How Can I Find the True Owner?

[hdkane]

Hello,

 

I located a small plot of land that would make a nice investment.  However, neighbors do not know who owns the parcel.  What is the procedure to identify the true owner? Once I have a name, how can I find them (e.g., phone number)? Thanks for any advice.

[cornishcarlos]

We are just about to do the same...

Starting at the land office, they should know :)

After that ?

[thailand49]

When you find out, ask your wife to make the call regarding the land.

[JBChiangRai]

Privacy laws mean the land office is not allowed to tell you. Of course the usual way is to “lubricate” that process with a gift.

[RBOP]

Is the land in the country side? Might be Land Reform (Sor Por Kor) in which case can not be sold. Start at the land office in the district where the parcel of land is located. I've never heard of privacy laws concerning land ownership but you may have to pay for the title search.

[baansgr]

Obtain the Chanote numbers from the adjoining plots and ask at land office for the owners name. Finding them is another story. Also, you said you feel it would make a nice "investment"....as you are approaching them to purchase they will probably want top Dollar to sell, making the nice investment not so appealing.

[cornishcarlos]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Privacy laws mean the land office is not allowed to tell you. Of course the usual way is to “lubricate” that process with a gift.

 

Now where did you get that info from ? Maybe a link to said law would be good...

We found out in about 5mins... No gifts required, just our land title which is joined to the plot in question...

 

Now just a small matter of tracking down the owner and persuading them that they really need to sell it to us :)

[cornishcarlos]

6 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Obtain the Chanote numbers from the adjoining plots and ask at land office for the owners name. Finding them is another story. Also, you said you feel it would make a nice "investment"....as you are approaching them to purchase they will probably want top Dollar to sell, making the nice investment not so appealing.

 

This is very true... We have a small plot, about 30m x 25m, that joins another plot of 30m x 10m... Lady wants to sell as she needs money..

Because we are the only likely candidates to buy it, we offered the same price we paid for our plot. Nope, she wants 3 times the value !! 

 

Guess she'll still be needing money next month ?

[GreasyFingers]

14 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

This is very true... We have a small plot, about 30m x 25m, that joins another plot of 30m x 10m... Lady wants to sell as she needs money..

Because we are the only likely candidates to buy it, we offered the same price we paid for our plot. Nope, she wants 3 times the value !! 

 

Guess she'll still be needing money next month ?

No she will still be needing the money in 2-3 years. We have looked at many properties over the last 2 years, all with a farang price, and not one of them has been sold, even those that really need the money.

[digger70]

1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Now where did you get that info from ? Maybe a link to said law would be good...

We found out in about 5mins... No gifts required, just our land title which is joined to the plot in question...

 

Now just a small matter of tracking down the owner and persuading them that they really need to sell it to us :)

If you track the owner down Ask him if he got the Chanote Legale or thru corrupt agents or corrupt officials.... Just thinking,,,,,

one must be very careful,There has been a lot of this going on.

[Xaos]

You can't own land.

Better invest in BTC

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[mike324]

 

5 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Now where did you get that info from ? Maybe a link to said law would be good...

We found out in about 5mins... No gifts required, just our land title which is joined to the plot in question...

 

Now just a small matter of tracking down the owner and persuading them that they really need to sell it to us :)

 

Yes you can easily find it at the land office. If land officers don't help, perhaps you need to offer them couple hundred baht. Sometimes there is no phone number listed, only name of owners. What you will need to do is go to TOT and ask them to look up the phone numbers for you (this part is not legal, but again couple hundred baht will fix it).

 

If TOT doesn't list any numbers, that most likely they are old and off the grid.

[MyFriend You]

11 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

This is very true... We have a small plot, about 30m x 25m, that joins another plot of 30m x 10m... Lady wants to sell as she needs money..

Because we are the only likely candidates to buy it, we offered the same price we paid for our plot. Nope, she wants 3 times the value !! 

 

Guess she'll still be needing money next month ?

The lady that sold us our homestead ppty wouldn't sell me the plot behind the house,  I asked again following year and Nope wouldn't sell.  Then one year she approached my lady and offered to sell it to me for three times what mine cost.........of course I said NO.  Five years later she came again and I offered $10,000 lower than what mine cost and she agreed.  Took her eight years to change her mind, but she needed money.  You just have to wait them out.