Attention No tourist entry in the future in Thailand?

[chiangmai1978]

The holder of this passport travels to thailand under a tourist visa serval times which may result in the refusal of a visa in the future.

This stamp i found today after receiving my tourist visa in laos vientianne at the Thai embassy. Does anyone knows what this means now?

Does it mean that Visa on Arival by airplane will also be refuse in the future? What will happen if i travel back to germany and in couple of month again to thailand by airplane?

Will i not get a Visa on Arrival which is also a tourist visa in the future?

 

Here the backround of the story.  I am german and have a 10 years passport. It is valid for 2 years more. Every year specially in the winter times i travel to Thailand and 

extend my visa in laos vientainne at the Thai Embassy by apply a tourist visa. Until now i never had problems until last week when i received my passport with the new tourist visa and a very small stemp in english in the corner under the tourist visa that says ``The holder of this passport travels to thailand under a tourist visa serval times which may result in the refusal of a visa in the future.`´

 

Does it mean also that Visa on Arival by airplane will also be refuse in the future? 

Does it mean also that if i go to a thaischool for ED Visa to learn thai that it will be also refuse in the future at the thai embassy in laos?

What should i do now?

Do anyone have experienced that situation and found a solution?

 

Thanks

 

[ubonjoe]

That stamp is only for getting another tourist visa in Vientiane.

It will have no effect on being able to enter the country in the future or getting another tourist visa at most other locations.

[chiangmai1978]

Thank you so much. 

[BritTim]

If you get a new passport, this will negate the effect of that red stamp. In the future, try to spread you visa applications around different locations, just 2-3 in each consulate. That will make it much less likely that you will experience the red stamp issue.

[JackThompson]

The stamp means that Vientiane has now blacklisted your current passport.  They just count up your Thai tourist-visas in the passport, without consideration of how long you were out of the country between them.  On the upside, they don't require plane-tickets, bank-statements, and other things which other Thai Consulates in the region require - so this thoughtless-stamp (completely inaccurate, in your case - 'frequently' does not apply) is the trade-off.

 

Note that Vientiane would not issue me a SETV because of a similar stamp from Phnom Penh, Cambodia - so that stamp may affect your ability to get Tourist Visas from other consulates.  In places like Penang, it may involve paying some "extra money" for an agent to get it for you.

 

If you get a new passport before returning to Thailand, you can go back to Vientiane or anywhere for another Tourist Visa (3 or 4), before getting another stamp like that one.  Although Thai Immigration will see your full history of ins/outs at the border, Consulates are not currently using that database, so just count what they see physically-present in your passport.

 

Also - the stamp will have no effect on getting an ED Visa - even from Vientiane; just Tourist Visas.

[lkv]

1 hour ago, JackThompson said:

 They just count up your Thai tourist-visas in the passport, without consideration of how long you were out of the country between them. 

So would you say they only count the ones issued by them or the total number of SETVs?

[BritTim]

23 minutes ago, lkv said:

1 hour ago, JackThompson said:

 They just count up your Thai tourist-visas in the passport, without consideration of how long you were out of the country between them. 

So would you say they only count the ones issued by them or the total number of SETVs?

In Vientiane, they typically only count those issued by them, though there was a report of them also taking account of those issued in Savannakhet. The policy in other consulates, of course, can be and often is different.

[lkv]

Just now, BritTim said:

In Vientiane, they typically only count those issued by them, though there was a report of them also taking account of those issued in Savannakhet. The policy in other consulates, of course, can be and often is different.

 

Yeah, just trying to clarify what Jack was saying, it could be misinterpreted.

 

I returned from Vientiane with a fresh SETV on Wednesday, it being the 6th in this passport, the second from Vientiane (had another last year), and had none from Savanakhet.

 

All good, no red stamp.

[lkv]

Just that we are on this topic, which ones take into account the total number? Phnom Pehn and who else?

[JackThompson]

2 minutes ago, lkv said:

Just that we are on this topic, which ones take into account the total number? Phnom Pehn and who else?

Note that my experience was that Vientiane will deny based on 'warnings' from Phnom Penh (but Savanakhet did not).  I don't know if Phnom Penh cares about 'warnings' from Vientiane.

[lkv]

2 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Note that my experience was that Vientiane will deny based on 'warnings' from Phnom Penh (but Savanakhet did not).  I don't know if Phnom Penh cares about 'warnings' from Vientiane.

How many previous visas have you had from Vientiane in that passport? 

[HooHaa]

why wouldnt the OP just apply for a touris visa in home country and cut out all the nonsense.

 

I have friends who spend 3 to 6 months in thailand annually without issue.

they come with their visas already arranged. None of them have ever had an issue.

[JackThompson]

34 minutes ago, lkv said:

How many previous visas have you had from Vientiane in that passport? 

Only One from Vientiane (no remark).  That one was followed by some other TVs from elsewhere, including Two from Phonm Penh, and the 2nd one from PP got the 'remark'.

[JackThompson]

37 minutes ago, HooHaa said:

why wouldnt the OP just apply for a touris visa in home country and cut out all the nonsense.

 

I have friends who spend 3 to 6 months in thailand annually without issue.

they come with their visas already arranged. None of them have ever had an issue.

Tourist Visa ... "to 6 months" ... only with an METV.  That visa requires a lot of "nonsense" to get, especially where "proof of a job" is required, which is difficult when one has the financial freedom to spend up to 6 months away.