Thai Police Arrest British Man Wanted On Child Rape Charges

[atlastaname]

What i find astonishing is that you seem to be suggesting that anyone accused of this should be denied bail!! Kept in prison on remand because they are accused of something with nothing proved? Are you serious ?

Its called a civilised society ...its what separates us from the animals . Its strange how presumably otherwise intellegent people are moved to make stupid posts as soon as anyone is "accused" of anything to do with children. If he had murdered someone in cold blood we wouldn't be seeing the same kind of hysterical posts as we are on this thread. Why is that? Is murder a lesser crime ?

Are you for real? Which civilised society are you talking about? If someone is accused of raping an eight year old girl, who's rights are being violated if the suspect is held in remand while the crime is investigated?, I think the fact that he did a runner to Thailand says it all, and what your saying is that his liberty is more important than childrens safety, Who are you trying to convince that is civilised?

Oh i agree, the guy is probably as guilty as hel_l. The point i'm making is that just because someone is accused of something , people shouldn't leap on the "hang him and flog him" bandwagon. He is still innocent so far and judgement should be reserved for when (as is likely) he is found guilty. Under the bail act he was correctly granted bail. Just because the crime is against , allegedly, children should not make someone less likely to get bail than anyone else. They are still innocent until proved otherwise. Now if he had kiled someone that would be different

[Robski]

No it's not different, ok it's an alleged crime, but we're not talking about burglary or car theft.

Repeatedly raping an eight year old is a very serious allegation, if found guilty the defendant is as much if not more a menace to society as a murderer, caution should prevail in such a case and he should have been held on remand.

The only harm done if he is found not guilty is the defendants short term liberty, the consequences of him being guilty and being freed pending a court case far outweigh his liberty.

We don't live in a fair world, but who are you trying to protect, I'm not an advocate of summary justice, but I think the law is too weak and the large amount of male sexual offenders in the UK is testament to that.

I'm male and a UK national and sex offenders, alleged or not, are an abberation and an embarrasment and should be dealt with extreme caution and if found guilty harsh punishment should be handed down to them, it is the only deterent.

[Jet Gorgon]

No it's not different, ok it's an alleged crime, but we're not talking about burglary or car theft.

Repeatedly raping an eight year old is a very serious allegation, if found guilty the defendant is as much if not more a menace to society as a murderer, caution should prevail in such a case and he should have been held on remand.

The only harm done if he is found not guilty is the defendants short term liberty, the consequences of him being guilty and being freed pending a court case far outweigh his liberty.

We don't live in a fair world, but who are you trying to protect, I'm not an advocate of summary justice, but I think the law is too weak and the large amount of male sexual offenders in the UK is testament to that.

I'm male and a UK national and sex offenders, alleged or not, are an abberation and an embarrasment and should be dealt with extreme caution and if found guilty harsh punishment should be handed down to them, it is the only deterent.

Remember To Kill a Mockingbird, Robski. I abhor child abusers and all despicable pigs of that ilk. However, justice first. What if someone got revenge on you for a slight by accusing you of a similar crime? It happens.

As an aside, that photo of the guy is pretty bad advertising for Nike. And he does look smug. Should hold him in the BKK Hilton for a taste of Thai prison hospitality before he goes.

[jetjock]

Too true Boo,

The bummer is that it makes it harder for legimate teachers to get on with things as normal, but if a suspected pedo can come to Thailand and be a teacher then something has to be done about it.

It is sad situation that a few bad apples can reflect badly and make it more difficult for all the good legitimate teachers to do their job. My sister is a school teacher in the US and the rules are that the teachers can never be alone in a one on one situation with a student. They must have a third person as a witness in the room to protect the teacher from false allegations should the student not like the teacher. Apparently some of the students have been quite quick to take advatntage of the situation under the current climate. I congratulate all the dedicated teachers out there that are doing a wonderful job. I guess thorough backround checks are the only answer to improving the situtation.

[pepi1]

I think this just about does it for me!! Was thinking of settling LOS this June with family. No way now! Bombs ,pervets,currupt police, Thaskin etc., etc. Sorry folks, wish you luck there. Not so bad here in London after all.

[lannabull]

Maybe they should consider closing all of the shops around Kow San Road that sell fake degree's to help in checking up.. Seems kind of funny how many of these guys get their paperwork here. I know it has nothing to do with what this post is really about, but its just a sideline thought..

[roamer]

I think this just about does it for me!! Was thinking of settling LOS this June with family. No way now! Bombs ,pervets,currupt police, Thaskin etc., etc. Sorry folks, wish you luck there. Not so bad here in London after all.

there are many reasons for not moving to LOS. Bombs....correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the current lead BBC news item about 6 fanatics who attempted, and nearly succeeded, in blowing up packed London Underground trains ? Just weeks after another bunch of cranks managed to do just that.

Perverts. Well its something that we exported from the UK, allegedly in this case and definitely in others.

Corrupt police, well even if you do have a point there (in numerical terms)the only impact that is likely to have on your life in LOS is that speeding fines are much cheaper when dealt with in that fashion.

Thaksin ??? Now your really making me laugh. how much did Tony Blair, socialist prime minister pay for his townhouse...£3.5 million ? Oh and that strange coincidence that EVERY donor who has donated £1million to the Labour party has received a knighthood or peerage....itself now the subject of a police investigation.

But to recap, the final straw for you was that an alleged British pervert was captured in Thailand is a reason for you to stay in the UK ?

[mopenyang]

Well, he went from being a truck driver to being a teacher simply by moving from the UK to Thailand. It is highly probable his "education" and qualifications for the latter position were acquired in less than "traditional" ways after arriving in Thailand.

Beyond that, there is something else at work here. It is a long-standing culture among some farang teachers and even some institutions and other for profit organizations that supports and even promotes the idea that it is perfectly acceptable to use fake documents in furtherance of landing a teaching job in Thailand. This thinking is further supported by teachers with legitimate documents who choose to look the other way knowing full well that some of their faculty colleagues are fakes and working on fake documents.

This has been going on for a very long time. I would like to think something will finally be done to bring it to an end and that cases of this type will finally cause some positive change in the system.

At the same time, having both feet firmly planted on terra firma, I know it will not go away anytime soon due to the unholy marriage that exists here of monetary interests and individuals very desperate for a job.

Both have too much to lose for us to expect them to do the legal, right and honorable thing anytime soon.

[sriracha john]

Briton faces extradition on rape charge

A former truck driver who reportedly fled a child rape charge in England before taking up a teaching job in Bangkok has been arrested and is facing extradition to Britain. Sean McMahon, 45, was arrested at an apartment in AP Tower, in the Phahon Yothin area

More distressing details continued here:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/17Jan2007_news19.php

[helicoptor]

same solution for the soi dog population...

Castration = remove desire

Amputate thumbs = so normal people can identify them

Harsh? Yes it certainly is - but our current deterents do not work for these people, incarceration only increases the desire and allows these people to meet and share their warped views.

now flame me.......

[JacknDanny]

Oh i agree, the guy is probably as guilty as hel_l. The point i'm making is that just because someone is accused of something , people shouldn't leap on the "hang him and flog him" bandwagon. He is still innocent so far and judgement should be reserved for when (as is likely) he is found guilty. Under the bail act he was correctly granted bail. Just because the crime is against , allegedly, children should not make someone less likely to get bail than anyone else. They are still innocent until proved otherwise. Now if he had kiled someone that would be different

I disagree with your comments above re Bail.

This person was CHARGED with raping an 8yr old child, therefore there is a pretty good chance he will be convicted.

There are as you say 3 reasons to refuse bail.Likely to abscond/likely to re-offend/likely to interfere with witnesses.

With this being a serious offence and if found guilty certainly a custodial sentence would be given, then that in itself is normally sufficient to keep that person in custody.

Unfortunately we do not know the full circumstances, however it used to be very unusual in the UK for a person charged with a serious offence to be given bail, simply on the assumption that there is a very real chance of that person NOT appearing in court as he knows there is a very strong possibility that he will be sent down.

Maybe things have changed for the worst over the past 10 years?

[JacknDanny]

I think this just about does it for me!! Was thinking of settling LOS this June with family. No way now! Bombs ,pervets,currupt police, Thaskin etc., etc. Sorry folks, wish you luck there. Not so bad here in London after all.

Just remember. This alleged paedophile committed these offences in ENGLAND, which London used to be part of?

[younghusband]

I think this just about does it for me!! Was thinking of settling LOS this June with family. No way now! Bombs ,pervets,currupt police, Thaskin etc., etc. Sorry folks, wish you luck there. Not so bad here in London after all.

there are many reasons for not moving to LOS. Bombs....correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the current lead BBC news item about 6 fanatics who attempted, and nearly succeeded, in blowing up packed London Underground trains ? Just weeks after another bunch of cranks managed to do just that.

Perverts. Well its something that we exported from the UK, allegedly in this case and definitely in others.

Corrupt police, well even if you do have a point there (in numerical terms)the only impact that is likely to have on your life in LOS is that speeding fines are much cheaper when dealt with in that fashion.

Thaksin ??? Now your really making me laugh. how much did Tony Blair, socialist prime minister pay for his townhouse...£3.5 million ? Oh and that strange coincidence that EVERY donor who has donated £1million to the Labour party has received a knighthood or peerage....itself now the subject of a police investigation.

But to recap, the final straw for you was that an alleged British pervert was captured in Thailand is a reason for you to stay in the UK ?

I'm no particular fan of Tony Blair but your jibe about his Pnds 3.5m house is off target.Firstly he has a stonking great mortgage and secondly his wife is one of the most successful barristers on the London circuit.Completely off topic but the equivalent in Thailand of Pnds 3.5m is Bt 245m which in terms of assets would pass unremarked here even when held by politicians who have never held a commercially paying job in their lives.

[StateSix]

Oh i agree, the guy is probably as guilty as hel_l. The point i'm making is that just because someone is accused of something , people shouldn't leap on the "hang him and flog him" bandwagon. He is still innocent so far and judgement should be reserved for when (as is likely) he is found guilty. Under the bail act he was correctly granted bail. Just because the crime is against , allegedly, children should not make someone less likely to get bail than anyone else. They are still innocent until proved otherwise. Now if he had kiled someone that would be different

I disagree with your comments above re Bail.

This person was CHARGED with raping an 8yr old child, therefore there is a pretty good chance he will be convicted.

There are as you say 3 reasons to refuse bail.Likely to abscond/likely to re-offend/likely to interfere with witnesses.

With this being a serious offence and if found guilty certainly a custodial sentence would be given, then that in itself is normally sufficient to keep that person in custody.

Unfortunately we do not know the full circumstances, however it used to be very unusual in the UK for a person charged with a serious offence to be given bail, simply on the assumption that there is a very real chance of that person NOT appearing in court as he knows there is a very strong possibility that he will be sent down.

Maybe things have changed for the worst over the past 10 years?

I agree that in a case like this the CPS are unlikely to authorise a charge unless they felt there was a good chance of a conviction, so there is likely to be strong evidence against him. However, being charged with a serious offence, with the likelihood of a long custodial sentence, is not necessarily substantial grounds to believe the accused will abscond, especially these days with the Human Rights Act. The courts are reluctant to remand to custody (the overcrowding in the prison system doesn't help either). I have seen people bailed by the courts, arrested a few hours later for the same offence, kept overnight by the police and be bailed agin in the morning by the same magistrate.

I heard the news on the radio this morning where they said he had been working without a work permit, and I imagine he did not have any qualifications either. I hope the authorities take some action against the school concerned. If my child was a pupil there, I would be having strong words with them and moving them elsewhere.

In the Bangkok Post today there was also an article about a Brit and a Canadian arrested at a school in Bang Khun Thian for using fake qualification certificates, so it appears some checks are being made by the authorities.

[BlackJack]

Thai policemen escort British Sean McMahon, wanted in the United Kingdom for the rape of an 8-year-old girl, after his arrest at Crime Against Child Juvenile and woman suppression Division in Bangkok on Tuesday Jan 16.

World Photos

Thai police arrest British man wanted on child rape charges

A British man wanted in the United Kingdom for the rape of an 8-year-old girl has been arrested in Thailand, police said Tuesday.

Sean McMahon, 45, was arrested Monday at his Bangkok apartment following a request from British authorities, Police Lt. Gen. Kamronwit Thoopkrajang said. He did not provide any additional details on the arrest.

McMahon allegedly repeatedly raped an 8-year-old girl between January 1997 and September 1998 and was arrested in April 1999 for the crimes in the town of Turbay in Britain, Kamronwit said. He was released on bail and disappeared, he said.

"The suspect will be repatriated back to England to face the charges in accordance with the extradition treaty (between the two countries)," said Kamronwit, adding that a Thai court is expected to take up the repatriation request on Wednesday.

McMahon remains in police custody and is expected to appear at the repatriation hearing.

Kamronwit said it was unclear when McMahon came to Thailand, though police believe he was working as an English teacher for several years in the country.

With minimal screening and ready access to children, teaching English has been a popular job for pedophiles in Asia.

John Mark Karr, who confessed to killing 6-year-old American beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey only to be freed last year for lack of corroborating evidence, also taught English at several schools in Bangkok, reports AP.

Also last year, an Australian who taught English in Jakarta, Indonesia, was charged with molesting street children. He told police he videotaped at least 50 teenage boys.

Another Australian teacher who faced sex allegations at home committed suicide last year in Indonesia, where he also was accused by human right activists of abusing children.

- Pravda

great ad for NIKE

how will their marketing people handle that one

just do it

[PhilHarries]

The thing that really bugs the hel_l out of me is that he looks so bluddy smug.

He is facing time in a Thai jail awaiting extradition, assuming the Thais don't want jail him for his offences (very unlikely, it'll be a case of "get that creep out of here asap").

He will be facing a very long custodial sentence back in the UK, of which under the crazy rules he'll probably only serve a third but noetheless it will be some years before he gets out. Then he'll be on the sex offenders register and subject to restrictions on his movements etc. I don't know if the restrictions extend to refusal of passport, I hope so because if the judge doesn't specify a minimum sentence he could be back in LOS in as little five years.

And he is SMILING!

Either he is innocent, so why do a runner?

Or he is guilty and a disgusting pervert of the worst kind. As he has been charged they must have a pretty strong case so, for me, this is the more likely.

But note the difference in the way he is handled in Thailand. In the UK the press would not be allowed access and in any case he'd be moved around under a blanket to protect his identity.

Oh well, this will give the xenophobes in the Thai authorities one more excuse to make it more difficult for farangs to be in Thailand.

[A_Traveller]

Briton faces extradition on rape charge

A former truck driver who reportedly fled a child rape charge in England before taking up a teaching job in Bangkok has been arrested and is facing extradition to Britain. Sean McMahon, 45, was arrested at an apartment in AP Tower, in the Phahon Yothin area

More distressing details continued here:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/17Jan2007_news19.php

An interesting thing is that the BBC report says he was detained in 1999, and the police here {Bangkok Post} say he arrived in 2003 but in the video, see link, the claim is that the Police had been searching for him for 4 years.

Link to BBC report Video link upper right

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6266791.stm

[PeaceBlondie]

Thailand absolutely, obviously, needs to do proper criminal background checks on ALL farang that are here on O or B visas. But they won't and they can't do it right. Trust them to screw it up.

Also, they can't or won't check academic degrees or transcripts properly.

[El Taco Loco]

Get off your high and mighty horse, PB. What you are saying is that anyone with a criminal background cannot and should not have kids and be married and living in LOS?

Thailand absolutely, obviously, needs to do proper criminal background checks on ALL farang that are here on O or B visas. But they won't and they can't do it right. Trust them to screw it up.

Also, they can't or won't check academic degrees or transcripts properly.

[midas]

Well, he went from being a truck driver to being a teacher simply by moving from the UK to Thailand. It is highly probable his "education" and qualifications for the latter position were acquired in less than "traditional" ways after arriving in Thailand.

Beyond that, there is something else at work here. It is a long-standing culture among some farang teachers and even some institutions and other for profit organizations that supports and even promotes the idea that it is perfectly acceptable to use fake documents in furtherance of landing a teaching job in Thailand. This thinking is further supported by teachers with legitimate documents who choose to look the other way knowing full well that some of their faculty colleagues are fakes and working on fake documents.

it's always possible ( but unlikely ) there are some very highly qualified - i.e.degree bearing truck drivers in the UK

But it was always my understanding that you also now need a degree to obtain to work permit in Thailand ?

Dont the work permit issuing authorities check into the validity or otherwise of educational certificates ?

[StateSix]

Well, he went from being a truck driver to being a teacher simply by moving from the UK to Thailand. It is highly probable his "education" and qualifications for the latter position were acquired in less than "traditional" ways after arriving in Thailand.

Beyond that, there is something else at work here. It is a long-standing culture among some farang teachers and even some institutions and other for profit organizations that supports and even promotes the idea that it is perfectly acceptable to use fake documents in furtherance of landing a teaching job in Thailand. This thinking is further supported by teachers with legitimate documents who choose to look the other way knowing full well that some of their faculty colleagues are fakes and working on fake documents.

it's always possible ( but unlikely ) there are some very highly qualified - i.e.degree bearing truck drivers in the UK

But it was always my understanding that you also now need a degree to obtain to work permit in Thailand ?

Dont the work permit issuing authorities check into the validity or otherwise of educational certificates ?

I can't really see how they could check the validity of educational certificates. When I obtained my work permit I supplied a copy of my degree certificate to the lawyer. All they could really do is ask the university that issued it, but they would not be able to release any information as it is protected under the Data Protection Act.

[Ijustwannateach]

The issue of whether it is absolutely required or not to have a degree to work as any kind of a teacher (including basic TEFL teaching) in Thailand is unresolvable at the moment. The government has (probably deliberately) unclear regulations and is rewriting them more or less constantly, as far as anyone can tell. There are different rules for public and private schools, for TEFL and for subject degrees, and probably for the days when Khun Wannacuppa at the MOE or the MOI or the MOL has a stomachache and when she doesn't. In the past there have been, and at the present there are indeed teachers working legally, even with work permits, who do not have degrees and have not lied about it. In the future, who knows? It's my personal opinion that mere TEFL teaching doesn't require a 4 year degree- it's not rocket science- but I'm not the one writing the rules. You can discuss whether or not this should be true until you're blue in the face, but no one in Thailand can predict with 100% accuracy whether or not this will be true in any particular individual's case and reading the law won't help you- too many exceptions, loopholes, and vague exclusions.

It IS possible to verify degrees and probably even to handle police checks- I've seen in done in Japan- but not the way things are done in Thailand. To do so requires transparency, efficiency, and organisation- these are not qualities for which the Thai bureaucracy is well-known. The opacity of the current system serves many well-entrenched interests.

"Steven"

[taxexile]

What you are saying is that anyone with a criminal background cannot and should not have kids and be married and living in LOS?

i personally think that once someone is convicted of of any criminal offence involving violence , rape , theft or offences against children then they should have their passport revoked and be on permanent parole.

anything to make those people contemplating criminal offences think twice before acting.

in todays climate (in the uk) of unbelievable leniency and toleration towards criminals there is absolutely no deterrent and very little chance of being caught.

i have no idea of the guilt or onnocence of this man , but the fact that it took the uk authorities 8 years to make a request for his extradition speaks volumes about the efficiency and dedication of the police forces there.

once again , cases like this will just make life harder for all the honest tourists , foriegn teachers and other workers to live here , and will increase the thais xenophobia towards us.

[atlastaname]

Get off your high and mighty horse, PB. What you are saying is that anyone with a criminal background cannot and should not have kids and be married and living in LOS?

Thailand absolutely, obviously, needs to do proper criminal background checks on ALL farang that are here on O or B visas. But they won't and they can't do it right. Trust them to screw it up.

Also, they can't or won't check academic degrees or transcripts properly.

Exactly Sniperteam. Good post. Enforces the point i made earlier which is that whenever children are involved , normally rational people go WAYYYY overboard in their reaction. Yes its a serious crime but keep your responces rational. To suggest criminal checks on everyone coming on a O or B visa is plain stupid. Why not every tourist as well?? Why limit it to O and B's? PB is suggesting that there is no second chance for anyone , criminal = bad . Full stop. Thats just plain daft.

To comment on a point someone else brought up about overcrowding in UK jails...well....if they stopped sending so many people who don't need to be in jail to jail they wouldn't be overcrowded would they? The only people IMHO who should be in jail are dangerous and violent people. What is the poin t of other people being in jail costing a fortune to keep , when they could be punished in the community and , in the case of fraud for example , punished through heavy fines .? Example Jeffery Archer , now what the hel_l was he in jail for when he could have been hit by a huge fine which would have better punished him and not cost the taxpayer the fortune it did keeping a perfectly sane and harmless man in jail for 4 years?

[Laulen]

The issue of whether it is absolutely required or not to have a degree to work as any kind of a teacher (including basic TEFL teaching) in Thailand is unresolvable at the moment. The government has (probably deliberately) unclear regulations and is rewriting them more or less constantly, as far as anyone can tell. There are different rules for public and private schools, for TEFL and for subject degrees, and probably for the days when Khun Wannacuppa at the MOE or the MOI or the MOL has a stomachache and when she doesn't. In the past there have been, and at the present there are indeed teachers working legally, even with work permits, who do not have degrees and have not lied about it. In the future, who knows? It's my personal opinion that mere TEFL teaching doesn't require a 4 year degree- it's not rocket science- but I'm not the one writing the rules. You can discuss whether or not this should be true until you're blue in the face, but no one in Thailand can predict with 100% accuracy whether or not this will be true in any particular individual's case and reading the law won't help you- too many exceptions, loopholes, and vague exclusions.

It IS possible to verify degrees and probably even to handle police checks- I've seen in done in Japan- but not the way things are done in Thailand. To do so requires transparency, efficiency, and organisation- these are not qualities for which the Thai bureaucracy is well-known. The opacity of the current system serves many well-entrenched interests.

"Steven"

Great post! It highlights the current confusion, which allows certain 'teachers' to pursue their 'lusts' with impunity.

This thread is all rather sad for genuine teachers (of whatever subject) in Thailand. I just hope that there is some counter-balance to this by the establishment of some kind of 'Award' to teachers, other than Thai (so this includes other nationalities, not just English-speaking), recognising some of the first-class work, dedication, and success they are having with the nation's young people and professional people as well.

If anyone at the Education Ministry is reading this, please carefully consider this proposal for a National Award, like you already have for existing Thai teachers.

[pumpuiman]

Thai schools of all income level, educational level, in every province need help from the Thai central government, to have a central clearinghouse for police checks for child workers. You can't expect every school to figure it out themselves. Sadly, it seems unlikely that the central govt. is willing to implement a plan that actually works.

Isn't this the reason given for the new visa regulations? The government now requires all new arrivals to go through the visa process. The reason given by the government was to weed out vermin like this. They are conducting raids on schools to check on those already here.

So the Thai central government is helping schools tremendously already aren't they? Or am I missing something?

This guy, if found guilty should be castrated.

[Robski]

Get off your high and mighty horse, PB. What you are saying is that anyone with a criminal background cannot and should not have kids and be married and living in LOS?

Thailand absolutely, obviously, needs to do proper criminal background checks on ALL farang that are here on O or B visas. But they won't and they can't do it right. Trust them to screw it up.

Also, they can't or won't check academic degrees or transcripts properly.

Exactly Sniperteam. Good post. Enforces the point i made earlier which is that whenever children are involved , normally rational people go WAYYYY overboard in their reaction. Yes its a serious crime but keep your responces rational. To suggest criminal checks on everyone coming on a O or B visa is plain stupid. Why not every tourist as well?? Why limit it to O and B's? PB is suggesting that there is no second chance for anyone , criminal = bad . Full stop. Thats just plain daft.

To comment on a point someone else brought up about overcrowding in UK jails...well....if they stopped sending so many people who don't need to be in jail to jail they wouldn't be overcrowded would they? The only people IMHO who should be in jail are dangerous and violent people. What is the poin t of other people being in jail costing a fortune to keep , when they could be punished in the community and , in the case of fraud for example , punished through heavy fines .? Example Jeffery Archer , now what the hel_l was he in jail for when he could have been hit by a huge fine which would have better punished him and not cost the taxpayer the fortune it did keeping a perfectly sane and harmless man in jail for 4 years?

Hold on a second, what PB is saying and what most people would agree is that criminal record checks and verification of degrees is necessary for teaching, but the Thai authorities, although they have made regulations to this affect, are unable to do these checks effectively. And it's true.

So get off your high horse.

Edited January 17, 2007 by Robski

[Acquiesce]

Hold on a second, what PB is saying and what most people would agree is that criminal record checks and verification of degrees is necessary for teaching, but the Thai authorities, although they have made regulations to this affect, are unable to do these checks effectively. And it's true.

So get off your high horse.

Sorry but your wrong, PB said 'Thailand absolutely, obviously, needs to do proper criminal background checks on ALL farang that are here on O or B visas.'

Try reading it again.

[Robski]

ThaiVisa, hub of high horses.

[Acquiesce]

ThaiVisa, hub of high horses.

Guess that was easier than admitting you were wrong