webfact Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Toddler shoots two children at Michigan home (Reuters) - A toddler shot and wounded two 3-year-old children with a handgun at a Michigan home where a woman was babysitting several youngsters, police and local media said on Thursday. The shooting on Wednesday in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn occurred after the toddler got access to a handgun, Dearborn police said in a statement. One of the children was shot in the shoulder and was expected to make a full recovery. The other child was in serious but stable condition, the police statement said, without providing other details. Police have interviewed the woman who was babysitting several children, the Dearborn Free Press reported. Specially trained officials interviewed some of the toddlers who witnessed the shooting. Investigators will meet with the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office to discuss whether charges should be filed, police said in the statement. A representative for Dearborn police did not immediately return calls seeking additional comment. (Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis in Los Angeles; Editing by Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-09-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Kid got his street cred early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: The shooting on Wednesday in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn occurred after the toddler got access to a handgun, Dearborn police said in a statement. So US police & reporters are no better than Thai Police & reporters when it comes to stating the obvious!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: Kid got his street cred early. Payback for sandbox diss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 If only the other two kids had guns, they could have defended themselves! 'Murica! RIP and and I hope the parents of all kids have the strength to deal with this disaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterTee Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The babysitter should be charged with criminal incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 2 hours ago, wirat69 said: So US police & reporters are no better than Thai Police & reporters when it comes to stating the obvious!!! It would be correct if the baby sitter shot the two kids and then planted the gun on the toddler. Strange things happen in Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, DM07 said: RIP You might want to read the OP again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 And will anything change? Nah, not with the NRA on the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Comment on moderation removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, attrayant said: You might want to read the OP again. Sorry...my bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 US rednecks will still stand and say the 2nd Amendment protects the right of ALL Americans (yes, even toddlers) to wield guns. .....even tho the 2nd Amendment was only referring to local militias with smoothbore muskets. Right Wingers have twisted the 2nd Amendment to appear to provide rights which it doesn't provide. The same mega-easily-duped people who voted for Trump, are the same mega-easily-duped people who believe the 2nd Amendment asserts something it doesn't state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: even tho the 2nd Amendment was only referring to local militias with smoothbore muskets And "well-regulated" to boot. Heck, I'll even throw in a sword, and a cannon (open-carry?). I'm surprised a "toddler" even knows how to discharge a hand-gun, and since two children were wounded, I'm assuming Jr. got off at least two rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: US rednecks will still stand and say the 2nd Amendment protects the right of ALL Americans (yes, even toddlers) to wield guns. .....even tho the 2nd Amendment was only referring to local militias with smoothbore muskets. Right Wingers have twisted the 2nd Amendment to appear to provide rights which it doesn't provide. The same mega-easily-duped people who voted for Trump, are the same mega-easily-duped people who believe the 2nd Amendment asserts something it doesn't state. And yet all the redneck huckybillies that see the 2nd amendment as being vital to their existence as it is part of the cherished constitution, and most of whom will be Trump voters, don't think the first amendment is worth crap at the moment, especially if it is exercised by a black. Why I am quite sure most of them think the only time a black should be on their knees is when they are begging for their life. If you must keep a handgun in the home at least keep a 9 mm WITHOUT a round in the chamber. The chances of a child being able to cock and fire a 9 mm are extremely small. Revolvers are an insane weapon to leave around any building that has children in it. I just thank God the child in question had not been coached by their Mother or Father to be a better shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 49 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: And "well-regulated" to boot. Heck, I'll even throw in a sword, and a cannon (open-carry?). I'm surprised a "toddler" even knows how to discharge a hand-gun, and since two children were wounded, I'm assuming Jr. got off at least two rounds? Now that's a good point at the end. I guess one round would be sufficient with a small child to exit one and enter the other. I guess we will be given the details soon enough when the lobbying arm of the NRA make sure everyone has the story straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Guns don't kill people, toddler's do. What a disgusting culture and society they've got over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 3 hours ago, MisterTee said: The babysitter should be charged with criminal incompetence. Surely the owner of the gun should be prosecuted as, apparently it was so easily available? 48 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: And "well-regulated" to boot. Heck, I'll even throw in a sword, and a cannon (open-carry?). I'm surprised a "toddler" even knows how to discharge a hand-gun, and since two children were wounded, I'm assuming Jr. got off at least two rounds? Agree entirely with the last para. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mtls2005 said: I'm surprised a "toddler" even knows how to discharge a hand-gun, and since two children were wounded, I'm assuming Jr. got off at least two rounds? Allow me to enlighten you to the second amendment retarded States of America. I often wondered what is worse than hardcore porn and I have just discovered it. WARNING For those of you with a shred of humanity and civilisation within you this is difficult to watch. Hmm maybe I am the villain for showing my daughter how to rear chickens and grow orange trees from seedlings and take happy snaps of those activities. Maybe I need to leave her with some snaps as a child when she is packing some automatic weapons. Edited September 29, 2017 by Andaman Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 8 hours ago, MisterTee said: The babysitter should be charged with criminal incompetence. Why? Do you don't know where the gun was or how the kid got the gun? And now you tell something like this? Maybe the father put the gun under a pillow and the kid found it and played around. Babysitters can't see everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The toddler... Yeah, right! Good luck for the family's cat (if they had one) that it wasn't there at the time, otherwise the headline would read: "Vicious pet shot kids..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 5 hours ago, snowgard said: Why? Do you don't know where the gun was or how the kid got the gun? And now you tell something like this? Maybe the father put the gun under a pillow and the kid found it and played around. Babysitters can't see everything. Maybe the father shouldn't have a hand gun in the house. Nor should anyone else. 35,000 people a year loose their lives from guns in that country yet the corrupt politicians and courts permit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 6 hours ago, snowgard said: Why? Do you don't know where the gun was or how the kid got the gun? And now you tell something like this? Maybe the father put the gun under a pillow and the kid found it and played around. Babysitters can't see everything. She isn't a babysitter she runs a day care, Therefore she should know about anything and everything in the house that could be a danger to a child and remove that danger. However I would also go after the gun owner, it's their gun they are responsible for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, ericthai said: She isn't a babysitter she runs a day care I was thinking that might be the case - "Woman", "several children", didn't sound like my 14 year old sister who used to look after a couple of neighbours' kids for pocket money. 12 minutes ago, ericthai said: However I would also go after the gun owner, You know, America being the gun crazy country it is, it's even possible the kid brought the gun with him from home; unlikely, but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, ericthai said: She isn't a babysitter she runs a day care, Therefore she should know about anything and everything in the house that could be a danger to a child and remove that danger. However I would also go after the gun owner, it's their gun they are responsible for it. I don't know the laws in Michigan, but day care facilities are licensed by the state. If you take care of a certain number of children, unrelated to you, then you are required to have a license. To get the license, there is a safety inspection of the home/facility, a medical check on the provider and any staff and in some states, training is provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajarTheLion Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 20 hours ago, MisterTee said: The babysitter should be charged with criminal incompetence. Not so fast. Perhaps she was unaware of the gun in the house. I would sooner look to the parents and specifically how they had the weapon stored. I'm not dismissing a look at the babysitter, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Perhaps the toddler brought the gun. Does the child care facility have a metal detector at the door and a security guard to check all bags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, halloween said: Perhaps the toddler brought the gun. Does the child care facility have a metal detector at the door and a security guard to check all bags? Nah, they don't need a metal detector, just a very big magnet and those little ones will stick right to it if they are packing heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Another reason that guns should be regulated much better in the USA and any country in the world for that matter. Charge the gun owner for sure and ban them from owning any firearm for at least 10 years. Geezer Edited September 30, 2017 by Stargrazer9889 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajarTheLion Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 20 hours ago, pegman said: Maybe the father shouldn't have a hand gun in the house. Nor should anyone else. 35,000 people a year loose their lives from guns in that country yet the corrupt politicians and courts permit them. Yes, it's because we have something called the Second Amendment. Bad things happen in free countries. One can always choose to live in other, more heavily regulated countries like Singapore if that is more to their liking. The basic problem in the United States is lack of accountability- from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowryder Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Maybe if the children that got shot would have had guns that they could have taken control of the situation? At least the other one could have shot the toddler before the toddler got him/her. Irresponsible of the parents to leave the kids unarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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