webfact Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Young American jumps to his death at Phuket hotel Picture: Daily New PHUKET: -- A 26 year old US national suffering from depression jumped to his death from the third floor of a Phuket hotel on Sunday. The mother of the victim said he had tried to commit suicide many times before. Sakhu police found the body of Austin Ryan Kirschenmann on a wall outside the hotel at Nai yang beach. Efforts by medics to save the man failed and he was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital, reported Daily News. Mother Stacey Dawn Kirschenmann, 54, said that the family had no dispute that her son had tried to end his own life. She said he suffered from depression and had tried to kill himself many times before. Now she would take the body of her son home to America. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-09-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 They knew he had tried it before, and didn't get him professional help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Just1Voice said: They knew he had tried it before, and didn't get him professional help? Not as straight forward as that. They may have gotten him the best help available, and it wasn't effective. Add to that the ridiculous rules about prescriptions (that have many doctors refusing so they don't get on DEA watchlists), and the insurance companies that often exclude mental health care. It's a huge problem, even with the best of intentions. Unless you want to keep someone under watch 24/7 for their entire lives. And that's no way to live, even if the family can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3rd floor? he must have been very disturbed and I feel for his family. RiP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, LannaGuy said: 3rd floor? he must have been very disturbed and I feel for his family. RiP. While he may have had a history of depression, that doesn't preclude the possibility of a low railing accident, or foul play. A 3rd floor incident carries too much risk of devastating injuries instead of a quick fatality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, impulse said: While he may have had a history of depression, that doesn't preclude the possibility of a low railing accident, or foul play. A 3rd floor incident carries too much risk of devastating injuries instead of a quick fatality. Yes - I am thinking that if he really wanted to kill himslf he would have stayedat a high rise buiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Bring on the sleuths. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Kadilo said: Bring on the sleuths. You can look at it that way. Or you can look at it as pointing out to the the family that everything in Thailand isn't always as proclaimed by the authorities. Which my catch some people off guard if they come from a country where the authorities actually want the truth, even if it may hurt tourist numbers. I'd certainly want an investigation if the guy were my brother or my son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Maybe he was afraid of heights, so 3rd floor only. Edited September 4, 2017 by Deli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: She said he suffered from depression and had tried to kill himself many times before. They should have kept him from watching "Herold&Maude" all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sghkt Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Just1Voice said: They knew he had tried it before, and didn't get him professional help? Where in the article does it say that they had never gotten him professional help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Kadilo said: Bring on the sleuths. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Bring out the gimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySlipper Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Thailand should really be renamed 'Lost Vegas' as in the movie Leaving Las Vegas. Seems too many people are coming here to take their lives. I feel for them, but jumping off anything only puts innocents at risk. Shouldn't be so selfish in ending one's life. Poor kid! Hope you find greener pastures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Thailand needs to set up several suicide booths for the tourists.. charge 500 baht each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 A troll post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 People who are depressed will take their lives when they decide to. The parents of this guy must have came with him to Thailand, at least the mother. Maybe to cheer him up and it did not work. RIP. I have had a few friends go to where they enjoyed themselves then ended it all. Thailand is not the only place this happens by the way. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 On 9/4/2017 at 11:10 AM, LivinginKata said: Yes - I am thinking that if he really wanted to kill himslf he would have stayedat a high rise buiding. Why? He was successful...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacey Kirschenmann Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I am his mother Stacey Kirschenmann. I picked his body off the wall and was there. I never said he tried to kill himself before. He was not suicidal ever in the past. He took drugs in Thailand: psychedelic drugs. He had a bad "trip" and felt he was in HELL. He killed himself at that time. We didn't know he felt like killing himself only that he was struggling after ingesting this drug. We flew from USA TO HELP HIM get back. This was sudden and tragic. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirk Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The number of Americans residing in this country with mental health issues is disturbing. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, falkirk said: The number of Americans residing in this country with mental health issues is disturbing. RIP. You mean the number of expats? Americans make a a very small percent of tourists or expats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Stacey Kirschenmann said: He took drugs in Thailand: psychedelic drugs. He had a bad "trip" and felt he was in HELL. He killed himself at that time. Thank you for telling the true story . And may your son rest in peace. Unfortunately too man young people experiment with drugs . Every year its getting worse and we should keep fighting it and keep the drugs off the streets . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirk Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 17/09/2017 at 5:49 PM, inThailand said: You mean the number of expats? Americans make a a very small percent of tourists or expats. Which makes it all the more disturbing. They over represented. Most unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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