webfact Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Fake 1000 baht notes: Pattaya police arrest three eastern Europeans Picture: Sophon Cable PATTAYA: -- Pattaya's chief of police yesterday announced the arrest of three eastern European men. While two were behind credit card fraud a third is believed to be involved in the spate of fake 1,000 baht notes at the resort. Losses are believed to be 300,000 baht. Apichai Krobpetch warned traders to be on the lookout for more fake notes in an indication that the cops may not yet have got the entire gang. Picture: Sophon Cable The first two arrested were Russian Igor Britvich, 36, and Arman Shegelov of Kazakhstan. They were arrested after reports from a bank of suspicious activity at a department store in the resort where the men were using fake cards to purchase goods. They both had fake cards and Shegelov had other incriminating items in his possession including a Citizen watch and two sales slips. Picture: Sophon Cable Their arrest led to the inquiry being expanded and the arrest of 33 year old Bulgarian Peter Lipov. He was found with fake cards and two fake 1,000 baht notes matching the description of ones already used last week to defraud traders. There were irregularities in the serial numbers. Apichai warned shop owners to continue to be on the lookout for fake 1,000 baht notes. Posters on the Sophon Cable TV page on Facebook once again moaned that the police should show the faces of suspects. Source: Sophon Cable -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-09-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) More quality tourists !! Edited September 18, 2017 by davehowden change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Good work ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 hour ago, davehowden said: More quality tourists !! Fake money instead of no money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Must be the quality Russian tourists that that recent hotelier was saying will hopefully fill his hotel up. LOL sure hope he checks what they paid him with ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Get Real said: Good work ! Yes indeed.....whete are alk the "knockers" now?.....the quiteness is beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 So quality tourists are using fake money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeakeasyThai Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Dumb. 1,000 notes always attact attention. I have lost count of the times when presenting a 1,000 note Thai's do not have the change for it, and usually end up running around to their mates gathering up the change therefore bringing ubwanted attention and more than likely scrutinising the 1,000 note. A clever approach would have been to replicate 500 or even 100 notes. You just can't buy common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Shame the report doesn't tell how to identify these fake notes except for "irregularities in the serial numbers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Times were good before 1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I was right when I said they are most likely not Arabs as some idiots described them.I was right when I said most likely east Europeans.So many idiots around....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 These must be the high spending tourists that are coming this high season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said: I was right when I said they are most likely not Arabs as some idiots described them.I was right when I said most likely east Europeans.So many idiots around....? You are simply a genious, should immediately apply for the police job here in Pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Agree @SpeakEasyThai. Smaller denominations would have been much easier to pass off. I would have thought that most of the largest denomination notes come from the bank/ATM before being split, so fakes would be less prevalent than if it were smaller notes, which would be passed around a lot more and diffused into the system before making it back to the bank. Hope they don't "do a Modi" and use it as a reason to recall all large notes and screw both themselves and the people over at great expense to all. I'm not sure they would be able to create a secure and inexpensive digital baht processing system yet, as it would likely have to be a phone based scanning system for smaller market and street vendors to use. It's not exactly Japan where they are much more likely to know how to use and secure their cryptos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICECOOL Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 38 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said: Dumb. 1,000 notes always attact attention. I have lost count of the times when presenting a 1,000 note Thai's do not have the change for it, and usually end up running around to their mates gathering up the change therefore bringing ubwanted attention and more than likely scrutinising the 1,000 note. A clever approach would have been to replicate 500 or even 100 notes. You just can't buy common sense. The aim is to buy small item and get real change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 34 minutes ago, johng said: Shame the report doesn't tell how to identify these fake notes except for "irregularities in the serial numbers" Previous report says the Thai numerals and roman numerals don't match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Where does it state they were tourists ? These are just criminals who have picked a country where they can easily make, produce and use the local currency. Thai visa is full of posters who are living in the country on other types of visa and look down on any one who has any form of short term visa with a holier than thou contemptuous attitude. Why? There day of reckoning will come when local xenophobia really kicks in and the only visa available will be a 30 day one arrival....and maybe sooner than you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 No back handers accepted in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 51 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said: Dumb. 1,000 notes always attact attention. I have lost count of the times when presenting a 1,000 note Thai's do not have the change for it, and usually end up running around to their mates gathering up the change therefore bringing ubwanted attention and more than likely scrutinising the 1,000 note. A clever approach would have been to replicate 500 or even 100 notes. You just can't buy common sense. Nice to read that you are well situated with the problem at hand. I guess they will be checking you next time it regards the values you just described- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hmmm i just looked at a few 1000 baht serial numbers on the older and newer style the alphabet letter doesn't correspond between Thai and Roman so for example A is Gor Gai, B is kor Kai ,C should be Kor kuat but mine say Kor Kuai or Tor tahanHopefully these 30 notes I got from the bank yesterday aren't all fake ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roel Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 hour ago, SpeakeasyThai said: Dumb. 1,000 notes always attact attention. I have lost count of the times when presenting a 1,000 note Thai's do not have the change for it, and usually end up running around to their mates gathering up the change therefore bringing ubwanted attention and more than likely scrutinising the 1,000 note. A clever approach would have been to replicate 500 or even 100 notes. You just can't buy common sense. 1 hour ago, ICECOOL said: The aim is to buy small item and get real change Not even that. The people who produce them do not try to buy anything. Too high risk. They just sell 10,000 of these notes at 100 Baht each in one wholesale deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Before 1980, US $20 were easier to counterfeit than a US $1.00 bill - I was in the Army in Samae San 1972, the entire Army Base and Utapao was paid with counterfeit $20 bills............they had been brought from Bangkok by Chase Manhatten bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Kazakhstan Country in Central Asia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 7 hours ago, webfact said: They were arrested after reports from a bank of suspicious activity at a department store in the resort where the men were using fake cards to purchase goods. 3 hours ago, dotpoom said: Yes indeed.....whete are alk the "knockers" now?.....the quiteness is beautiful. I am a Pattaya police knocker having fallen foul of their dubious and devious practices which has cost me plenty. If you check out the report above you will note it was the bank who deserves credit not the kwaistone cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Shiver said: Agree @SpeakEasyThai. Smaller denominations would have been much easier to pass off. I would have thought that most of the largest denomination notes come from the bank/ATM before being split, so fakes would be less prevalent than if it were smaller notes, which would be passed around a lot more and diffused into the system before making it back to the bank. Hope they don't "do a Modi" and use it as a reason to recall all large notes and screw both themselves and the people over at great expense to all. I'm not sure they would be able to create a secure and inexpensive digital baht processing system yet, as it would likely have to be a phone based scanning system for smaller market and street vendors to use. It's not exactly Japan where they are much more likely to know how to use and secure their cryptos. In Hong Kong every $500 and $1000 note is slippef under a small ultraviolet scanner nearby the till at almost every shop and convenience store. Quick and simple point of sale check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 the russian have the big money to pay for the expensive hotels it seems.the big spending tourist they want not the brits because maybe poorer. or honest.fake money must help them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Duck Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, SpeakeasyThai said: Dumb. 1,000 notes always attact attention. I have lost count of the times when presenting a 1,000 note Thai's do not have the change for it, and usually end up running around to their mates gathering up the change therefore bringing ubwanted attention and more than likely scrutinising the 1,000 note. A clever approach would have been to replicate 500 or even 100 notes. You just can't buy common sense. Agreed, in the USA the most common counterfeit bills are $20's. I recall a taxi driver tried to pass me a counterfeit ฿500 bill, as change. There was no front face on it. I deducted ฿100 from his unmetered fare, when he complained, I said lets call the police. He left quickly when I took out my cell. 5555 Edited September 19, 2017 by Grumpy Duck Forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Deli said: Times were good before 1989 Not only in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 "Shegelov had other incriminating items in his possession including a Citizen watch and two sales slips." What can I imagine with the 2 sales slips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 "Shegelov had other incriminating items in his possession including a Citizen watch and two sales slips." What can I imagine with the 2 sales slips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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