Thailand may collect tolls on foreign automobiles entering the country when the region become a single market

[webfact]

Thailand may collect tolls on foreign automobiles entering the country when the region become a single market

By Thai PBS

 

 

In anticipation of increasing and heavy automobile traffic into the country when ASEAN becomes a full single market, the Ministry of Transport is considering to collect tolls on all foreign automobiles entering the country at all border crossings.

 

The proposal is now being considered by the ministry’s Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning at its recent meeting.

 

The deputy director of the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning Mrs Wilairat Sirisophon-Silpa revealed that a recent Asean Economic Cooperation or AEC conference concluded that greater immigration freedom among its member countries will see higher traffic volume on their respective highway networks.

 

Full story:  http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thailand-may-collect-tolls-foreign-automobiles-entering-country-region-become-single-market/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-11-28

[Chang_paarp]

Hope they realise that these tolls can work in both directions if the various ASEAN treaties allow.

[observer90210]

Never heard of foreign cars not paying the toll fares anywhere in the world...so this will be absolutely normal if Thailand requires foreign vehicles to participate.

[BigBadGeordie]

27 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said:

Hope they realise that these tolls can work in both directions if the various ASEAN treaties allow.

Malaysia has been collecting 160 Baht toll on all Thai vehicles since June.

[webfact]

Thailand To Toll, Track Foreign Drivers

By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter

 

  

A car at a Thailand border. Photo: Remy Rossi / Flickr

 

BANGKOK — Foreign drivers entering at border crossings will soon have to pay tolls and subject to GPS tracking while they are in the kingdom.

 

On Monday, the transportation officials proposed a plan to charge cars driving into the country in order to get funding for road maintenance.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/transpo/2017/11/28/thailand-toll-track-foreign-drivers/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-11-28

 

[Ricardo]

"These terrible foreign cars, coming over here, and wearing-out our roads !"

[keith101]

Wow a toll of 1.5 baht per kilometer will certainly keep foreign vehicles of the Kingdom whereas a one off fee would keep tourists coming in 

[keith101]

2 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

"These terrible foreign cars, coming over here, and wearing-out our roads !"

probably not the the four wheel kind but the way overweight 10 wheel kind that we see every day , right .

[Ricardo]

I wonder if one might get a discount, for using specially-designated high-in-potholes routes, and how those might be distinguished from the rest of the Thai road-network ?

 

Perhaps foreign aircraft might similarly pay an increased-toll, coming over here, and excessively-wearing-out Thai runways ?

[smedly]

I pondered over this topic for about 5mins trying to think of something sensible to say about this

 

 

and couldn't

[Briggsy]

ASEAN will never become a "full single market".

 

The "toll" in this case just sounds like an extra fee to be paid upon entering the country.

[Ricardo]

I wonder how they plan to collect the toll-fee, from the high-speed passenger-train, as it races at 500mph over the border with Laos ?

[Bluespunk]

57 minutes ago, webfact said:

On Monday, the transportation officials proposed a plan to charge cars driving into the country in order to get funding for road maintenance.

 

Pesky foreign cars...

[Bluespunk]

"In the second phase, between the fourth and seventh years of implementation, Wilairat said a GPS system would be installed on foreign vehicles to track their locations and routes."

 

Hmm...who pays for this then?

[jonclark]

1.5 baht per kilometer - isn't that the rate you get charged in a taxi after the 37 baht fee?  So your car becomes a personal taxi meter once you enter Thailand?? Wonder if it charges at 2 baht a minute when stuck in traffic like a taxi also? 

 

I will be very surprised if this ever works - installing GPS on cars entering the country - I mean most of the CCTV cameras don't work and that is pretty basic tech in a stationary object a, so i cannot see something more complex and highly mobile getting very far. 

 

500 baht for bring a car in job done - why make it needlessly complex and expensive to set up. A one off fee requires minimal investment in administration and paperwork and is much more efficient. 

 

[khwaibah]

1 hour ago, observer90210 said:

Never heard of foreign cars not paying the toll fares anywhere in the world...so this will be absolutely normal if Thailand requires foreign vehicles to participate.

Saudi Arabia/Bahrain no toll. USA/Canada/Mexico no toll.

[observer90210]

4 minutes ago, khwaibah said:

Saudi Arabia/Bahrain no toll. USA/Canada/Mexico no toll.

Lucky for those countries in that case to have no tolls....

 

French highways are the worst with say a 540 km trip to the South of France around US$ 130,-- .

Spain or Italy would be  a bit cheaper, same mileage would be the équivalent of around US$ 50,--

Switzerland has the best system in Europe, you pay a flat rate for a sticker and you get unlimited use of the highways. Cost around US$ 45,--

...etc. etc. etc.

 

 

[wakeupplease]

What countries charge visitors to use their roads? last time in Europe no charge, maybe I had a VIP Pass. Utter rubbish and GPS tracking, someone is wanting to know everything you do and where you are at any one time. P>>>>> state.

[marko kok prong]

Stop the Aliens.

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, jonclark said:

1.5 baht per kilometer - isn't that the rate you get charged in a taxi after the 37 baht fee?  So your car becomes a personal taxi meter once you enter Thailand?? Wonder if it charges at 2 baht a minute when stuck in traffic like a taxi also? 

 

I will be very surprised if this ever works - installing GPS on cars entering the country - I mean most of the CCTV cameras don't work and that is pretty basic tech in a stationary object a, so i cannot see something more complex and highly mobile getting very far. 

 

500 baht for bring a car in job done - why make it needlessly complex and expensive to set up. A one off fee requires minimal investment in administration and paperwork and is much more efficient. 

 

If they implement the 1.5 baht/km GPS based system, soon small shops will appear 5 km from the border, where you for a fee can deposit the GPS tracker while you freely roam around Thailand.

[evadgib]

If Thailand were to slim this down a bit and impose a ban or crippling toll on all non resident private vehicles heading for any of the Islands for Christmas, NY or Songkran per annum the people that actually live there might occasionally make it into top gear while heading to Tescos etc instead of emulating the M25 on a bank holiday w/e.

Edited November 28, 2017 by evadgib

[Phaser]

Not a bad idea - just follow the EU example or the example of Singapore when you drive in (without the high tech automation). 

[Shiver]

3 hours ago, jonclark said:

1.5 baht per kilometer - isn't that the rate you get charged in a taxi after the 37 baht fee?  So your car becomes a personal taxi meter once you enter Thailand?? Wonder if it charges at 2 baht a minute when stuck in traffic like a taxi also? 

 

I will be very surprised if this ever works - installing GPS on cars entering the country - I mean most of the CCTV cameras don't work and that is pretty basic tech in a stationary object a, so i cannot see something more complex and highly mobile getting very far. 

 

500 baht for bring a car in job done - why make it needlessly complex and expensive to set up. A one off fee requires minimal investment in administration and paperwork and is much more efficient. 

 

 

You do know that the government offices have to provide a subsidy for the photocopier manufacturers right? :)  Simple and efficient isn't on their agenda.

If you could bring a car in and pay a 1.5 baht rate instead of import duty, I'd give that some serious consideration.  Could save a couple of million baht easy.

 

[tompelli]

2 minutes ago, Shiver said:

If you could bring a car in and pay a 1.5 baht rate instead of import duty, I'd give that some serious consideration.  Could save a couple of million baht easy.

This is where the GPS tracking comes in. For the Asean countries that don't charge 300% duty to protect their "domestic" auto manufacturers .

[hobz]

"Office of Transport and Traffic Policy" Glad to hear that they have their priorities in order. It's not like Thailand has some of the highest levels of road deaths in the world...

[masuk]

3 hours ago, keith101 said:

Wow a toll of 1.5 baht per kilometer will certainly keep foreign vehicles of the Kingdom whereas a one off fee would keep tourists coming in 

If traffic fines were more realistic, and the actual money went into the treasury and not you-know-where, the whole country would be rolling in money, the hospital emergency departments would be looking for work, fewer funerals, fewer accidents. 

Drivers would have to learn that it's them who cause accidents, not fate.

[mrmicbkktxl]

3 hours ago, jonclark said:

1.5 baht per kilometer - isn't that the rate you get charged in a taxi after the 37 baht fee?  So your car becomes a personal taxi meter once you enter Thailand?? Wonder if it charges at 2 baht a minute when stuck in traffic like a taxi also? 

 

I will be very surprised if this ever works - installing GPS on cars entering the country - I mean most of the CCTV cameras don't work and that is pretty basic tech in a stationary object a, so i cannot see something more complex and highly mobile getting very far. 

 

500 baht for bring a car in job done - why make it needlessly complex and expensive to set up. A one off fee requires minimal investment in administration and paperwork and is much more efficient. 

 

Only if the driver turns on the meter but...........

[Enoon]

3 hours ago, khwaibah said:

Saudi Arabia/Bahrain no toll. USA/Canada/Mexico no toll.

 

And EEC, no tolls to cross borders between member states.

 

Having to pay a toll in a single market is the complete antithesis of what single markets are designed to do.

 

Ludicrous.

 

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by Enoon

[cmiuc]

Love the overuse of foreigners, I guess no other people exist.

[hhinhh]

This will certainly cost more money for bureaucracy than they will ever collect from the few cars comming into the country.