Video: Mother with baby in arms doing Ya Ba "reflects Thai society"

[webfact]

Video: Mother with baby in arms doing Ya Ba "reflects Thai society"

 

Picture: Manager Online

 

Comment was rife online about problems in Thai society after a Thai man posted video of a young mother taking Ya Ba with her infant child in her arms.

 

Manager said in their headline that it was "indicative of a society that is sick".

 

The clip was widely shared across social media from the "Monthon Thongkham" site.

 

It showed two women taking the drug along with the post of a man who asked people to share the story and find those responsible.

 

The poster said he came across the scene at his grandmother's house. He said that the one holding the baby was the child's mother.

 

He said that the child was even inhaling the vapor from the drug. He claimed the woman concerned had beaten up an old person.

 

A report has been made to the police.

 

Many people online commented about the video saying it reflected problems in Thai society, said Manager.

 

Source: Manager Online

 

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[baboon]

33 minutes ago, webfact said:

Manager said in their headline that it was "indicative of a society that is sick".

Not really. It is indicative that the mother is sick. How can the society be sick when so many of them are reacting with horror? 

[moe666]

There are weak people like this every where never a dy goes by without some mother, dad, or both over doseing in the car with kids in the back seat, or 20 people being killed by a gunmen. Now that is sick or a very mentally ill society

[greenchair]

The more they harass, incriminate, arrest and ridicule addicts, the worse the problem will be. Sick Addicts are forced underground and the laws make it impossible for them to get help. This young mother needs help, support and education to help her out of her addiction. Unfortunately society would rather rip the child from her arms and put him in an orphanage with hundreds of other boys and no parental love. Then place his mother in another overcrowded  prison for years with no rehabilitation or help. 

That is the indicative sickness of society not only in Thailand but around the world. 

[Get Real]

2 hours ago, greenchair said:

The more they harass, incriminate, arrest and ridicule addicts, the worse the problem will be. Sick Addicts are forced underground and the laws make it impossible for them to get help. This young mother needs help, support and education to help her out of her addiction. Unfortunately society would rather rip the child from her arms and put him in an orphanage with hundreds of other boys and no parental love. Then place his mother in another overcrowded  prison for years with no rehabilitation or help. 

That is the indicative sickness of society not only in Thailand but around the world. 

If you feel any responsibility for your own and your childrens life, you will not turn into an addict fron alcohol or any other drugs.
People that can´t understand that, should have their children ripped away. They are not fit to be parents.

[Tradewind777]

38 minutes ago, Get Real said:

If you feel any responsibility for your own and your childrens life, you will not turn into an addict fron alcohol or any other drugs.
People that can´t understand that, should have their children ripped away. They are not fit to be parents.

Thankfully you don’t make the laws in regard to this matter.

[Pat in Pattaya]

I saw a young Mother recently holding her baby while playing badminton on concrete floor. I thought that was bad enough!

[Get Real]

39 minutes ago, Tradewind777 said:

Thankfully you don’t make the laws in regard to this matter.

Yes, I suppose your thankfully is regarding all the children that gets to suffer because of people thinking like you.

[connda]

Looks staged.

 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Tradewind777 said:

Thankfully you don’t make the laws in regard to this matter.

I hope you don't have any kids.

[stubuzz]

Addicts are usually using drugs to dull the pain of something. This could be a loss or a breakup or even realization that they have no education or work skills and are destined to live in poverty for the rest of their lives.

[greenchair]

5 hours ago, Get Real said:

If you feel any responsibility for your own and your childrens life, you will not turn into an addict fron alcohol or any other drugs.
People that can´t understand that, should have their children ripped away. They are not fit to be parents.

Extensive studies have shown that most people don't turn into addicts, they are made into addicts. They do not choose to be addicts, but are compelled to be addicts. I have several friends and 2 brothers that were addicts. With a lot of assistance and proper care they can get clean around 30 to 40 years old. After that they often contribute much much more to society than most people. She is very young, with a little assistance, a small apartment, a part time job and some education classes she would be a great mum. 

You are quite ignorant to the reality of the world. 

[Get Real]

12 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Extensive studies have shown that most people don't turn into addicts, they are made into addicts. They do not choose to be addicts, but are compelled to be addicts. I have several friends and 2 brothers that were addicts. With a lot of assistance and proper care they can get clean around 30 to 40 years old. After that they often contribute much much more to society than most people. She is very young, with a little assistance, a small apartment, a part time job and some education classes she would be a great mum. 

You are quite ignorant to the reality of the world. 

Sure I am ignorant! I live in the real world, man. Scary to read your comment.
With a little bit of assistance. We have to give her an apparment, and off course somebody have to give her a job too. Education off course. Why I don´t think about that. How stupid I must be.
Okey, take it from this side. I did not have somebody give me a job. I had to find that myself. I cared about my education in school, and continued educate myself to create mine and now my families future. I also had to find a place to live and stay, see to that I could pay my rent. I did not get any extra assistance, more than a cared for childhood. I didn´t turn junkie or addicted just because I didn´t have help with all thoose things. Why is that? I really do think that people are born with some back bone. 

Rest my case, because you just came up with the most stupid explaination and solution ever. A person must can take care of their own life. Period!

[wolfmuc]

25 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Sure I am ignorant! I live in the real world, man. Scary to read your comment.
With a little bit of assistance. We have to give her an apparment, and off course somebody have to give her a job too. Education off course. Why I don´t think about that. How stupid I must be.
Okey, take it from this side. I did not have somebody give me a job. I had to find that myself. I cared about my education in school, and continued educate myself to create mine and now my families future. I also had to find a place to live and stay, see to that I could pay my rent. I did not get any extra assistance, more than a cared for childhood. I didn´t turn junkie or addicted just because I didn´t have help with all thoose things. Why is that? I really do think that people are born with some back bone. 

Rest my case, because you just came up with the most stupid explaination and solution ever. A person must can take care of their own life. Period!

Scary comment, may be. But that's life.

And with a little help (for my friends) we all could improve so many things.

(Of course, depending on the situation and the people...)

Might avoid so many disasters.

--- Have a good night. ---

 

As connda already said: 'Looks staged.'

[HerbalEd]

13 hours ago, baboon said:

Not really. It is indicative that the mother is sick. How can the society be sick when so many of them are reacting with horror? 

When she is one of hundreds-of-thousands of yaba users/addicts, it's indicative of a sick society.

[halloween]

7 hours ago, greenchair said:

Extensive studies have shown that most people don't turn into addicts, they are made into addicts. They do not choose to be addicts, but are compelled to be addicts. I have several friends and 2 brothers that were addicts. With a lot of assistance and proper care they can get clean around 30 to 40 years old. After that they often contribute much much more to society than most people. She is very young, with a little assistance, a small apartment, a part time job and some education classes she would be a great mum. 

You are quite ignorant to the reality of the world. 

I somehow doubt that addicts contribute more to society than those with a 10-20 year start on them. Addicts start with a deficit caused by their years of addiction.

[greenchair]

9 hours ago, Get Real said:

Sure I am ignorant! I live in the real world, man. Scary to read your comment.
With a little bit of assistance. We have to give her an apparment, and off course somebody have to give her a job too. Education off course. Why I don´t think about that. How stupid I must be.
Okey, take it from this side. I did not have somebody give me a job. I had to find that myself. I cared about my education in school, and continued educate myself to create mine and now my families future. I also had to find a place to live and stay, see to that I could pay my rent. I did not get any extra assistance, more than a cared for childhood. I didn´t turn junkie or addicted just because I didn´t have help with all thoose things. Why is that? I really do think that people are born with some back bone. 

Rest my case, because you just came up with the most stupid explaination and solution ever. A person must can take care of their own life. Period!

Well the anwser is in your statement " I did not get extra assistance, more than a cared for childhood " it sounds like you had a very supportive family that educated you well and plenty of assistance until you reached the age of educated adult. Studies have proven almost 100 percent of addicts come from broken families, physical abuse, sexual abuse, addicted parents, abandoned by parents, low education. It always amazes when people say I did it by myself. Only to hear, my parents paid for me to finish education, my parents helped me get a loan for my first house, my parents helped me start my business, my parents help take care of the grandchildren. 

You did not do it by yourself with no assistance. You had great family support. 

[Get Real]

34 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Well the anwser is in your statement " I did not get extra assistance, more than a cared for childhood " it sounds like you had a very supportive family that educated you well and plenty of assistance until you reached the age of educated adult. Studies have proven almost 100 percent of addicts come from broken families, physical abuse, sexual abuse, addicted parents, abandoned by parents, low education. It always amazes when people say I did it by myself. Only to hear, my parents paid for me to finish education, my parents helped me get a loan for my first house, my parents helped me start my business, my parents help take care of the grandchildren. 

You did not do it by yourself with no assistance. You had great family support. 

Yeah, they died when I was 14. Let´s see how much you know now. Keep on spreading your BS.

[Ahab]

The choices you make in life have consequences, and should have consequences. Don't care about school, education, working hard, getting pregnant, or doing drugs, don't be surprised when you are poor and have little opportunity. I very firmly believe that there should be consequences for the choices one makes, and those consequences should not include someone else "giving" you an apartment, or "giving" you a job, when you chose wrongly. 

 

Bad choices in life should be painful, otherwise it seems stupid to "do the right thing" and make wise decisions in life.

[Kieran00001]

15 hours ago, Get Real said:

Yes, I suppose your thankfully is regarding all the children that gets to suffer because of people thinking like you.

 

Having a higher level of thought for addicts that you appear capable of does not make one the cause.

[212Roger]

And I got banned for a few weeks for bad mouthing Thai's for doing Ya Ba!  The truth is the truth.  Don't filter the news.

[Get Real]

5 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Having a higher level of thought for addicts that you appear capable of does not make one the cause.

It+s not about one. I am sure you know that there are far to many out there. BS!

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, Get Real said:

It+s not about one. I am sure you know that there are far to many out there. BS!

 

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.  When I said one, I meant the one doing the thinking, the person you tried to blame for someones addiction.

[ELVIS123456]

9 hours ago, greenchair said:

Well the anwser is in your statement " I did not get extra assistance, more than a cared for childhood " it sounds like you had a very supportive family that educated you well and plenty of assistance until you reached the age of educated adult. Studies have proven almost 100 percent of addicts come from broken families, physical abuse, sexual abuse, addicted parents, abandoned by parents, low education. It always amazes when people say I did it by myself. Only to hear, my parents paid for me to finish education, my parents helped me get a loan for my first house, my parents helped me start my business, my parents help take care of the grandchildren. 

You did not do it by yourself with no assistance. You had great family support. 

I think your responses to this issue are valid when applied at the family level, but your views are a complete screw-up when applied at the Govt level.  With the support of family and friends, I too know of people that have 'escaped' from drugs, but also some that have not.

 

What pisses me and many people off in the western world is the attempt by the Govt to use taxpayers money to 'reward' drug addicts by taking the place of family/friends they dont have (or who are also addictys).  We are not against helping people who need/want help. 

 

I know of many people, and have seen many many more, that have no intention of ever leaving their drug dependencies, because to do so would mean they lose Govt 'support'.  Govt 'support' has led to generations of people with little/no incentive to improve their own lives by taking control and accepting it is their own responsibility.

 

The solution (IMO) is to give tax incentives and funding to charities to support and look after those in need.  There is NIL evidence that Govt supporting people (a safety net) does anything more (over a large number of people) than create the situation whereby more people dont try to 'climb'.  The creation of a safety net actually stops people climbing - why should they bother??  Start taking drugs and that is your general attitude - why bother? Get Govt support and free stuff (housing/money/etc etc) and the drugged brain says 'why bother AND why lose all this stuff too'.  Some people take almost a lifetime to realise that this attitude is wrong - and many never do.

 

So yes, I sympathise with individual people's problems and would like to help any family member or friend.  But no, over a populace I do not, and would not, and strongly believe that the Govt should stop helping - it clearly is not working. 

 

What was that line from Yes Minister.    XXXX Council has the least number of social issues, BECAUSE they have no Social Workers. 

 

Families and Friends can help and often do - direct Govt 'support' usually does not.  The Govt should help families and friends, and surrogate charity organisations,  but it should not directly support the drug addicted - they only make it worse and drag things out for longer than is often needed.