webfact Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Villagers mount macabre protest against biomass power plant By Thanapat Kijjakosol The Nation SA KAEW: -- To protest against the construction of a sugar factory and 60-megawatt biomass power plant, residents of three villages in Tambon Wang Mai, Wang Somboon district, Sa Kaew province, this week erected protest signs made of cloth used to wrap corpses at their homes and at various sites in their communities. The protest signs read: “We don’t want sugar factory-biomass power plant”, “Factory=Water pollution” and “We raise milk cattle, we don’t want factory”. The protest followed community visits by factory personnel last week meant to push the project forward despite the Office of Natural Resources and Environmental Policy and Planning’s rejection of the third environmental impact assessment draft report on August 30. Villagers said they did not want the sugar factory and biomass power plant to be built near their communities and milk cattle cooperatives, because it would affect milk production as well as the cultivation of mangoes for export and off-season longans. Residents said they had a petition to submit to the King and would file a complaint with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha and related agencies about the project. Longan farmer Maneeroj Jongsomjit said villagers put up the protest signs made of cloth used to wrap corpses to signify that if the project goes ahead, it would be the death of the community. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30327120 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-09-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Lets see... do they grow sugarcane in that tambon?! If they do, then what the hell are they complaining about!!! If they are growing sugarcane, rice or anything else that needs to be processed then they should also accept that there are factories doing the processing in the area! This is the same as people complaining about traffic in the area because of a factory... that friends and family work and make their living there doesn't matter as the traffic is disturbing their piece! The same where I live, there is a big factory and people are complaining about it... 40 years ago when they founded the factory there were no people living in the area!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Kasset Tak said: Lets see... do they grow sugarcane in that tambon?! If they do, then what the hell are they complaining about!!! If they are growing sugarcane, rice or anything else that needs to be processed then they should also accept that there are factories doing the processing in the area! This is the same as people complaining about traffic in the area because of a factory... that friends and family work and make their living there doesn't matter as the traffic is disturbing their piece! The same where I live, there is a big factory and people are complaining about it... 40 years ago when they founded the factory there were no people living in the area!!! So because people are not so ignorant as to not understand the environmental impact that will occur as it has in your locality that they are wrong? Should they just bow down to the corporate/cartel domination ? So often I see comment about apathy from the Thai population but this is a situation where the local habitants are initiating protest on very valid concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: visits by factory personnel last week meant to push the project They're not going to even ask Prayut to invoke Article 44? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 What is there to complain about......there must be sugar cane being grown or there would not be the need for a sugar mill. 60MW of sustainable renewable power...where is the problem? I should add I've been in the sugar industry for 20 years. A modern mill can be very efficient and non polluting, is practically carbon neutral, and provides employment and technical (think electrical/instrumentation, PLC and computer systems, condition monitoring) training opportunities for many. It also provides external opportunities for transport, harvesting and a myriad of material and service providers. It is also a major export commodity adding to the country's balance of trade. When you have 1.2 billion people practically living on your doorstep who WILL want more sugar in the future, you'd have to be crazy not to go for it. Lets not forget about the production of ethanol as a substitute for imported oil and a lot of research has been done into developing a plastics industry based on sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: So because people are not so ignorant as to not understand the environmental impact that will occur as it has in your locality that they are wrong? Should they just bow down to the corporate/cartel domination ? So often I see comment about apathy from the Thai population but this is a situation where the local habitants are initiating protest on very valid concerns. As far as I can see the peoples only concerns are growing mangoes and possible water pollution. You will usually find sugar and mango production go hand in hand - they both need similar climatic conditions so this concern is based on a fallacy. Water pollution could be a problem for a poorly managed operation. But not in a well designed and operated factory - in fact effluent can be reduced to zero....yes zero. Another option is use to use factory water (sugar mills produce a lot of water - cane is over 70% water by weight) is to use it for farm irrigation - quite a common practice - and farmers love it as it allows them to irrigate during the dry season when the cane is still growing at no cost to them. Like most emotive arguments it basically comes down to two things - resistance to change and easily led people by environmental activists (or tossers if you prefer) who do not have the people's interests at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, tryasimight said: What is there to complain about Answered. "The protest followed community visits by factory personnel last week meant to push the project forward despite the Office of Natural Resources and Environmental Policy and Planning’s rejection of the third environmental impact assessment draft report on August 30." What did ONREP see that caused them to reject the EIA? Wouldn't that cause you some concern not knowing why a seemingly beneficial project should fail an EIA? Complaints are about government arrogance and disregard for public concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Answered. "The protest followed community visits by factory personnel last week meant to push the project forward despite the Office of Natural Resources and Environmental Policy and Planning’s rejection of the third environmental impact assessment draft report on August 30." What did ONREP see that caused them to reject the EIA? Wouldn't that cause you some concern not knowing why a seemingly beneficial project should fail an EIA? Complaints are about government arrogance and disregard for public concerns. I have no idea. I have not read the EIA. Have you? But a rejection is not unusual - it just means the proposal needs more work - and rightly so, nobody wants unnecessary negative environmental impacts, but it is a fact of life that anything we do, anything, affects the environment in one way or another. That includes rice, mango and milk production. Sustainable development and the environment can go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, tryasimight said: Sustainable development and the environment can go hand in hand. Yes, they can in a society where there are checks & balances against government abuse of power. Not when the government has absolute power and deems itself unaccountable to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 13 hours ago, tryasimight said: As far as I can see the peoples only concerns are growing mangoes and possible water pollution. You will usually find sugar and mango production go hand in hand - they both need similar climatic conditions so this concern is based on a fallacy. Water pollution could be a problem for a poorly managed operation. But not in a well designed and operated factory - in fact effluent can be reduced to zero....yes zero. Another option is use to use factory water (sugar mills produce a lot of water - cane is over 70% water by weight) is to use it for farm irrigation - quite a common practice - and farmers love it as it allows them to irrigate during the dry season when the cane is still growing at no cost to them. Like most emotive arguments it basically comes down to two things - resistance to change and easily led people by environmental activists (or tossers if you prefer) who do not have the people's interests at heart. The "possibilities " you outline are quite correct. But if this processing plant is situationally convenient for taking advantage of cross border cheap product and actually not compliant with environmental controls re' waste water or anything else as may have been detrimentally evidenced by other owned processing units in other locations then it could come down to the often ignored factor over and above the two things you advocate. Not everybody is simply resistant to change, easily led by environmentalists or greedy corporates , (tossers aside!) People who willingly bow down to big money never have any ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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