snoop1130 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Phuket tour bus driver charged for underpass pile-up Shela Riva PHUKET:-- A tour bus driver has been charged with reckless driving after he caused a four-vehicle pile-up in the southbound lane of Darasamut Underpass in front of Central Festival Phuket this morning (Sept 13). The accident occurred at about 9:15am, causing massive traffic tailbacks southbound along one of the busiest roads on the island. “The bus driver was driving too fast and collided into the back of a black van, which as a result hit the pickup truck in front of it,” Capt Jarat Lempan of the Wichit Police told The Phuket News today. Full Story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-tour-bus-driver-charged-for-underpass-pile-up-63858.php#fE80WV3JpXb8cvPL.97 -- © Copyright Phuket News 2017-9-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Most buses drive too fast as they are under powered and take a long time to get up to speed. Once they are going good they don't want to slow down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 No brake failure? A gas pedal failure? Or just brain failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The world's worst designed underpass, originally with three lanes and no separation, ripe for head on collisions. Now a shonky two lane underpass with concrete barriers. Dreadful, embarrassing and dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Another "brake" brain failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) 49 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said: The world's worst designed underpass, originally with three lanes and no separation, ripe for head on collisions. Now a shonky two lane underpass with concrete barriers. Dreadful, embarrassing and dangerous. How did u know it was even "designed"? Maybe it was a school classroom exercise at some time. Just thinking that perhaps the roadway between the barrier and the solid yellow line could be designated for motorcyclists only? Or would that be too difficult for locals to use/understand? Edited September 14, 2017 by lvr181 Additional comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, lvr181 said: How did u know it was even "designed"? Maybe it was a school classroom exercise at some time. Just thinking that perhaps the roadway between the barrier and the solid yellow line could be designated for motorcyclists only? Or would that be too difficult for locals to use/understand? Motorbikes are not allowed in the tunnel at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Two lane underpasses are common throughout the world. Living in London the traffic news every few days would refer to a broken down vehicle in the Blackwall Tunnel causing a massive tailback. The problem with the Darasamuth Underpass is that with the concrete barriers now in place, there/s no flexibility. Cars already in the Underpass are stuck there, whereas a moveable barrier would at least allow the police to clear the tunnel and make it easier for emergency vehicles. But since when have emergency vehicles been given a thought when it comes to road design in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 hours ago, ThaiWai said: Motorbikes are not allowed in the tunnel at all. True... but that "rule" was made up when it was a three lane suicide tunnel.... now that the concrete barrier has been put in, a bike lane would seem appropriate, with a new "rule" disallowing sidecars contraptions and other creepy crawlers (those vehicles unable to travel at the designated speed limit, or unwilling to do so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 59 minutes ago, farcanell said: True... but that "rule" was made up when it was a three lane suicide tunnel.... now that the concrete barrier has been put in, a bike lane would seem appropriate, with a new "rule" disallowing sidecars contraptions and other creepy crawlers (those vehicles unable to travel at the designated speed limit, or unwilling to do so) No, that rule is applicable to all tunnels. Look at the new Pattaya tunnel and the other tunnel at Tesco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 8 hours ago, stevenl said: No, that rule is applicable to all tunnels. Look at the new Pattaya tunnel and the other tunnel at Tesco. Old and outdated rule that should be dumped or reformed. All it serves as now is a money spinner for the RTP leeches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 On 14/09/2017 at 10:26 PM, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: Old and outdated rule that should be dumped or reformed. All it serves as now is a money spinner for the RTP leeches... How is it a money spinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the guest Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 An underpass which has completely zero value for the traffic in Phuket, well done ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwct Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Time to bring in foreign bus drivers with experience and proper licenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, tomwct said: Time to bring in foreign bus drivers with experience and proper licenses. You have a great sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, the guest said: An underpass which has completely zero value for the traffic in Phuket, well done ! Don't agree. Traffic North-south and even more so south-north moves a lot faster now. Even during rush hour it is faster now than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 12 hours ago, beechbum said: How is it a money spinner? If you don't know the answer to that you don't live here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Once again Thai idiots at work. Driving and tunnel design! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: If you don't know the answer to that you don't live here... Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 No need to get all excited guys. It's just a little rear-ender. The sort we see every day in normal congested traffic anywhere. The only reason this made the news was because it was inside a tunnel and involved a coach. Good headline material. If it had been on an expressway somewhere with 4 cars, nobody would've cared less. I suggest this incident was a very low speed crash. Doesn't take much for a 20 tonne coach to shunt 2 cars in front. He could do that at 15 kmph. Sure, the driver was not paying attention, and he'll be in trouble for "reckless" driving. Interestingly, no mention of a reckless driving charge for the pickup driver travelling behind the coach, who also cleverly managed to join the fun, and run into the arse of the stationary bus, making it a 4 vehicle "pile up". Ho hum. Nothing story. The layout of the tunnel has nothing to do with this piddly little accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The design of this tunnel with three lanes and no separation of oncoming traffic was idiotic from day one. The biggest surprise to doomsayers, like myself, was that the predicted horrendous head on crash never quite eventuated. There were many close calls, I experienced a couple myself. I remember the first accident inside the underpass involved an old fellow on a 3 wheeler who decided it was a good idea to stop to collect recyclables (rubbish) and then U-turn in front of a truck. Bikes are banned from all underpasses here for good reason. The authorities, having finally recognized the inherent dangers of the layout, have now closed the middle lane and inserted barriers. A pity they didn't think to repaint the lines to make small breakdown lanes on the left sides. As someone else pointed out, this incident was just a (normal) inattentive driver shunting slower traffic from behind. Happens everywhere. The tunnels have greatly improved traffic flow through these two neighboring intersections. Now if they could just do something to improve the mess at the next intersection to the south the journey would be even more free flowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: If you don't know the answer to that you don't live here... I do and if you think the BIB give a FF about motorbikes going through the underpass then your deluded in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 hours ago, beechbum said: I do and if you think the BIB give a FF about motorbikes going through the underpass then your deluded in a big way. Just part of the 'never mind' Thai mentality ... BiB busy elsewhere taking fines from tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 10:02 PM, LivinginKata said: On 9/16/2017 at 7:46 PM, beechbum said: I do and if you think the BIB give a FF about motorbikes going through the underpass then your deluded in a big way. Just part of the 'never mind' Thai mentality ... BiB busy elsewhere taking fines from tourists. They're enforcing it in Pattaya https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1001139-motorcyclists-fined-1000-baht-for-using-tunnel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 20 hours ago, stevenl said: Nonsense. 23 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: If you don't know the answer to that you don't live here... 3 hours ago, Old Croc said: They're enforcing it in Pattaya https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1001139-motorcyclists-fined-1000-baht-for-using-tunnel/ 17 hours ago, beechbum said: I do and if you think the BIB give a FF about motorbikes going through the underpass then your deluded in a big way. You know nothing. I am not deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlehead Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 7:02 PM, the guest said: An underpass which has completely zero value for the traffic in Phuket, well done ! I take it that you weren't here before the tunnels were built. As much as we like to complain about how long it takes to build a tunnel here, I believe they do much to keep the traffic moving. Especially northbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: You know nothing. I am not deluded. How many motorbikes have you seen pulled over and charged for riding through a Phuket underpass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Old Croc said: They're enforcing it in Pattaya https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1001139-motorcyclists-fined-1000-baht-for-using-tunnel/ Oh ok then they're obviously going to do the same here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, beechbum said: How many motorbikes have you seen pulled over and charged for riding through a Phuket underpass? When I lived in Patong 25 years ago there wasn't a tunnel. I do know that the RTP are basically a bunch of thieves after many, many years of driving cars and riding motorbikes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: When I lived in Patong 25 years ago there wasn't a tunnel. I do know that the RTP are basically a bunch of thieves after many, many years of driving cars and riding motorbikes here. When i lived in Patong there was no tunnel either what's that got to do with anything? In Fact going by your above statement not only was there no tunnel, there was no you either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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