Democrats win bitter Virginia governor's race in setback for Trump

[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

ergo Trump. It took a while to get there but the theorem is now proved. Thanks for playing.

You know, before I was pretty sure you're a concern troll. But now that you used this classic rightwing deflection, I'm sure of it. It just took a little prodding to make you out yourself.

Edited November 9, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[lannarebirth]

13 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

You know, before I was pretty sure you're a concern troll. But now that you used this classic rightwing deflection, I'm sure of it. It just took a little prodding to make you out yourself.

It seems your password isn't all you've lost. I'm a little hurt that you haven't read any of my posts these past 18-24 months.

[attrayant]

24 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

I'm a little hurt that you haven't read any of my posts these past 18-24 months.

 

Hurt.  You mean concerned?

[attrayant]

Anyway, here's a snapshot of all the red seats that went blue.  That's some amazing diversity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2017 by attrayant

[lannarebirth]

8 minutes ago, attrayant said:

Anyway, here's a snapshot of all the red seats that went blue.  That's some amazing diversity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

In other news... Washington Senate shifts Democrat with single seat win (by a Sikh female), leading to Democrat control of both houses and Governer's seat. African refugee wins mayoral race in Helena MT. 

Edited November 9, 2017 by lannarebirth

[Jingthing]

Good news for a change! Worth savoring for a moment anyway. 

trump is still in power. We've only just begun. 

This will have an effect. As is well known, trump hasn't passed even one major piece of legislation. He's banking on his tax "cut cut cut" scam.

That try is going to be further weakened now by these recent elections. Republicans are going to feel it's safer to be less loyal to him now. 

The truth is there are elements of tax reform that both parties can agree on. Will this result in a decent, bipartisan bill? Probably not, but the plot has thickened. 

[Jingthing]

Say it IS so, Joe  ... 

 

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/928113140730130432

 

Edited November 9, 2017 by Jingthing

[wabothai]

there is hope !!!

[boomerangutang]

.....and all these positive changes happened despite intense gerrymandering by Republican politicians.  Some districts look like splashed milk on a corrugated roof.  Even the Supreme Court weighed in, opining that the redistricting was ridiculously partisan.

[Thakkar]

15 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

That is the more significant fact to take away from the election. All the ballyhoo about the governor's race is about the Democrats merely retaining a governorship. It is the down ballot victories where the tide begins to turn.

You are right that the down ballot results are more pertinent. But Northam’s win is also fairly telling. He won by an almost 10 point margin. The previous Dem governor had won by a mere 2 point margin.

 

Even more pertinent for America’s future direction are the following facts:

 

First out-lesbian delegate in the state
First Asian American woman delegate in the state
First two Latina delegates in the state
First Democratic Socialist candidate in the state

The first Transgender delegate defeated the 2-decade incumbent who wrote the despicable bathroom bill.

 

Also pertinent as a periscope into the future are these wins in other states:

 

A gun victim's boyfriend beat a delegate with an "A" grade from the NRA.

 

A civil rights lawyer who sued the police department just became the top prosecutor in Philadelphia. 

 

North Carolina elected 6 more openly LGBTQ elected leaders. There will now be 19 across the state in various offices.

 

The NJ lawmaker who memed “Will the Women’s March be over in time for them to cook dinner?” unseated by Woman’s Marcher

 

Lilly white Montana’s capital elected its first black mayor—a refugee, no less.

 

St. Paul, Minnesota also elected its first Black mayor.

 

Granted, these are mere budding signs, but they make me hopeful for the future.

[Skywalker69]

 

[Jingthing]

45, predictably, in denial.

 

 

 

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Reality bites Trump

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CNN exit polling found voters considered the election a referendum on Trump and their decision reflected the President's plummeting approval figures. More and more it seems the President stands alone, wounded by reality and bleeding credibility.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/08/opinions/trump-reality-opinion-dantonio/index.html

[Jingthing]

Go on Joe!

 

 

[lannarebirth]

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

45, predictably, in denial.

 

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/08/opinions/trump-reality-opinion-dantonio/index.html

Interestingly it was the "Our Revolution" backed candidates of Bernie Sanders that had the best showings and not the monied DNC corporatists.

[Thakkar]

4 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

Interestingly it was the "Our Revolution" backed candidates of Bernie Sanders that had the best showings and not the monied DNC corporatists.

 

Give it a rest, please.

You sound like those Russian posters trying exacerbate divisions. Most, if not all progressives are happy with the results. The diversity and broadness of the wins is a joy to behold—share in that joy in a smug-free manner. As far as I can tell, HRC supporters see no fly in this ointment.

 

If the results can be taken as a barometer for the future, that future is Progressive (with a capital ‘p’), diverse, and inclusive, and a rejection of Trump style divisiveness. 

 

Pay homage to Bernie by rejecting divisiveness.

[lannarebirth]

25 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

Give it a rest, please.

You sound like those Russian posters trying exacerbate divisions. Most, if not all progressives are happy with the results. The diversity and broadness of the wins is a joy to behold—share in that joy in a smug-free manner. As far as I can tell, HRC supporters see no fly in this ointment.

 

If the results can be taken as a barometer for the future, that future is Progressive (with a capital ‘p’), diverse, and inclusive, and a rejection of Trump style divisiveness. 

 

Pay homage to Bernie by rejecting divisiveness.

 

You mean reject devisivness,....uh...starting nooow! I'm all for that but that's not going to happen until the wound gets cleaned. As an homage to b'tang I'm going to suggest you want to clean out the puss first if you want to to rid yourself of the infection. Let the healing begin!

 

Read the part about donations to various entities and defined donation limits and where the money ended up. Tell me if that seems like rackateering and money laundering to you. Not to mention illegal as pertains to Federal election laws. If it helps to see it, insert Trumps name in where Clinton's appears.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-state-cash-concerns-226191

Edited November 10, 2017 by lannarebirth

[boomerangutang]

It's official:  Republican voters can tolerate pedophilia and treason,  but they can't handle a a private email server (but it's fine when Pence, Jared, Ivanka are found to have alternative email servers).

 

I half expect a Bible-thumping Republican to say:  "Sure, if you're a Republican and you want to rape my 14 year old daughter, or send secret messages to Russia using Russian agents, that's fine.   But don't, by any means, ever use an email server that's not secured by the NSA, even if it's to write to a friend about what color pants suit to wear to a cocktail party."

 

 

[mikebike]

9 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

Give it a rest, please.

You sound like those Russian posters trying exacerbate divisions. Most, if not all progressives are happy with the results. The diversity and broadness of the wins is a joy to behold—share in that joy in a smug-free manner. As far as I can tell, HRC supporters see no fly in this ointment.

 

If the results can be taken as a barometer for the future, that future is Progressive (with a capital ‘p’), diverse, and inclusive, and a rejection of Trump style divisiveness. 

 

Pay homage to Bernie by rejecting divisiveness.

Wait... did you just conflate the DNC with HRC? The poster WAS talking about the DNC and his point is valid. YOU assumed DNC = HRC very telling, and exactly what progressives are pissed at the corporist DNC about. I really see no path to the inclusion of republican-flavored democrats in a movement towards a progressive DNC.

[Thakkar]

42 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Wait... did you just conflate the DNC with HRC? The poster WAS talking about the DNC and his point is valid. YOU assumed DNC = HRC very telling, and exactly what progressives are pissed at the corporist DNC about. I really see no path to the inclusion of republican-flavored democrats in a movement towards a progressive DNC.

I assume that when Bernie supporters use terms like “monied DNC Corporatist” they include HRC. As a Bernie supporter myself, I certainly would.

 

My point was that HRC supporters are embracing these victories and not lamenting the fact that the majority are representatives of the Bernie wave. I detect no bitterness among Democratic citizens that the old Dem structures are flaying.

 

These are solid Progressive wins, and since HRC supporters are unreservedly embracing these wins, we Bernie supporters should embrace them rather than alienate them by needlessly scratching those scabs.

 

Divisions among liberals guarantees another win for Trump or, even worse, Pence.

[Skywalker69]

1 hour ago, boomerangutang said:

It's official:  Republican voters can tolerate pedophilia and treason,  but they can't handle a a private email server (but it's fine when Pence, Jared, Ivanka are found to have alternative email servers).

 

I half expect a Bible-thumping Republican to say:  "Sure, if you're a Republican and you want to rape my 14 year old daughter, or send secret messages to Russia using Russian agents, that's fine.   But don't, by any means, ever use an email server that's not secured by the NSA, even if it's to write to a friend about what color pants suit to wear to a cocktail party."

 

 

Rex Tillerson reassigns 'hundreds' of State Department employees to search for Hillary Clinton dirt

 

https://thetrumpimpeachment.com/Rex-Tillerson-reassigns-39-hundreds-39/index.html

[Slip]

11 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

I assume that when Bernie supporters use terms like “monied DNC Corporatist” they include HRC. As a Bernie supporter myself, I certainly would.

 

My point was that HRC supporters are embracing these victories and not lamenting the fact that the majority are representatives of the Bernie wave. I detect no bitterness among Democratic citizens that the old Dem structures are flaying.

 

These are solid Progressive wins, and since HRC supporters are unreservedly embracing these wins, we Bernie supporters should embrace them rather than alienate them by needlessly scratching those scabs.

 

Divisions among liberals guarantees another win for Trump or, even worse, Pence.

Very true.  While there does seem to be a level of animosity between Hillary supporters and Bernie's on the social networks, the recent victories were unanimously celebrated from what I have seen.  

[attrayant]

14 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

Rex Tillerson reassigns 'hundreds' of State Department employees to search for Hillary Clinton dirt

 

 

And as a result, he is helping to destroy the State Dept in a way that may not be repairable for many years to come.

 

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Secretary Tillerson’s term has led to widespread demoralization in the foreign service, the dismissal or resignation of people with expertise that individually may not be irreplaceable but as a cohort certainly becomes so.  That hinders the State Department’s ability to enhance US interests through diplomacy.

 

 

[Thakkar]

1 hour ago, Slip said:

Very true.  While there does seem to be a level of animosity between Hillary supporters and Bernie's on the social networks, the recent victories were unanimously celebrated from what I have seen.  

 

As a regular A-hole on social networks, I can attest to the fact that it’s easy to be an A-hole on social networks. As much as wags like to state that it is a reflection of the real world, it isn’t. 

 

Nevertheless, the online hatred between Hillary supporters and Bernie supporters needs to stop. The debates should certainly continue, but these debates (not arguments) need to be based on data and over specific policies, not personalities.

[boomerangutang]

1 hour ago, Skywalker69 said:

Rex Tillerson reassigns 'hundreds' of State Department employees to search for Hillary Clinton dirt

https://thetrumpimpeachment.com/Rex-Tillerson-reassigns-39-hundreds-39/index.html

It must have been an order by his brain-addled boss.  Tillerson, like all other cabinet members, doesn't have an independent thought in his Deputy Dawg skull.  If the prez told them to eat dog shit off the Oval Office floor, they'd be down on their knees in a Texas minute.  Sessions would be asking for seconds, with an impish brownish grin.

[Thakkar]

12 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

It must have been an order by his brain-addled boss.  Tillerson, like all other cabinet members, doesn't have an independent thought in his Deputy Dawg skull.  If the prez told them to eat dog shit off the Oval Office floor, they'd be down on their knees in a Texas minute.  Sessions would be asking for seconds, with an impish brownish grin.

 

Thanks for clarifying *which* boss, because Putin is also his boss.

[lannarebirth]

5 hours ago, Slip said:

Very true.  While there does seem to be a level of animosity between Hillary supporters and Bernie's on the social networks, the recent victories were unanimously celebrated from what I have seen.  

 

That's because the HRC contingent is still running the DNC and still appointing corporate lobbyists and Super Pac funders as superdelegates. These victories happened in spite of the DNC not because of it. Celebrations by the DNC afterwards are merely in expectation of stronger money flows.

Edited November 10, 2017 by lannarebirth

[lannarebirth]

4 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

As a regular A-hole on social networks, I can attest to the fact that it’s easy to be an A-hole on social networks. As much as wags like to state that it is a reflection of the real world, it isn’t. 

 

Nevertheless, the online hatred between Hillary supporters and Bernie supporters needs to stop. The debates should certainly continue, but these debates (not arguments) need to be based on data and over specific policies, not personalities.

Policies somewhat, definitenly not personalities. I think it is more to do with criminality and ethos and many are sickened by it. People can disagree, accept defeat gracefully and support the victor; but not if disagreements stem from immorality and illegality and an unlevel playing field. Name the problem, deal with the consequences of that, fix it and move on.

Edited November 10, 2017 by lannarebirth

[lannarebirth]

 

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Trump opposition inspires Dem focus on statehouse wins

 

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — President Donald Trump said he would "drain the swamp" in Washington. Progressives are hoping to make good on that vow, leveraging anti-Trump feeling to limit corporate influence in statehouses across the country.

They point to what just happened in Virginia, where Democrats rode a backlash against the president to sweeping victories. The surprise winners in House races include some first-time politicians who vowed never to take contributions from the state's most powerful corporation......................

Whether that vision gets dashed after the opening of January's session remains to be seen. Republicans still control the state Senate, and Democratic legislators have yet to resolve many of the tensions over corporate influence on their party that played out between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in last year's presidential race.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-opposition-inspires-dem-focus-statehouse-wins-070419670.html

[lannarebirth]

Time for a little OT levity:

 

 

[selftaopath]

On 11/10/2017 at 6:38 PM, Thakkar said:

I assume that when Bernie supporters use terms like “monied DNC Corporatist” they include HRC. As a Bernie supporter myself, I certainly would.

 

My point was that HRC supporters are embracing these victories and not lamenting the fact that the majority are representatives of the Bernie wave. I detect no bitterness among Democratic citizens that the old Dem structures are flaying.

 

These are solid Progressive wins, and since HRC supporters are unreservedly embracing these wins, we Bernie supporters should embrace them rather than alienate them by needlessly scratching those scabs.

 

Divisions among liberals guarantees another win for Trump or, even worse, Pence.

I despise the current VP and POTUS, but could you help me see how Pence would be worse than 45? I will/hope both to be gone but believe 45 is a/b the worst thing this country has ever experienced.

Thanks.