Two grandparents found shot after Nonthaburi school attack

So much for gratitude. The grandparents threw their aspirations and dreams into the ditch to raise an ill conceived child, whom, years later, shoots both of them in the head, depriving them of a peaceful dotage.

This is common in rural thailand, kids dumped with the grandparents who have no control and are often too old to look after them properly.

Sad story.

The boy was allegedly bullied at school, according to other news reports, so he took it out on his grandparents. 🤔

Why would anybody have access to a gun in Thailand??? And why would that anybody let it fall into the hands of a teenager? And why did said teenager know where the ammunition was, how to load it &c?

Copycat from American news stories. USA! USA! USA!

He had downloaded American school shooting incidents onto his computer according to the police

Some say its the person not the gun that kills people but if the grandad hadn't owned the 9mm it would of saved a lot of lives including the grandparents

Very sad 😔

7 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

He had downloaded American school shooting incidents onto his computer according to the police

Some say its the person not the gun that kills people but if the grandad hadn't owned the 9mm it would of saved a lot of lives including the grandparents

Very sad 😔

Without the internet he never would have thought of shooting anyone. There's that.

3 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

The boy was allegedly bullied at school, according to other news reports, so he took it out on his grandparents. 🤔

And the others, don't they count?

I dislike this go-to answer about being bullied when they were young as it happens to almost all kids as the world has always been very hard on young people, even more so now with the social engineering and mental attacks from social media and the pressure to comply on things... but it doesn't mean you have to start taking a petulant swipe at the world around you just because it's "not fair". You suck it up and build character and make things happen for you as otherwise the system will grind you down into dust even further... always like this.

When I was young, it wasn't just other kids that were bullies, it was the teachers and staff at school too... way worse than now. Too many fragile kids around with ears that can't deal with hurty words.

As is often said refering that quote from G. Micheal Hopf from his post-apocalyiptic novel Those Who Remain "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times."

Edited August 7Aug 7 by Sir Dude

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Why would anybody have access to a gun in Thailand??? And why would that anybody let it fall into the hands of a teenager? And why did said teenager know where the ammunition was, how to load it &c?

Copycat from American news stories. USA! USA! USA!

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Why would anybody have access to a gun in Thailand??? And why would that anybody let it fall into the hands of a teenager? And why did said teenager know where the ammunition was, how to load it &c?

Copycat from American news stories. USA! USA! USA!

Are you for real?

Everyone in Thailand has access to guns in thailand, currently the highest ownership in S E A

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

43 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without the internet he never would have thought of shooting anyone. There's that.

How do you know or prove that statement?

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6 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

ill conceived child

Do you know the family?

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

How do you know or prove that statement?

Prior to the internet how many school shootings occurred anywhere in the world

2 hours ago, Artisi said:

Are you for real?

Everyone in Thailand has access to guns in thailand, currently the highest ownership in S E A

Everyone ?

I certainly hope not.

Last time I did was at a shooting range.

Hardly accessible though

Edited August 7Aug 7 by kwak250

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without the internet he never would have thought of shooting anyone. There's that.

That's like saying without Grandparents he would not of shot them

3 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

When I was young, it wasn't just other kids that were bullies, it was the teachers and staff at school too... way worse than now.

How on earth can you claim that the abuse you experienced in your school years was "way worse than now"? There's hardly a week goes by here in Thailand without some teacher being accused of physical abuse of children and school principals trying to hush things up.

2 hours ago, kwak250 said:

That's like saying without Grandparents he would not of shot them

Very much different. I'm saying the internet has given nutjobs a place to gather.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

How on earth can you claim that the abuse you experienced in your school years was "way worse than now"? There's hardly a week goes by here in Thailand without some teacher being accused of physical abuse of children and school principals trying to hush things up.

One could refer to the cane / belt getting dished out at school for poor behaviour 80's / 90's and before, that's been gone for a long time...

There's little or no discipline now by teachers or parents, even less from grand parents.

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Do you know the family?

The proof is the pudding. The tree is known by its fruit. It must be painful to be old and have learned so little about human nature.

9 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

So much for gratitude. The grandparents threw their aspirations and dreams into the ditch to raise an ill conceived child, whom, years later, shoots both of them in the head, depriving them of a peaceful dotage.

OK. Are you assuming that his life (whole life) growing up with his grandparents was happy non violent etc? Maybe it wasn't.

I cant find it now but there's mention of the boy being distraught about bullying. Awful.

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

OK. Are you assuming that his life (whole life) growing up with his grandparents was happy non violent etc? Maybe it wasn't.

I cant find it now but there's mention of the boy being distraught about bullying. Awful.

Now reported further in the Thai news, seems bullying and rejection of complaints to mother was ignored and extremely poor advice given, hence the outcome.

8 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

11 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Do you know the family?

The proof is the pudding. The tree is known by its fruit. It must be painful to be old and have learned so little about human nature.

We'll take that as a 'no' then? It must be comforting to think one knows so much when the contrary is obvious.

13 hours ago, kwak250 said:

Everyone ?

I certainly hope not.

Last time I did was at a shooting range.

Hardly accessible though

If you have a Thai wife....most of us do...get her to go to the cop station and apply for a gun....! That's generally all there is to it. Most Thais know cops in there area!

Is there a law in Thailand that requires firearm owners to secure their weapons? For instance like locking the weapon in a safe so children cannot access them. This could be a moot point in this case because the grandfather was the legal owner of the pistol because he is now dead. The PM has said there will be new laws as result of this shooting. One of the cardinal rules of firearm ownership is to lock them up especially if children are in the house.

31 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Is there a law in Thailand that requires firearm owners to secure their weapons? For instance like locking the weapon in a safe so children cannot access them. This could be a moot point in this case because the grandfather was the legal owner of the pistol because he is now dead. The PM has said there will be new laws as result of this shooting. One of the cardinal rules of firearm ownership is to lock them up especially if children are in the house.

My gun safe had to be approved by the police before I was allowed to buy my pistols.

23 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

My gun safe had to be approved by the police before I was allowed to buy my pistols.

You can own a firearm as a foreigner in Thailand?

2 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

You can own a firearm as a foreigner in Thailand?

Been licensed since 2007.

In 2017, the laws changed, banning foreigners from obtaining a licence.

The 2017 change means I cannot buy any more.

Edited August 8Aug 8 by Ralf001

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Been licensed since 2007.

In 2017, the laws changed, banning foreigners from obtaining a licence.

The 2017 change means I cannot buy any more.

wow. Never knew that.

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20 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Been licensed since 2007.

In 2017, the laws changed, banning foreigners from obtaining a licence.

The 2017 change means I cannot buy any more.

Interesting. Didn't know that. Is the licence for life, or do you need to update? Also, can foreigners rent firearms at the shooting ranges?