Trump says China 'Caught RED HANDED' allowing oil into North Korea

[webfact]

Trump says China 'Caught RED HANDED' allowing oil into North Korea

By David Brunnstrom and Susan Heavey

 

U.S. President Donald Trump waves as he arrives at West Palm Beach international airport in West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S., December 22, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday said he was "very disappointed that China is allowing oil to go into North Korea" and that such moves would prevent "a friendly solution" to the crisis over Pyongyang's nuclear program.

 

"Caught RED HANDED - very disappointed that China is allowing oil to go into North Korea. There will never be a friendly solution to the North Korea problem if this continues to happen!" Trump wrote in a post on Twitter.

 

China earlier on Thursday said there had been no U.N. sanction-breaking oil sales by Chinese ships to North Korea after a South Korean newspaper said Chinese and North Korean vessels had been illicitly linking up at sea to get oil to North Korea.

 

The Trump administration has led a drive to step up global sanctions on North Korea in response to Pyongyang's efforts to develop nuclear-tipped missiles capable of hitting the United States.

 

Washington says the full cooperation of China, North Korea's neighbour and main trading partner, is vital to the success of this effort, while warning that all options are on the table, including military ones, in dealing with North Korea.

 

The U.N. Security Council last week unanimously imposed new sanctions on North Korea for a recent intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) test, seeking to further limit its access to refined petroleum products and crude oil.

 

The U.N. resolution seeks to ban nearly 90 percent of refined petroleum exports to North Korea by capping them at 500,000 barrels a year.

 

The U.S.-drafted resolution also caps crude oil supplies to North Korea at 4 million barrels a year and commits the Council to further reductions if North Korea were to conduct another nuclear test or launch another ICBM.

 

Documents seen by Reuters this month showed Washington called on the Security Council to blacklist 10 ships for circumventing sanctions by conducting ship-to-ship transfers of refined petroleum products to North Korean vessels or transporting North Korean coal.

 

China and Russia subsequently asked for more time to consider the proposal.

 

In September, the Security Council put a cap of 2 million barrels a year on refined petroleum products exports to North Korea.

 

China has repeatedly said it is fully enforcing all resolutions against North Korea, despite suspicion in Washington, Seoul and Tokyo that loopholes still exist.

 

Asked at a regular briefing whether Chinese ships were illegally providing oil to North Korean ships, Chinese Defence Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang reiterated that China, including the military, strictly enforced U.N. resolutions.

 

"The situation you have mentioned absolutely does not exist," he said.

 

South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper this week quoted South Korean government sources as saying that U.S. spy satellites had detected Chinese ships transferring oil to North Korean vessels around 30 times since October.

 

U.S. officials have not confirmed details of the report, but a U.S. State Department official suggested on Wednesday that such transfers could still be going on.

 

“Ship-to-ship transfers ... remain a concern as part of North Korea’s sanctions evasions activities,” the official said, while declining to provide details.

 

A State Department spokesman, Michael Cavey, reiterated on Wednesday that the United States had called on all countries to cut economic ties with North Korea.

 

"We urge China to end all economic ties with the DPRK, including tourism, and the provision of any oil or petroleum products, and expel all DPRK workers," he said, using the acronym for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

 

Harry Kazianis, director of defence studies at the conservative Center for the National Interest, said China would "never, ever, enforce the sanctions to the satisfaction of President Trump," in spite of the effort the U.S. president had invested in developing a personal relationship with China's Xi Jinping.

 

"With President Trump’s latest Tweet it seems the ‘Bromance’ between him and President Xi is finally over," he said.

 

"This was always bound to happen. China is actually more afraid of North Korea than America," Kazianis said, citing Chinese concerns about instability or collapse in North Korea if sanctions were fully applied.

 

U.S. Democratic Senator Ed Markey, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on Twitter the North Korean threat had only increased since Trump took office and he had to find a way to get China to cut off crude oil supplies.

 

"The solution is a coherent strategy, not bluster," he said.

 

(Reporting by Susan Heavey, David Brunnstrom, Mark Hosenball and Michelle Nichols; Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard in Beijing; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and James Dalgleish)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-12-29

[boomerangutang]

Hmmm,  Trump is now going to police China?  That should go well.

[zaphod reborn]

China is cutting into Trump's and Putin's prospective profits of selling oil from Sibur, shipping it through Navigator, to the sanctioned North Korea.  The key man in the chain is Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.  Putin and Trump owe Ross a favor because he was key in laundering dirty Russian oligarch money through Cypress Bank to Deutsche Bank and then in the form of loans to Trump.  Mueller will put it all together, but doubtful Congress or the American public will understand that Trump's presidency was all a get rich scheme for Putin and Trump. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross linked to Putin's family through oil shipping and Cypress Bank ties

[FritsSikkink]

North Korea NEEDS a nuclear weapon otherwise they would be invaded by the USA years ago. Learn to live with it as they haven't invaded other countries for at least 70 years which can't be said from the other party.

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

North Korea NEEDS a nuclear weapon otherwise they would be invaded by the USA years ago. 

That just doesnt make sense .

Did you think that through ?

You are saying that NK needs something in the future otherwise something that didnt happen in the past would have  happened .

   NK didnt have Nukes in the past and the USA didnt invade , you are saying that NK needs to get Nukes because if they do not, USA would have invaded them !!!!! 

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

That just doesnt make sense .

Did you think that through ?

You are saying that NK needs something in the future otherwise something that didnt happen in the past would have  happened .

   NK didnt have Nukes in the past and the USA didnt invade , you are saying that NK needs to get Nukes because if they do not, USA would have invaded them !!!!! 

Get your facts straight, they have nuclear weapons already.

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Get your facts straight, they have nuclear weapons already.

NK has not yet developed the ability to launch Nuclear bombs , although they have developed nukes, they have yet been able to attach the to missiles , so, they are unable to use them against the USA .

   The USA have no reason or desire  to invade North Korea .

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, zaphod reborn said:

China is cutting into Trump's and Putin's prospective profits of selling oil from Sibur, shipping it through Navigator, to the sanctioned North Korea.  The key man in the chain is Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.  Putin and Trump owe Ross a favor because he was key in laundering dirty Russian oligarch money through Cypress Bank to Deutsche Bank and then in the form of loans to Trump.  Mueller will put it all together, but doubtful Congress or the American public will understand that Trump's presidency was all a get rich scheme for Putin and Trump. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross linked to Putin's family through oil shipping and Cypress Bank ties

 

So many hands in the till, so little time.

[smotherb]

Well, first you have to ask if what Trump says is true; after the literally hundreds of lies he has told? Then you have to wonder how he expects anyone to honor what the UN says when he does not.

[edthhd]

And I suppose Trump will now try to sanction China. He is so stupid he just might try that. 

[sanemax]

22 minutes ago, smotherb said:

Well, first you have to ask if what Trump says is true; after the literally hundreds of lies he has told? 

I am sure you beleive that it is true and that you just want to have a dig @ Don

[car720]

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

That just doesnt make sense .

Did you think that through ?

You are saying that NK needs something in the future otherwise something that didnt happen in the past would have  happened .

   NK didnt have Nukes in the past and the USA didnt invade , you are saying that NK needs to get Nukes because if they do not, USA would have invaded them !!!!! 

or will invade them..  Remind me again who was it that said what about the biggest stick.

[Morch]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

North Korea NEEDS a nuclear weapon otherwise they would be invaded by the USA years ago. Learn to live with it as they haven't invaded other countries for at least 70 years which can't be said from the other party.

 

Kim might need them, the North Korean people, maybe not so much.

[Grouse]

I thought they had three carriers in the area. Sink all shipping coming into NK. Just declare an exclusion zone and sink a couple of ships as an example 

 

Or bugger off and leave them to it. The Americans don't have the balls.

[geriatrickid]

8 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

Hmmm,  Trump is now going to police China?  That should go well.

Irrelevant. Did China bust the sanctions? Yes or No? And if so, will the UN penalize China? If the answer is no, then why should the USA  heed  any third party's demands in this matter?

[55Jay]

23 minutes ago, Morch said:

Kim might need them, the North Korean people, maybe not so much.

 

 

[maximillian]

>>>Or bugger off and leave them to it. The Americans don't have the balls.<<<

 

Well Mr. Grouse, american Gi's must have balls to do the fighting, whereas the fools who send them to the battle don't need any as they remain in their safe haven.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts about coal have been removed as well as the replies. 

 

An inflammatory post has been removed as well as the replies 

[samran]

Wait a second. I thought Donald had a great, no fantastic nearing orgasmic, relationship with the Chinese president? 

 

How is do such things happen when you are the greatest at everything? Surely this must be fake news? 

[Grouse]

53 minutes ago, maximillian said:

>>>Or bugger off and leave them to it. The Americans don't have the balls.<<<

 

Well Mr. Grouse, american Gi's must have balls to do the fighting, whereas the fools who send them to the battle don't need any as they remain in their safe haven.

I think you will find the overarching concern is to avoid troop casualties these days. Drones are the thing

 

But my point is this, if you're going to threaten, then follow through. I don't think the Americans have the balls; the Japanese would 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Grouse

[dunroaming]

8 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

North Korea NEEDS a nuclear weapon otherwise they would be invaded by the USA years ago. Learn to live with it as they haven't invaded other countries for at least 70 years which can't be said from the other party.

Clearly belongs to the Trump school of logic!  

8 hours ago, sanemax said:

 The USA have no reason or desire  to invade North Korea .

The USA have no reason but Trump is desperate for it!

[ilostmypassword]

2 hours ago, smotherb said:

Well, first you have to ask if what Trump says is true; after the literally hundreds of lies he has told? Then you have to wonder how he expects anyone to honor what the UN says when he does not.

 

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

I am sure you beleive that it is true and that you just want to have a dig @ Don

Does the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf ring any bells?

[Morch]

 

@johnnyonesock

 

I doubt Kim's nuclear ambitions got much to do with the welfare of NK's people.

[metisdead]

Off topic trolling posts and replies have been removed. 

 

A post containing offensive language has been removed. 

Edited December 29, 2017 by metisdead

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Clearly belongs to the Trump school of logic!  

The USA have no reason but Trump is desperate for it!

The fact that NK are developing Nuclear weapons which can hit the USA, gives the USA a reason to want to try to stop that happening

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, sklmeeera said:

We just have to pray that someone does Trump in and sooner rather than later before he gets the chance to really <deleted> up the world . 

This really isnt about just Trump and NK, this effects the whole World.

This is the World against NK, rather than the world and NK against Trump

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post has been removed. 

[Thunder26]

I don't think China really cares what Trump thinks or wants. China and Russia joining into a cause are invincible. China and Russia don't want a war near their borders. They don't take the lunatic from North Korea seriously. If China or Russia saw North Korea as a threat they would've shut it down already, but at the moment, they don't feel the need.

Edited December 29, 2017 by Thunder26

[ilostmypassword]

19 minutes ago, sanemax said:

This really isnt about just Trump and NK, this effects the whole World.

This is the World against NK, rather than the world and NK against Trump

The world except for China and Russia? And South Korea and Japan aren't exactly backing a war their either. Haven't heard backing for that from most of the rest of the world either.

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

The world except for China and Russia? And South Korea and Japan aren't exactly backing a war their either. Haven't heard backing for that from most of the rest of the world either.

If we are to discuss the relations between Russia, Japan, South Korea, China, North Korea and the USA , we would have to book a conference hall for a week, and discuss it then .

  A few sentences on TV cannot do the subject justice