israelis.

It was 100 percent explicit racist Jew hatred.

Yeah I suppose the protesters were Thai citizens (???) with the right to protest foreigners don't have but do they really have the right to cause such disruption of religious freedom?

30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I think that it does.

Okay, I have no idea, which is why I was asking

1 hour ago, MarkBR said:

Does religious freedom exist in Thailand?

CONSTITUTION OF THE KINGDOM OF THAILAND

Section 31. A person shall enjoy full liberty to profess a religion, and shall enjoy the liberty to exercise or practice a form of worship in accordance with his or her religious principles, provided that it shall not be adverse to the duties of the Thai people, neither shall it endanger the safety of the State, nor shall it be contrary to public order or good morals.

Edited Saturday at 01:33 PM3 days by 10000Baht