Trump refers to a 'Pocahontas' in Congress at meeting with veterans

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Trump refers to a 'Pocahontas' in Congress at meeting with veterans

By Jeff Mason

 

U.S. President Donald Trump hosts an event honouring the Native American code talkers, including Thomas Begay (L) and Peter McDonald, in front of a painting of President Andrew Jackson, at the White House in Washington, U.S., November 27, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said there was a "Pocahontas" in the U.S. Congress on Monday during a meeting with Native American World War Two veterans in an apparent derogatory reference to Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.

 

After listening to one veteran speak at length about his experience as a "Navajo code talker" during the war, Trump heaped praise on the veterans and said he would not give prepared remarks himself.

 

"You were here long before any of us were here," Trump said. "Although we have a representative in Congress who they say was here a long time ago. They call her Pocahontas."

 

Trump repeatedly referred to Warren as "Pocahontas," the name of a famous 17th-century Native American, during his presidential campaign in a mocking reference to Warren's having said in the past that she had Native American ancestry.

 

Warren, one of the Senate's most prominent liberal Democrats, is a noted legal scholar who taught at Harvard Law School and served as an adviser to former President Barack Obama before she was elected to the Senate in 2012.

 

"It is deeply unfortunate that the president of the United States cannot even make it through a ceremony honouring these heroes without having to throw out a racial slur," Warren said on MSNBC.

 

White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders disputed the characterization of Trump's remark as a racial slur.

 

"I think what most people find offensive is Senator Warren lying about her heritage to advance her career," Sanders told reporters.

Trump's comment immediately started trending on social media.

 

The word "Pocahontas" appeared 12 times on Twitter every second, according to social media analytics company Zoomph. Some of the words associated with Pocahontas were "insulting," "unfortunate" and "racist."

 

Some Twitter users also criticized the decision to have the Native Americans veterans positioned with Trump near a portrait of Andrew Jackson, who signed the Indian Removal Act as president.

 

Trump's knock at Warren comes as his administration faces a controversy over the Consumer Financial Protection Board, which Warren helped develop before entering politics.

 

The agency, which was established to protect Americans from abusive lending practices following the 2008 financial crisis, has been under attack by Trump since he took office in January. On Friday, Trump named his budget director as the interim head of the agency, after its outgoing chief named someone else to the job, setting up a court battle.

 

(Reporting by Jeff Mason; additional reporting by Doina Chiacu and Angela Moon; Editing by Leslie Adler and Tom Brown)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-28

[Get Real]

Next time he will probably choose Mickey Mouse, Goofy and Hiawata. Good that he go back to refer to cartoons and old history, because todays political situations he should sheild himself as much as possible from.

[Boon Mee]

The mockery is well-justified.  She obtained a no-show $200 K USD per year job on the basis of a lie.

That she was of Native American extraction.

Listen how the liberals howl when they are ought out, eh? 

[jackh]

Gotta love this guy! 

[Credo]

1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

The mockery is well-justified.  She obtained a no-show $200 K USD per year job on the basis of a lie.

That she was of Native American extraction.

Listen how the liberals howl when they are ought out, eh? 

You might actually want to read the history of Pocahontas.   It is not Warren who is being besmirched, it is an amazing Native American woman by a not very amazing president.   

[nausea]

Interestingly, Donald's and Elizabeth's neanderthal ancestry may well trump Native American in any "I was here first" game; maybe they should start calling each other Tumak and Loanna.

 

"First Americans may have been Neanderthals 130,000 years ago"

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2129042-first-americans-may-have-been-neanderthals-130000-years-ago/

 

Neanderthal ancestry in all European Americans: 1.5–2.1 % 

Native American ancestry in European Americans: 0.18 % ( averaged).

(Source: somewhere on the Net)

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

The mockery is well-justified.  She obtained a no-show $200 K USD per year job on the basis of a lie.

That she was of Native American extraction.

Listen how the liberals howl when they are ought out, eh? 

Please get your facts straight. Stop reading fake news sites like zerohedge and Breitbart!

https://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/warren.asp
 

Quote

 

WHAT'S FALSE

Elizabeth Warren doesn't live in a mansion valued at several million dollars, evidence is contradictory over whether she used false claims of Native American heritage to gain an edge over other candidates for a job at Harvard or drew a large salary for teaching only one class.

 

 

I have a very small percentage of Native American heritage. But enough to claim it and get benefits. My father was born on the reservation.

 

Good for her to claim it. She's got every right to do so.

 

Screw Trump. An absolute dick for using that name. Incredibly disrespectful.

 

My great aunt was called Pokie. Pocahontas was her real name.

[mtls2005]

Honoring Native Americans under/in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson was probably a lot more insensitive than being unable to control oneself by invoking a personal insult unrelated to the event?

 

Press Secretary Sanders defended the insult by calling Sen. Warren "a liar", which in and of itself seems unprofessional, at best.

[craigt3365]

55 minutes ago, jackh said:

Gotta love this guy! 

Sad commentary from supposedly intelligent people. You should be ashamed of your post.

[craigt3365]

3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Honoring Native Americans under/in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson was probably a lot more insensitive than being unable to control oneself by invoking a personal insult unrelated to the event?

 

Press Secretary Sanders defended the insult by calling Sen. Warren "a liar", which in and of itself seems unprofessional, at best.

Sanders is another disgusting individual. Supporting the lies told by Trump.

[retarius]

Personally I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm not aware that Pocahontas is a derogatory term for Native Americans.....if it is, then he obviously should not be using it....but even if it not derogatory, to mock another senator is a bit juvenile. What I don't get is why he would say it in front of Native American Vets.

[PremiumLane]

2 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

The mockery is well-justified.  She obtained a no-show $200 K USD per year job on the basis of a lie.

That she was of Native American extraction.

Listen how the liberals howl when they are ought out, eh? 

If she had lied, and other posters have put link to say she didn't, then you think it is OK for POTUS to use childish and derogatory remarks about her? Kind of shows something about yourself, don't you think?

[Watchful]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

Honoring Native Americans under/in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson was probably a lot more insensitive than being unable to control oneself by invoking a personal insult unrelated to the event?

 

Press Secretary Sanders defended the insult by calling Sen. Warren "a liar", which in and of itself seems unprofessional, at best.

This is what happens when you listen to the "crap" reported as news by CNN.  Andrew Jackson was a complicated man who hated the British more than anything.

 

As for native Americans, he actually came to their aid in the Battle of Talladega.  So terribly sorry life isn't as simple as that corrupt CNN would have you believe,

[johnarth]

thanks to the news media turning and twisting everything that is said so they can sell the news, most of the world is living on lies now, Probably soon everybody will believe Germany was against Hitler going to war. so to say. 

[Watchful]

47 minutes ago, retarius said:

Personally I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm not aware that Pocahontas is a derogatory term for Native Americans.....if it is, then he obviously should not be using it....but even if it not derogatory, to mock another senator is a bit juvenile. What I don't get is why he would say it in front of Native American Vets.

He mentioned Warren because she "appropriated" their culture for her own personal gain.  

[ilostmypassword]

4 minutes ago, johnarth said:

thanks to the news media turning and twisting everything that is said so they can sell the news, most of the world is living on lies now, Probably soon everybody will believe Germany was against Hitler going to war. so to say. 

Or they might end up believing, for example, that the Newtown massacre was a fake or false flag operation. This via Alex Jones' Infowars, one of Donald Trump's favorite and favored sources of "news."

[ilostmypassword]

3 minutes ago, Watchful said:

He mentioned Warren because she "appropriated" their culture for her own personal gain.  

But even if true, what does that have to do with these Navaho people?

[Slip]

9 minutes ago, Watchful said:

This is what happens when you listen to the "crap" reported as news by CNN.  Andrew Jackson was a complicated man who hated the British more than anything.

 

As for native Americans, he actually came to their aid in the Battle of Talladega.  So terribly sorry life isn't as simple as that corrupt CNN would have you believe,

CNN do a lot of 'crap' reporting about Andrew Jackson and 18/19th century war and politics do they? 

[ilostmypassword]

What really shows both the hypocrisy and/or confused thinking of the Trump supporters is that Elizabeth Warren really does oppose corporate dominance of the American political system. You can just google it or look on youtube to see countless examples of this. I doubt very much that a President Warren would appoint Gary Cohn or Steve Mnuchin to her cabinet. Nor would she nominate an anti worker pro big business justice like Neal Gorsuch for a seat on the Supreme Court.

[Watchful]

2 hours ago, Credo said:

You might actually want to read the history of Pocahontas.   It is not Warren who is being besmirched, it is an amazing Native American woman by a not very amazing president.   

 

Nonsense!  Read the article.  Trump referred specifically  "a representative in Congress". He was talking about Warren who "appropriated" native American culture for her own personal gain.

 

I saw an interview of her talking about a portrait of her ancestors who had "very high cheek bones just like Native Americans".  She is a real piece of work, a thorn in Trump's side and he can't resist dishing back.

[ilostmypassword]

18 minutes ago, Watchful said:

This is what happens when you listen to the "crap" reported as news by CNN.  Andrew Jackson was a complicated man who hated the British more than anything.

 

As for native Americans, he actually came to their aid in the Battle of Talladega.  So terribly sorry life isn't as simple as that corrupt CNN would have you believe,

What you don't say about the Battle of Talladega is that he came to the aid of the White Stick Native Americans and  a few white people against the Red Stick Native Americans against whom the army had been waging war.  And to defend Andrew Jackson as a friend of Native Americans after the horrors he inflicted on the Cherokee people is just nonsense. And this is not just applying modern standards to a different era. His actions were widely denounced at the time. As regards native Americans, he was a vicious and unregenerate bigot.

[Watchful]

3 minutes ago, Slip said:

CNN do a lot of 'crap' reporting about Andrew Jackson and 18/19th century war and politics do they? 

No, they just use absolute "crap" to attack Trump, because they know their audience of Trump haters and those suffering from TDS are too stupid to know anything about history.

 

All they know is that Andrew Jackson killed Native Americans and that's true.  What they ignore is those Native Americans were rebels who killed their own people and sided with the British.  Jackson, when the Native Americans asked for his help, came to their assistance.  

[Watchful]

9 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

What you don't say about the Battle of Talladega is that he came to the aid of the White Stick Native Americans and  a few white people against the Red Stick Native Americans against whom the army had been waging war.  And to defend Andrew Jackson as a friend of Native Americans after the horrors he inflicted on the Cherokee people is just nonsense. And this is not just applying modern standards to a different era. His actions were widely denounced at the time. As regards native Americans, he was a vicious and unregenerate bigot.

What you neglect is the Red Sticks killed over 300 of the White Sticks and it was the Red Sticks who were aligned with Jackson's hated British.  Further, it was the White Sticks who asked for his help.

 

Jackson was a very complicated man who lived in times of great upheaval and constantly shifting alliances.  To judge Donald Trump based upon an old portrait is just another of CNN's hit jobs.  Too bad the Clinton News Network is losing big time in the ratings.

Edited November 28, 2017 by Watchful

[Enoon]

38 minutes ago, Watchful said:

This is what happens when you listen to the "crap" reported as news by CNN.  Andrew Jackson was a complicated man who hated the British more than anything.

 

As for native Americans, he actually came to their aid in the Battle of Talladega.  So terribly sorry life isn't as simple as that corrupt CNN would have you believe,

 

No it certainly isn't simple:

He intervened in a civil war between Native Americans:

 

Creek War - Wikipedia

"The Red Stick militancy was a response to the increasing United States cultural and territorial encroachment into their traditional lands. The alternate designation as the Creek Civil War comes from the divisions within the tribe over cultural, political, economic, and geographic matters "

 

Against the faction that was resisting "Americanisation".

At the end of the war he rewarded his "allies" by taking their land and ultimately with the Indian Removal Act

 

SOP for Imperialist Expansionists.

 

"On August 9, 1814, Andrew Jackson forced headmen of both the Upper and Lower Towns of Creek to sign the Treaty of Fort Jackson. Despite protest of the Creek chiefs who had fought alongside Jackson, the Creek Nation ceded 21,086,793 acres (85,335 km²) of land—approximately half of present-day Alabama and part of southern Georgia—to the United States government."

 

"As a result of these victories, Jackson became a national figure and eventually rose to become the seventh President of the United States in 1829. As President, Andrew Jackson advocated the Indian Removal Act, passed by Congress in 1830, which authorized negotiation of treaties for exchange of land and payment of annuities, and authorized removal of the Southeastern tribes to the Indian Territory, west of the Mississippi River."

 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by Enoon

[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, Watchful said:

What you neglect is the Red Sticks killed over 300 of the White Sticks and it was the Red Sticks who were aligned with Jackson's hated British.

No, the point is that it had nothing to do with Jackson being a friend to native Americans. 

[ilostmypassword]

6 minutes ago, Watchful said:

No, they just use absolute "crap" to attack Trump, because they know their audience of Trump haters and those suffering from TDS are too stupid to know anything about history.

 

All they know is that Andrew Jackson killed Native Americans and that's true.  What they ignore is those Native Americans were rebels who killed their own people and sided with the British.  Jackson, when the Native Americans asked for his help, came to their assistance.  

Nice try. It isn't just about Jackson killing Native Americans. Maybe you should look the "Trail of Tears" to understand how truly horrid he was.

[craigt3365]

27 minutes ago, Watchful said:

This is what happens when you listen to the "crap" reported as news by CNN.  Andrew Jackson was a complicated man who hated the British more than anything.

 

As for native Americans, he actually came to their aid in the Battle of Talladega.  So terribly sorry life isn't as simple as that corrupt CNN would have you believe,

CNN  isn't corrupt. Please don't say that. It's trolling and not true.

 

P.S. This is a news report from Reuters, not CNN. And the comments about Jackson came from Twitter users, not CNN.

[greatwhitenorth]

 

American's must be ashamed and humiliated by the face their President shows the rest of the world. 

 

A disrespectful narcissist leads the free world now

[craigt3365]

26 minutes ago, Watchful said:

He mentioned Warren because she "appropriated" their culture for her own personal gain.  

That's been proven false. See my link to Snopes.

[craigt3365]

4 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Nice try. It isn't just about Jackson killing Native Americans. Maybe you should look the "Trail of Tears" to understand how truly horrid he was.

My ancestors were part of that. Forced to relocate to Oklahoma.