Advertorial Oh My Aching Back!! Dr Chase of Thaichiro explains

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Oh My Aching Back!! Dr Chase of Thaichiro explains

 

 

Back pain is the number #1 health complaint in the world.  

 

According to the world health organization, about 10% of the general population suffer with low back pain.  

 

That means that worldwide, hundreds of millions of people suffer with this complaint.  

 

Combine this with those suffering with neck pain and mid back pain, as well as those burdened with other consequences of spine irritation, such as headaches, shoulder pain, leg numbness and pain, knee pain, and weakness, and there could be over a billion people worldwide suffering the effects of spine dysfunction.   Over 90% of these people don’t need surgery or strong medications.

 

Their main problem is spinal mechanical dysfunction resulting from accidents and injuries, but mainly from poor posture and muscle imbalance.  

 

Taking medications, while seeming to relieve the symptoms, do nothing for the underlying cause and can even make you drug dependent.  And just doing exercises may also lead to more dysfunction because of underlying imbalance.

 

At the natural healing center our focus is on not only on relieving your symptoms, be they pain, numbness or weakness, but more importantly to work toward fixing the underlying cause of your complaint.  

 

Our licensed professionals work with you to help you understand the reasons why you ended up unwell and give you strategies to help you avoid illness in the future.  

 

Our care is very safe, comfortable and affordable. And if you need other care, we will readily make that clear to you.  

Contact us at: 094-949-614(e), 02-639-7300(t) or visit us at our website at www.thaichiro.com to learn more about how we can help you!

[Sue Ferguson]

Well I don't know how you can say that chiropractic doesn't help. I was scheduled for neck surgery and went to see the doctors at The Natural Healing Centre on the recommendation of a friend of mine for a second opinion. They examined me and reviewed my MRI and told me there was a good chance his care could help. I was skeptical but agreed to try. I was amazed! after only 5 treatments my neck pain disappeared and I was able to sleep through the night. I cancelled my surgery! I have since brought in my friend with knee pain and he is doing much better too.

So don't tell me chiropractic doesn't help. It sure helped me!

[Pinot]

4 hours ago, Sue Ferguson said:

Well I don't know how you can say that chiropractic doesn't help. I was scheduled for neck surgery and went to see the doctors at The Natural Healing Centre on the recommendation of a friend of mine for a second opinion. They examined me and reviewed my MRI and told me there was a good chance his care could help. I was skeptical but agreed to try. I was amazed! after only 5 treatments my neck pain disappeared and I was able to sleep through the night. I cancelled my surgery! I have since brought in my friend with knee pain and he is doing much better too.

So don't tell me chiropractic doesn't help. It sure helped me!

That's incidental. Chiropractic and acupuncture simply do not pass the scientific methods for saying they work. Both are useless. They cannot be proven to work. This is a sponsored post, they don't want to hear the truth. In fact, both are a waste of money.  

[thaichiro]

On ‎10‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 6:16 PM, Pinot said:

That's incidental. Chiropractic and acupuncture simply do not pass the scientific methods for saying they work. Both are useless. They cannot be proven to work. This is a sponsored post, they don't want to hear the truth. In fact, both are a waste of money.  

Well, tell that to the US military, Olympic and professional sports teams around the world, and millions of satisfied users. The US military, for example, already has "scientifically proven" medical care, but after 10 years of research they were convinced that chiropractic care improved outcomes with lower cost and greater satisfaction. Recent studies have also validated chiropractic's effectiveness. And, Pinot, you might also be interested to know that Chiropractors have wayyy lower malpractice rates than your "scientific" medicine. So stop being Groucho and be happy with your new information...

In fact, our happiest patients were typically the biggest doubters.

[Jonathan Fairfield]

An off topic post with unfounded claims has been removed

[Pinot]

On 10/6/2017 at 9:57 PM, thaichiro said:

Well, tell that to the US military, Olympic and professional sports teams around the world, and millions of satisfied users. The US military, for example, already has "scientifically proven" medical care, but after 10 years of research they were convinced that chiropractic care improved outcomes with lower cost and greater satisfaction. Recent studies have also validated chiropractic's effectiveness. And, Pinot, you might also be interested to know that Chiropractors have wayyy lower malpractice rates than your "scientific" medicine. So stop being Groucho and be happy with your new information...

In fact, our happiest patients were typically the biggest doubters.

I stand by my statement. Scientific studies have never proven the efficacy of chiropractic methods. Not studies conducted by paid sponsors but true scientific medical studies. Spine manipulation simply has no place in getting a patient well. Sorry, but that's the truth. Incidental stories of people getting better is not scientific proof. 

[Just Weird]

On 10/5/2017 at 1:51 PM, Sue Ferguson said:

Well I don't know how you can say that chiropractic doesn't help. I was scheduled for neck surgery and went to see the doctors at The Natural Healing Centre on the recommendation of a friend of mine for a second opinion. They examined me and reviewed my MRI and told me there was a good chance his care could help. I was skeptical but agreed to try. I was amazed! after only 5 treatments my neck pain disappeared and I was able to sleep through the night. I cancelled my surgery! I have since brought in my friend with knee pain and he is doing much better too.

So don't tell me chiropractic doesn't help. It sure helped me!

The ad is not saying that chiropractors can't help, chiropractors wrote the OP!  It is saying that medicine and surgery is not always the answer and that seeing a chiropractor may help.  It is in complete agreement with what you say! 

[Just Weird]

On 10/6/2017 at 9:57 PM, thaichiro said:

Well, tell that to the US military, Olympic and professional sports teams around the world, and millions of satisfied users. The US military, for example, already has "scientifically proven" medical care, but after 10 years of research they were convinced that chiropractic care improved outcomes with lower cost and greater satisfaction. Recent studies have also validated chiropractic's effectiveness. And, Pinot, you might also be interested to know that Chiropractors have wayyy lower malpractice rates than your "scientific" medicine. So stop being Groucho and be happy with your new information...

In fact, our happiest patients were typically the biggest doubters.

"And, Pinot, you might also be interested to know that Chiropractors have wayyy lower malpractice rates than your "scientific" medicine."

Of course they do, that's because there are much lower number of chiropractors than there are doctors.

 

I received chiropractic treatment for lower back pain years ago in England that appeared to help (but then, so did a massage) but a link to the report that the US military is officially convinced of it's effectiveness would be useful, do you have that?

 

I'm curious as to why in your comment to Pinot you refer to proven medical treatment as your 'scientific' medicine, are you disputing the fact that modern medicine is scientifically proven to work?  If you are, then your credibility really goes down the drain.

[thaichiro]

16 hours ago, Just Weird said:

"And, Pinot, you might also be interested to know that Chiropractors have wayyy lower malpractice rates than your "scientific" medicine."

Of course they do, that's because there are much lower number of chiropractors than there are doctors.

 

I received chiropractic treatment for lower back pain years ago in England that appeared to help (but then, so did a massage) but a link to the report that the US military is officially convinced of it's effectiveness would be useful, do you have that?

 

I'm curious as to why in your comment to Pinot you refer to proven medical treatment as your 'scientific' medicine, are you disputing the fact that modern medicine is scientifically proven to work?  If you are, then your credibility really goes down the drain.

Hey "Just Weird", thanks for responding. To answer YOUR comments.... first to your observation about malpractice rates. The rates are set by actuaries based on statistics relating to the number of malpractice claims and the financial settlements. These relate the number of practitioners to the number of claims and payouts. It doesn't matter that there are more MD's than DC's...it just matters what the relative claims and payouts of each category is determined to be. And according to those numbers, chiropractic is relatively SAFER than medicine...WAYYY safer. It is not to say that I am rejecting medicine...my brother and sister are both MD's...but rather to answer those who claim that chiropractic is dangerous.

As for the "scientific" moniker, the point was to highlight the fact that in spite of claiming to be scientific, and by extension well researched and safe, medicine does have a rather dubious record of safety...with the BMJ ranking medical mistakes as the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.

As for your request for info on the US military usage of Chiropractic, I refer you to a 2016 study entitled: Assessment of chiropractic treatment for active duty U.S. military personnel with low back pain. This study was published by the National Center for Biotechnology Information, the National Library of Medicine, and the National institutes of Health. The study compared medical care for active military with backaches, with chiropractic care. To quote their conclusion, "Improvement in pain and disability were SIGNIFICANTLY greater in the chiropractic care group".

Again, thanks for responding. Please let me know if I can be of further help. 

[thaichiro]

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 7:27 PM, Pinot said:

I stand by my statement. Scientific studies have never proven the efficacy of chiropractic methods. Not studies conducted by paid sponsors but true scientific medical studies. Spine manipulation simply has no place in getting a patient well. Sorry, but that's the truth. Incidental stories of people getting better is not scientific proof. 

Pinot, there are many studies showing the benefits of chiropractic. Perhaps the study done and published by the National Center for Biotechnology Information, the National Library of Medicine and the NIH in 2016 entitled "Assessment of Chiropractic Treatment for Active Duty U.S. Military Personnel With Low Back Pain" might answer your need for scientific validity. The significant finding was "Improvement in pain and disability were SIGNIFICANTLY greater in the chiropractic care group." over the medical approach. There are many others as well. 

I hope this helps fill in the knowledge gap. Please let me know if you have any other questions.

[Pinot]

This is advertising that was paid for.

 

Google "Chiropractic does not work" 

 

Money line:

"Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever regardless of what your chiropractic (deluded, gullible or otherwise) tells you."

[xylophone]

On 04/10/2017 at 12:04 PM, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Their main problem is spinal mechanical dysfunction resulting from accidents and injuries, but mainly from poor posture and muscle imbalance.  

Poor posture and muscle imbalance has affected me over the years, resulting in back and neck pain, which was certainly helped after visits to physiotherapists and one guy in Auckland who was a spinal manipulative physiotherapist (very close to a chiropractor I believe?).

 

After suffering three months of agony with lower back pain and being unable to walk properly because of it, along with visits to doctors and the hospital to get x-rays of the spine and pelvis area, I got no relief and was pretty desperate.

 

After three visits to the spinal manipulative physiotherapist, I was completely "cured" and have never experienced anything like that again.

 

As I said I'm not sure if this is related to chiropractic practices, however I do believe that muscle imbalance plays a huge part in back and neck pain, and if these guys can help with it, then I'm all for it.

[thaichiro]

22 hours ago, Pinot said:

This is advertising that was paid for.

 

Google "Chiropractic does not work" 

 

Money line:

"Chiropractic works only as an expensive placebo, it being based on spurious, fabricated notions about disease and the spine and joints that have absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever regardless of what your chiropractic (deluded, gullible or otherwise) tells you."

So what you're saying is that you do not accept reputably published research but would rather repeat incorrect and uninformed drivel put out by a tv show known more for its poor financial advice and apparently, if your quote is to be believed, equally poor health advice. Well, that says it all about YOUR judgement. Oh, and just because it is advertising (which was clearly stated in the publication as an advertorial!) doesn't make the material untrue. Like I said to a medical doctor who wanted to get rid of chiropractic, just get the people well...they come to me after failing to get results from you! And REAL statistic show that their satisfaction and recovery rates accede those of relevant medical care for non-surgical back complaints...with way fewer side effects Why do I bother talking facts with someone who clearly isn't interested and has a definite hate agenda. If you HAD an open mind I would be delighted to discuss the matter further.

[thaichiro]

21 hours ago, xylophone said:

Poor posture and muscle imbalance has affected me over the years, resulting in back and neck pain, which was certainly helped after visits to physiotherapists and one guy in Auckland who was a spinal manipulative physiotherapist (very close to a chiropractor I believe?).

 

After suffering three months of agony with lower back pain and being unable to walk properly because of it, along with visits to doctors and the hospital to get x-rays of the spine and pelvis area, I got no relief and was pretty desperate.

 

After three visits to the spinal manipulative physiotherapist, I was completely "cured" and have never experienced anything like that again.

 

As I said I'm not sure if this is related to chiropractic practices, however I do believe that muscle imbalance plays a huge part in back and neck pain, and if these guys can help with it, then I'm all for it.

Xylophone, I really dig your vibes...yes, it is true that muscle imbalance plays a huge part in most back complaints, and just taking meds may not address this problem. Also, engaging in exercise, when the muscle imbalance and spinal fixations and nerve irritation that usually come with it are still in effect, may end up further damaging the back.  I'm not sure about the education background of your manipulative physio, but I imagine that their approach may be similar to chiropractic. I'm glad you are doing well!