Thailand links traffic fines to annual tax discs from August

Should have done this years ago. Easy revenue for the govt coffers.

Fake safety if people know they dont have to pay the fines.

Fantastic.

Unfortunately, I do know people who have countless unpaid tickets over the years (and decades) and are 'proud' for not having to pay.

Won't this put a dent in the "tax" levied BiB traffic stops right before holidays?

5 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

Should have done this years ago. Easy revenue for the govt coffers.

Fake safety if people know they dont have to pay the fines.

I thought they were, at least in the Metropolitan area of Bangkok.

This is not a new edition to traffic & Tax link. A couple of years ago it was deemed illegal by top Lawyers to refuse Tax if you have a traffic violation.

I myself had my Tax renewal refused unless I paid an outstanding speeding fine.

I guess that illegal loophole has now closed

"Vehicle owners with an unpaid fine issued on or after that date will still be able to pay their annual tax, but will not receive the physical tax disc until the outstanding penalty has been settled."

I wonder how this affects motorcycle and car rental shops. As they are the owners, do they have to check the "system" for unpaid fines upon return of vehicle? This should go down like a lead balloon.

12 minutes ago, sungod said:

They said this 2 years ago……

I think earlier than that. Even as long as 8/9 years ago. Certainly pre Covid. Seems like they have finally got it done.

Trouble is, it seems like a lot of the speed cameras are now non functioning, probably due to non maintenance. I guess there was no point maintaining them previously as I think I saw a stat that more than 90% of people didn’t pay their fines. So an overhaul of the cameras is probably needed.

I guess there are tickets handed out manually by cops, but do they really get entered onto a computer? I think that’s doubtful.

The downside of this to me, is that a lot of folks may opt to just drive around with no disc. Thereby risking another fine…that they don’t pay.

Still, this is a step in the right direction, so long as it is really acted upon, which is no sure thing imho.

I recall that there was also a threat to link traffic fines to licence renewal. Again, 8/9 years ago

59 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

is this a joke? there are drivers with dozens of outstanding traffic fines. for everyone who has always paid their fines on time, this feels like a slap in the face ... but that's thailand ...

At some point you have to start. It happens in Western Countries too. So, no reason to start Thai bashing again.

This first step will change a lot.

At the end to increase safety on the roads

Even in my small province they already did this.

2 years ago I had to pay a fine before I could renew my car tax .

So each year going to the vehicle tax office could be more expensive.

"Motorists will be able to check the fine and pay it directly to the transport registrar when renewing their tax. However, the original tax-payment sign, commonly known as the annual tax disc, will be withheld until all relevant fines have been paid."

Welcome to the digital world. It was just a matter of time before they linked up the "systems" to enforce laws. Unfortunately this may lead to "visa renewals" linked to the "Thai tax system". Objective to ensure that foreigners in grey-area businesses such as condo rentals are paying taxes. Unfortunately long term expats with no business interests may get caught up in the bureaucratic net. Have to get a Tax ID Number (TIN) and fill in a tax return.

And I guess the concept of points against someone’s license would be a total non starter. In a lot of countries, you get a certain number of points for each traffic violation. Too many points and they suspend your license.

But let’s not give the authorities here any ideas. 😉

38 minutes ago, Front Row said:

This seems like a no-brainer that should have / could have been initiated years ago.

Why isn’t it retroactive? Those fines are still due and outstanding. Use every means possible to collect the money due.

1 hour ago, Jim Waldron said:

The idea looks good on paper: “continuing reduction in accidents”, photo‑opportunities with police divisions, exhibitions, digital‑government booths, and Krungthai Bank displays.

But, none of that touches the core problem.

I'd suggest that Thailand’s worst road offenders already ignore fines. If enforcement remains toothless, shifting systems around won’t suddenly make them pay road tax either.

The chronic offenders aren’t deterred by signage, exhibitions, or new administrative frameworks. The only deterred is consistent enforcement, which sadly Thailand still fails to deliver.

Without that, any plan risks becoming just another round of bureaucratic theatre: lots of displays, lots of signatures, but no behavioural change among the people who cause the most damage.

This initiative could even make the situation worse: you end up with the same high‑risk drivers, still ignoring fines, but now also ignoring tax, and still on the road! Compounding this, by avoiding the road tax, they are also likely to skip Por Ror Bor, leaving victims of any accidents they cause without compulsory injury coverage.

Any administrative reforms won’t matter if the enforcement culture doesn’t change.

I believe we all know, the points made here are correct. Unfortunately, as far as officialdom is concerned, you are PEEING INTO THE WIND. All the meetings, agreements accepted via these meetings and posters wherever, make them look good, so as far as they are concerned, JOB DONE!

4 minutes ago, Surasak said:

I believe we all know, the points made here are correct. Unfortunately, as far as officialdom is concerned, you are PEEING INTO THE WIND. All the meetings, agreements accepted via these meetings and posters wherever, make them look good, so as far as they are concerned, JOB DONE!

Well, this time is different since the money of culprits are involved: if you don't pay the fine you wouldn't get taxed your vehicle.

Excellent move 👍

27 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

At some point you have to start. It happens in Western Countries too. So, no reason to start Thai bashing again.

This first step will change a lot.

At the end to increase safety on the roads

This won't help safety 🤣 The problem is that the police don't go out and get the kids racing on the roads with noisy bikes, no helmets, no license, under age, no lights and no tax.

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" The government said an earlier period of police-DLT data integration had improved enforcement and was accompanied by a continuing reduction in accidents."

Help me understand. RTP Royal Thai Police and DTL share data regarding unpaid fines.

I place a lower percentage value on collecting unpaid fines and traffic accident reduction.

Maybe more checkpoints, Police enforcement YOY, Maybe just coincidence that traffic accidents are a constantly fluctuating metric that is never steady.

2 minutes ago, Phil Here said:

This won't help safety

I don't agree.

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." (Lao Tzu)

27 minutes ago, Front Row said:

And I guess the concept of points against someone’s license would be a total non starter. In a lot of countries, you get a certain number of points for each traffic violation. Too many points and they suspend your license.

But let’s not give the authorities here any ideas. 😉

They already have that for several years. If I recall correctly you start with 12 points and there are deductions for each offence, If the system is actually in force or not is another question.

1 hour ago, mikebell said:

None of the above will work until Thailand gets a police force

This has nothing to do with police enforcement as enforcement will be by Land Transportation Division responsible for vehicular licensing.

1 hour ago, Jim Waldron said:

The idea looks good on paper: “continuing reduction in accidents”, photo‑opportunities with police divisions, exhibitions, digital‑government booths, and Krungthai Bank displays.

But, none of that touches the core problem.

I'd suggest that Thailand’s worst road offenders already ignore fines. If enforcement remains toothless, shifting systems around won’t suddenly make them pay road tax either.

The chronic offenders aren’t deterred by signage, exhibitions, or new administrative frameworks. The only deterred is consistent enforcement, which sadly Thailand still fails to deliver.

Without that, any plan risks becoming just another round of bureaucratic theatre: lots of displays, lots of signatures, but no behavioural change among the people who cause the most damage.

This initiative could even make the situation worse: you end up with the same high‑risk drivers, still ignoring fines, but now also ignoring tax, and still on the road! Compounding this, by avoiding the road tax, they are also likely to skip Por Ror Bor, leaving victims of any accidents they cause without compulsory injury coverage.

Any administrative reforms won’t matter if the enforcement culture doesn’t change.

Other countries impound the vehicle and put it in lock up which you also need to pay for or vehicles sold and if you are caught again aressted maybe lose the second car

Where are traffic tickets delivered. I’ve had 3 different addresses since I bought my car. I’ve never had traffic ticket in 10 years with the same car -which is registered at my old address

Driver’s license renewal next 🤔, I guess

So no more roadside hand written tickets then ?