Should A Woman Be Allowed to hold the office of President of the USA?

[riclag]

4 hours ago, helpisgood said:

So, what's your point? 

 

In your last paragraph, you mention "contributing to the state debt."  How much of a contribution?  More than half?  Less than 1%?  That sounds like weasel words to me. 

 

And yet, you bother to quote in that Wikipedia article that local govt. likes sanctuary cities because they reduce the crime rate.  So, does that also "contribute" to the state's debt?

 

The very last sentence is the only part that makes sense; thus, should be the entire post.

What are "weasel" words?

I have no clue what your talking about in reference to my Wikipedia article?

How much do illegals in CA cost the state = 30.3 billion a year for the state .

How much in taxes do they pay in CA = 3 billion

How much do they send back to their countries of origin = Billions

 

https://www.nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/21/costs-illegal-immigration-california/

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article148209019.html

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2017 by riclag

[helpisgood]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

What are "weasel" words?

I have no clue what your talking about in reference to my Wikipedia article?

How much do illegals in CA cost the state = 30.3 billion a year for the state .

How much in taxes do they pay in CA = 3 billion

How much do they send back to their countries of origin = Billions

 

https://www.nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/21/costs-illegal-immigration-california/

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article148209019.html

 

 

 

You don't know what weasel words are?  Really?  Okay:

 

"A weasel word, or anonymous authority, is an informal term for words and phrases aimed at creating an impression that a specific or meaningful statement has been made, when instead only a vague or ambiguous claim has actually been communicated."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word

 

Why did I refer to your use of Wikipedia?  Under the first paragraph of your post (no. 17), which is a long quote,  is a link to Wikipedia defining "sanctuary city."  I can't believe I have to explain this. 

 

So, you've quoted the National Economics Editorial?  Who are they?:

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-economics-editorial/

 

Oh, I see.  It's a far right-wing rag.  Not interested.   

 

 

 

[helpisgood]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

What are "weasel" words?

I have no clue what your talking about in reference to my Wikipedia article?

How much do illegals in CA cost the state = 30.3 billion a year for the state .

How much in taxes do they pay in CA = 3 billion

How much do they send back to their countries of origin = Billions

 

https://www.nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/21/costs-illegal-immigration-california/

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article148209019.html

 

 

 

Why did I refer to your use of Wikipedia?  (Sorry, now I understand your point.)  The quote mentions the benefits of sanctuary cities.  So, does that not add contradict your point?

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, helpisgood said:

Why did I refer to your use of Wikipedia?  (Sorry, now I understand your point.)  The quote mentions the benefits of sanctuary cities.  So, does that not add contradict your point?

"In the United States a sanctuary city  is a city that limits its cooperation with the national government effort to enforce immigration law".

 

I'm in favor of immigration laws.I have no use for cities and states that refuse to co-op with the feds . I have no tolerance for states and cities that want Federal subsidies and refuse cooperating with Federal laws

It's apparent you have a different opinion. 

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[USPatriot]

9 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

A story about some who have changed their mind, and others who are still determined to cross.  The fact that some have changed their minds just means Trump isn't doing anything to MAG.

I lived in Arizona and I'm telling you it is way down.

They don't change their mind unless they know they will be deported.

 

The biggest exodus of illegals was 9/11/2001

 

They went home when america was attacked.

 

 

[helpisgood]

12 hours ago, riclag said:

"In the United States a sanctuary city  is a city that limits its cooperation with the national government effort to enforce immigration law".

 

I'm in favor of immigration laws.I have no use for cities and states that refuse to co-op with the feds . I have no tolerance for states and cities that want Federal subsidies and refuse cooperating with Federal laws

It's apparent you have a different opinion. 

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You have either changed your point or did not elucidate it well.  Although, the more cynical side of me suspects that you have abandoned your original point as being a loser and have instead clutched on to a new issue.

 

Your post no. 17, the one I had originally referred to, focuses on state debt and economic health, and not issues regarding federalism.  Thus, it would have been impossible for me to express an opinion either way now that you have a new point.

 

Ostensibly, I can see the merits of your point regarding local and state cooperation with the feds.  However, the OP states that a federal judge has issued an opinion that is apparently contrary to your own.  The OP quotes the judge as follows:

 

"The Counties have demonstrated that the Executive Order has caused and will cause them constitutional injuries by violating the separation of powers doctrine and depriving them of their Tenth and Fifth Amendment rights."

 

Do you, thus, have an opinion has to how this does not violate the separation of powers doctrine  and how Trump's executive order does not deprive the Counties of their Tenth and Fifth Amendment rights?  Accompanying citations to case law, etc. would be appreciated. 

Edited November 23, 2017 by helpisgood
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[Langsuan Man]

I can't wait for the chart that shows Trumps many Executive Order failures

 

As I have stated before, he shouldn't have filled the swamp with so many Goldman Sachs Alumni but recruited more from Harvard Law 

 

Pretty obvious that whoever is drafting his Orders doesn't understand the US Constitution since every legal challenge, so far,  has been on Constitutional grounds 

[DM07]

On 11/22/2017 at 10:37 AM, Thakkar said:

Illegal alien = rapist. Got it.

Just look at the troll's name....

[billd766]

On 22/11/2017 at 9:45 AM, greatwhitenorth said:

 

No walking down the street minding your own business, results in going to the emergency ward.

 

I figured you wouldn t want help.  555

 

Are you are assuming that being shot, stabbed assaulted, raped, murdered or robbed every time, it is an illegal alien perpetrating the crime and not some person or persons who are legal citizens of the USA?