How to find out if.....

[Somtamnication]

my multiple entry Non O is invalid. 

 

I received it in June. September I had to go to KL to get a B as the employer was too lazy to ask immigration how to make the Non O to be a valid visa to work and get a work permit.

 

I got a single entry B.

 

Nowhere on the Non O sticker is there a cancellation stamp.

 

Savanakhet does not answer emails.

 

Any other ideas?

[elviajero]

If the 'enter before' date hasn't passed, and the visa hasn't been stamped as used/cancelled, then it's still valid.

[BritTim]

48 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

I got a single entry B.

 

Nowhere on the Non O sticker is there a cancellation stamp.

When you reentered Thailand, was the Non B marked used? Is there an annotation on the entry stamp of any kind indicating the visa used for entry? Did you put the Non B visa number on the TM6 form?

 

As long as the Non B was used by the immigration official when you entered, the still valid Non O visa (while unusual) is a benefit to you, not a problem. It should still be possible to do a one-year extension of stay based on working. (Of course, even if you entered on the Non O, that should still be possible at most immigration offices.) If the employment does not work out, and the Non O is still unexpired, you will be able to use it to come back to Thailand.

[overherebc]

Just to add, generally Imm' offices always quote Non B for a WP which is wrong.

The labour offices are the ones who know. I worked until retired with WP's issued while holding a Non O multi entry visa for 10 years.

It means, on a multi entry O visa based on being married and issued from an Embassy/Consulate outside Thailand that you have to leave and re-enter Thailand every 90 days.

Work permits are issued by the labour offices and the requirement is a Non Immigrant visa ( 0 or B ) or an extension of stay issued by Immigration ( which is not a visa ) and requires 90 reports at Immigration by yourself or your employer.

[Somtamnication]

Non B is stamped USED. The Non O is not stamped.

[ubonjoe]

You can still use the non-o visa for entry to the country up to the enter before date on it if needed.

[Jip99]

13 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

Non B is stamped USED. The Non O is not stamped.

 

 

Surely a a single entry Non- O gets stamped as used ?

[elviajero]

12 hours ago, BritTim said:

As long as the Non B was used by the immigration official when you entered, the still valid Non O visa (while unusual) is a benefit to you, not a problem.

Whether or not the non 'B' was used is irrelevant to the validity of the non 'O'. Until the non 'O' has expired or is cancelled it's still valid.

 

If both visas were still valid then an IO could cancel either.

[BritTim]

2 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

Non B is stamped USED. The Non O is not stamped.

Perfect. You have the Non O to fall back on if the employment does not work out.

[Autonuaq]

non o with workpermit works ,and can be extended

 

Non b is just the employer want to be able to cancel wp and know it has effect on visa.  Labour office know this too and will advise to use non o

 

You can have non o and non b at the same time.

 Only problem is always enter with the non o when have both

The visa used at entree is that is for stay.

 

[Somtamnication]

On 11/11/2017 at 7:18 AM, Jip99 said:

 

 

Surely a a single entry Non- O gets stamped as used ?

As I stated, it is a multiple O.

[Techno Viking]

12 hours ago, Autonuaq said:

non o with workpermit works ,and can be extended

 

Non b is just the employer want to be able to cancel wp and know it has effect on visa.  Labour office know this too and will advise to use non o

 

You can have non o and non b at the same time.

 Only problem is always enter with the non o when have both

The visa used at entree is that is for stay.

 

Cancelling a work permit does not affect a Non B visa if it is still valid.

 

 

[BritTim]

57 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

13 hours ago, Autonuaq said:

non o with workpermit works ,and can be extended

 

Non b is just the employer want to be able to cancel wp and know it has effect on visa.  Labour office know this too and will advise to use non o

 

You can have non o and non b at the same time.

 Only problem is always enter with the non o when have both

The visa used at entree is that is for stay.

 

Cancelling a work permit does not affect a Non B visa if it is still valid.

That is true if using multiple entry Non B and doing border runs every 90 days. However, if you use the work permit to get an extension of stay on the basis of working, the extension ceases to be valid as soon as your employment ceases. On the other hand, if your extension is to stay with your Thai spouse, whether or not you are employed has no effect on the validity of your extension.

[Techno Viking]

10 minutes ago, BritTim said:

That is true if using multiple entry Non B and doing border runs every 90 days. However, if you use the work permit to get an extension of stay on the basis of working, the extension ceases to be valid as soon as your employment ceases. On the other hand, if your extension is to stay with your Thai spouse, whether or not you are employed has no effect on the validity of your extension.

Yeah, permission to stay extension was not what was being discussed, but thanks for the reply anyways.