Abhisit warns against ‘disrespecting the people’

[webfact]

Abhisit warns against ‘disrespecting the people’

By The Nation

 

Abhisit Vejjajiva

 

BANGKOK: -- Going against the people’s will could be dangerous, and discussing the future of politics at this juncture without first seeing the public’s opinion in a general election was tantamount to disrespecting the people, Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva warned on Tuesday.

 

Abhisit’s remarks came after his former colleague Suthep Thaugsuban had revealed the possibility of the People’s Democratic Reform Foundation forming a political party with a view to supporting Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to continue in power.

 

Abhisit acknowledged that many people were concerned about Suthep’s stance.

 

However, he was not sure how Prayut would participate in politics because the general was not eligible to run in an election.

 

The former premier added that he was not certain whether there would be any party nominating Prayut as a PM candidate.

 

However, the Democrat leader called for MPs to vote to select a prime minister first, in order to show respect for the people who had voted for them to be members of the House of Representatives.

 

Abhisit stressed that after the general election, it would be dangerous to defy the people’s will.

 

It was not about legislation alone, and everyone also needed to look at the people’s demands as reflected in the national poll, he said.

 

It was inappropriate to make any assumption about what would happen after the election, he emphasised, adding that doing so was akin to disrespecting the people.

 

Abhisit also said he did not want to see an atmosphere of distrust that the organic laws were being left unfinished so as to delay the election.

 

“That would not be good,” he added.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30326521

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-09-13

[Reigntax]

Hardly a person with a history or desire of respecting the people. Although he and his offsider, the mad monk did hand out lead pellets to celebrate and maintain his appointed PM term.

[Samui Bodoh]

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

Abhisit’s remarks came after his former colleague Suthep Thaugsuban had revealed the possibility of the People’s Democratic Reform Foundation forming a political party with a view to supporting Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to continue in power.

 

Abhisit acknowledged that many people were concerned about Suthep’s stance.

 

However, he was not sure how Prayut would participate in politics because the general was not eligible to run in an election.

 

And the HUGE pile of crap among the ruling elite is starting its slow, downward movement on to the heads of the people.

 

Suthep floating an idea to form a political party to support Prayut?  WHOA! Who saw that one coming? I mean, Suthep said he wasn't going to be involved in politics; and we all know that his word is gold.

 

Prayut not eligible to run in an election? Gee, I wonder if the entire reason that the new constitution allows an "outside" PM is so that Prayut doesn't need to run in an election? That couldn't be right, could it?

 

"Disrespecting the people"? What Thai politician has ever disrespected the people? They all participate in an election, don't they?

 

The whole country will be drowning in it soon.

 

 

[pornprong]

 the future of politics at this juncture without first seeing the public’s opinion in a general election was tantamount to disrespecting the people

 

From the man who twice boycotted elections to avoid seeing the public's opinion.

 

[sjaak327]

1 hour ago, pornprong said:

 the future of politics at this juncture without first seeing the public’s opinion in a general election was tantamount to disrespecting the people

 

From the man who twice boycotted elections to avoid seeing the public's opinion.

 

Exactly, and let's not forget his party abandoning their seats in the house, a great disrespect to the people that put them there...

[nausea]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

without first seeing the public’s opinion in a general election

Wow! That's a novel idea. The guy's obviously a dirty commie.

[newcomer71]

And the puppet theater show must go on...

[rkidlad]

Prayut will never put himself forward in a 'fair' election. He would lose miserably and his ego couldn't handle that. And before anyone says he can't anyway, he can seemingly do whatever he likes. 

 

Anyway, all this talk of who will run - when is the date of the election again?

[Orac]

 the future of politics at this juncture without first seeing the public’s opinion in a general election was tantamount to disrespecting the people

 

From the man who twice boycotted elections to avoid seeing the public's opinion.

 

 

He only became PM in the first place due to a deal engineered by the military to partner him up with Newin thus avoiding an election and seeking the publics opinion. The hypocricy of this man is breathtaking.

 

[yellowboat]

Military rule is the ultimate show of disrespect to a civil society.

[PatOngo]

4 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Military rule is the ultimate show of disrespect to a civil society.

........along with corruption!

[YetAnother]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

because the general was not eligible to run in an election.

 

The former premier added that he was not certain whether there would be any party nominating Prayut as a PM candidate.

well, which is it ? is he eligible or not ?

[klauskunkel]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

he was not sure how Prayut would participate in politics because the general was not eligible to run in an election.

Do you not understand the General's statement: "I can do what I want."? Do you not understand what Article 44 is and does? 

That's "how he would participate", and that's how he will make himself eligible, if he so chooses.

Abhisit, Abhisit, I hope your statement had the purpose of eliciting a reaction from the PM - because, if you really do not understand the ancient political concept of Absolute Power, then maybe you just don't have a grasp on politics yourself.

[Eric Loh]

The Dem Party is finished and Ahbisit is making himself irrelevant to politics and to the people with his accommodating stance towards the PDRC and Prayut. He is making himself more and more unelectable and wouldn't be surprised to see defection or party split.  

[dcpo]

So, Suthep wants a military government long term. Who could possibly have predicted that? Where are the useful whistle idiots now? Or was this the objective for all of them all along?

[Srikcir]

Evidence that an alternate universe exists.

The real issue for Abhisit is that no matter how much he shouts for respect for himself, he and his party won't win majority in the next election. Thus, Supthep's switch from the Democrats to a third party.

[Denim]

Abhisit stressed that after the general election, it would be dangerous to defy the people’s will.

 

Hmm......never seemed to worry him or his military mates in the past.

[hansnl]

6 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Hardly a person with a history or desire of respecting the people. Although he and his offsider, the mad monk did hand out lead pellets to celebrate and maintain his appointed PM term.

Like another ex that had a cleaning party with "drug dealers"?

Which in my eyes, was much worse as reacting to looting, burning and killing.

Selective memory runs rampant.

[farcanell]

1 hour ago, Denim said:

Abhisit stressed that after the general election, it would be dangerous to defy the people’s will.

 

Hmm......never seemed to worry him or his military mates in the past.

Lol.... but it's ok to disrespect them before the (sorry, "an") election.

 

anyway.... this isn't a problem... just bring the tanks and soldiers back in and have another coup

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The Dem Party is finished and Ahbisit is making himself irrelevant to politics and to the people with his accommodating stance towards the PDRC and Prayut. He is making himself more and more unelectable and wouldn't be surprised to see defection or party split.  

 

IMHO The Democrats under Abhisit and the current leadership could not win an election even if they were the only party standing. Until the party members dump the current leadership, dump Abhisit and publicly vow to have nothing to do with Suthep or any party that he has a finger the Democrats have no chance at all.

 

That probably won't happen until after the 3rd snowfall of the year on Nana Plaza.

[Deez]

I think overthrowing a democratically elected government qualifies as ‘disrespecting the people’

[Reigntax]

3 hours ago, dcpo said:

So, Suthep wants a military government long term. Who could possibly have predicted that? Where are the useful whistle idiots now? Or was this the objective for all of them all along?

 

They are still around and many are still justifying the military on tv also.

[Reigntax]

2 hours ago, hansnl said:

Like another ex that had a cleaning party with "drug dealers"?

Which in my eyes, was much worse as reacting to looting, burning and killing.

Selective memory runs rampant.

 

Have no sympathy for drug dealers. Not a single one of them who feed of the addiction of others. Its not selective memory that runs rampant, its just the lack of a comparative level of intelligence and critical analysis

[jesimps]

3 hours ago, Reigntax said:

 

They are still around and many are still justifying the military on tv also.

There's one about four posts previous.

[yellowboat]

7 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The Dem Party is finished and Ahbisit is making himself irrelevant to politics and to the people with his accommodating stance towards the PDRC and Prayut. He is making himself more and more unelectable and wouldn't be surprised to see defection or party split.  

Pretty sure he knows he is hated by a good chunk of the population.  They would need to find somebody who is far more palatable than he.  Not a lot of personalities out there that shine tho. 

Edited September 13, 2017 by yellowboat

[Eric Loh]

Just now, yellowboat said:

Pretty sure he knows he is hated by a good chunk of the population.  They would need to find somebody who is far more palatable than he.  Not a lot of personalities out there that shine. 

I am sure he knows that. He was groomed since the age of 27 to be the party leader and future PM and he will not like to end his political life as a failure and a crashing loss of face. His only hope is to hang on to Suthep and the military and their evil design to stay in power. He may get something from that evil coalition.

[Reigntax]

4 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Pretty sure he knows he is hated by a good chunk of the population.  They would need to find somebody who is far more palatable than he.  Not a lot of personalities out there that shine tho. 

 

Ahbisit would have made a good PM, educated in the west and generally likeable. Unfortunately he turned out to be a jellyback and just another puppet of the military powers and Suthep's mobsters. His days of ever hoping to be an elected PM have long dissappeared, however, like most of the current non elected government, they only believe what they want to hear and ignore most of the truth.

[brewsterbudgen]

Truly a disgrace. Astonishing to think he was educated at Eton and Oxford.

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

 

Ahbisit would have made a good PM, educated in the west and generally likeable. Unfortunately he turned out to be a jellyback and just another puppet of the military powers and Suthep's mobsters. His days of ever hoping to be an elected PM have long dissappeared, however, like most of the current non elected government, they only believe what they want to hear and ignore most of the truth.

Totally agree and exactly my sentiment about him except that he will never make a good PM. Maybe a good deputy or FM. His upbringing and early years in England make him may have influence his demeanour. So many times his  body language looks out of place when visiting and interacting with the farmers. His biggest weakness like you say is that he buckle when confronted with strong personalities like Suthep and the military. True leader are fearless and know who they are and what they stand for. He is not. 

[Samui Bodoh]

I don't buy that 'Mark' is finished. 

 

Yes, he is a bad politician. Yes, he cannot connect to the proverbial 'average Somchai'. Yes, he carries horrendous baggage. Yes, in my view he has unacknowledged blood on his hands.

 

But, who else is going to lead the Dems? At this point, if there is an election next year (a big "IF"), there will need to be someone who has the name recognition to be leader of the Dems, and I doubt that there is time for a 'newbie' to attain the name needed. Thai politics is very much identity based, and who else is there in the Dem party? (that is a serious question- if not 'Mark, then who?). And can they be controlled by the PTB? Who would the PTB trust?

 

Like it or not, the Dems will win a large number of seats. They will win in the South, and they will win some in Bangkok. Will they win a majority? I doubt that unless there is some serious funny business.

 

They are a long-standing party that will win a lot of seats.

 

The question is what will they do with those numbers? Will they support Big P as an "outside" PM?

 

That is the question.

 

Who will the "anti-Red" people vote for?

 

Edited September 13, 2017 by Samui Bodoh