Have you left Thailand ?

[speedtripler]

3 hours ago, dpdp said:

 

I do not mess with low so farangs...

 

 

Peas in a pod lol

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, Gonsalviz said:

You bet I left. After putting up with Scamland for over 10 years, it was time to get out.

Million $ question though. Where is better? Everywhere has drawbacks now, IMO. It's just a question of finding a place one likes enough to want to stay that is better than the other places one can stay.

If one can't find a good enough reason to stay in one place it is time to change location, if one can.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, amvet said:

Burma, Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia are neighbors of Thailand.  50,000 Americans died in the Vietnam war.  519 Brits died in Malaysia.  I am a disabled combat vet and receive a disability pension based on wounds I received in 1968.  It was the other guy who spent the war in a bar in Saigon.  I was in a helicopter.   

That 50,000 US troops died in Vietnam should not be used to make a point. Unfortunately for those that died and were injured, your commanders didn't want to learn any lessons from the British, who had been fighting successful jungle campaigns for many years prior to your entry into that unfortunate country. Killing everything with massive firepower is not better than sneaking around and doing it softly softly.

The Australians knew how to do it properly, and the best thing they did for their troops was refusing Westmoreland's demands to speed up.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

Look, I get it

You really want to tell everyone that you're still useful, virile and relevant but I'm sorry, I'm not even remotely impressed.

 

I've far more respect for the old fella who just gets on with enjoying his retirement, goes about his business with his women or wife or whatever and keeps himself to himself

Sitting on an anonymous forum trying to piss higher up the wall than younger guys makes no sense whatsoever to me.

Sitting on an anonymous forum trying to piss higher up the wall than ......... guys

Isn't that what you are doing?

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, dpdp said:

 

Even for $100000/month I would not live in any retarded territory.

How lucky is your family to live in that sh*thole just because you were not able to make good money in Thailand.

Poor them.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, anyone with a family is doing OK there. It's the single people that suffer, especially single men. 

Married couples are in demand as chaperones, and girls get invited to parties- single guys don't.

If I'd had a wife there I'd have stayed longer.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Very good response and I have appreciated both of your posts.

 

Yes-the Thai friend thing is a bit of a puzzle and amongst my foreign compatriots in Isaan that I personally knew-irrespective of how long they had been there or their ability to speak Thai-I found that they had few (if any) Thai friends.

 

I am sure that other posters have different experiences.....but that was mine.

The only thing that puzzles me is why you are puzzled.

 

IMO expats live here for other reasons than making friends with Thai men.

Perhaps my Thai family poisoned me against Thai men as they were pretty revolting specimens of manhood, but I had more interesting things to do than drinking with Thai men. 

Also, it takes 2 to tango, and they weren't exactly falling over themselves to be buddies.

[Odysseus123]

22 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The only thing that puzzles me is why you are puzzled.

 

IMO expats live here for other reasons than making friends with Thai men.

Perhaps my Thai family poisoned me against Thai men as they were pretty revolting specimens of manhood, but I had more interesting things to do than drinking with Thai men. 

Also, it takes 2 to tango, and they weren't exactly falling over themselves to be buddies.

All the above may be true though considering the age range of most expats where I lived (65-70) in a rural area chasing Thai fillies did not occupy the entire day.

 

I have retained firm friends from my days working in the Solomons,Fiji and New Guinea and these have often been in quite large family groups.

 

Indeed I still correspond with a Portuguese family from nigh on 30 years ago.

 

Before I left I tried to set up a connection between a Thai boy (16) and some American friends of mine in the hope that he would correspond with their teenage sons and daughters but he never pursued the option even when it was presented to him on a plate.

 

This is the first time in all my years of travel that I  have retained not a single friend-either foreign or indigenous-as a result of my time "in country".

Edited January 14, 2018 by Odysseus123

[Thai Ron]

46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sitting on an anonymous forum trying to piss higher up the wall than ......... guys

Isn't that what you are doing?

 

Mate, considering what you wrote earlier............

 

Quote

I never knew what good rumpy was till I fortunately arrived in LOS well past middle age.

I don't even need to unzip my fly

 

[amvet]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That 50,000 US troops died in Vietnam should not be used to make a point. Unfortunately for those that died and were injured, your commanders didn't want to learn any lessons from the British, who had been fighting successful jungle campaigns for many years prior to your entry into that unfortunate country. Killing everything with massive firepower is not better than sneaking around and doing it softly softly.

The Australians knew how to do it properly, and the best thing they did for their troops was refusing Westmoreland's demands to speed up.

Was the "Anti-British, National Liberation War" comparable to the Vietnam war?  America was not the colonial master of Vietnam and the Anti-British, National Liberation War was fought against Chinese whom both the Brits and the Malays considered foreigners as opposed to the Vietnam war which was fought against other Vietnamese.  And that's just for starters.  The Brits  had 200 years in Malaysia to prepare for the war and the Americans had about a half hour.  I think you need some reading about both wars before you are ready to launch into an intelligent discussion of the issues and how they effect the countries today and their desirability as alternatives to Thailand.  For starters I'd read "Bangkok Connection." by Ron Chepesiuk.  Two time Fulbright scholar he has  reported  from  more  than  thirty-five  countries. Westmorland lost the war but not for the reasons you gave and it was lost much earlier.  Good luck and maybe after a couple of years study you can start a thread comparing the two wars and how they shaped everything we are talking about on this thread and many more.  

[amvet]

6 hours ago, JLCrab said:

Great. Did you advise him as to where he can rent a place near the Lotus with the 3 attached discount brothels for the part-time straight-off-the-farm college girls?

Why it's common knowledge.  

[amvet]

2 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

All the above may be true though considering the age range of most expats where I lived (65-70) in a rural area chasing Thai fillies did not occupy the entire day.

 

I have retained firm friends from my days working in the Solomons,Fiji and New Guinea and these have often been in quite large family groups.

 

Indeed I still correspond with a Portuguese family from nigh on 30 years ago.

 

Before I left I tried to set up a connection between a Thai boy (16) and some American friends of mine in the hope that he would correspond with their teenage sons and daughters but he never pursued the option even when it was presented to him on a plate.

 

This is the first time in all my years of travel that I  have retained not a single friend-either foreign or indigenous-as a result of my time "in country".

Funny how people are different.  I retain friends and they are on my Facebook page whom I met in Thailand in 1968 and from business here as recent as 10 years ago.  We talk and write weekly if not daily as a result of shared interests.  I'm helping translate material for a couple of books and playing games as one of the books is about education through game play.  

[Odysseus123]

Just now, amvet said:

Funny how people are different.  I retain friends and they are on my Facebook page whom I met in Thailand in 1968 and from business here as recent as 10 years ago.  We talk and write weekly if not daily as a result of shared interests.  I'm helping translate material for a couple of books and playing games as one of the books is about education through game play.  

Yes-you are correct.They are different.

[JLCrab]

5 minutes ago, amvet said:

Why it's common knowledge.  

And medical insurance isn't? BTW you joined ThaiVisa in April 2017. With all your smart phones and Apps you never heard about it before then even though Google searches about Thailand routinely point to ThaiVisa topics?

Edited January 14, 2018 by JLCrab

[amvet]

9 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

And medical insurance isn't? BTW you joined ThaiVisa in April 2017. With all your smart phones and Apps you never heard about it before then even though Google searches about Thailand routinely point to ThaiVisa topics?

Each person is different.  In his case it was not common knowledge for a variety of reasons that are personal and not to relevant to this discussion.  He thought he was covered but he wasn't.   

[JLCrab]

3 minutes ago, amvet said:

Each person is different. <snip>

That's profound. Whoddathunk?

[amvet]

6 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

That's profound. Whoddathunk?

Do you do other posts besides ad hominum ones?

[JLCrab]

15 minutes ago, amvet said:

Do you do other posts besides ad hominum ones?

I go where there is material and you are a  mother-lode.

 

BTW every time I see your moniker it makes me think of as a kid seeing these trucks in the neighborhood picking up old furniture.

Edited January 14, 2018 by JLCrab

[amvet]

7 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

I go where there is material and you are a  mother-lode.

I've often wondered why Thai Visa doesn't pay me.  I'm a larger draw in terms of generating posts than the folks who get paid to do it.  

[JLCrab]

Keep wondering -- you seem to be good at it.

Edited January 14, 2018 by JLCrab

[jenny2017]

On 1/6/2018 at 5:58 PM, amvet said:

Hef was 91 and probably forgot to take his Viagra.  Although I'll go like Hugh any day at 91.  My point was Viagra and sex don't harm your heart and sex is good exercise regardless of what age you are although you seem to want to deny it to us older folks.  Why? 

 

  Happy Viagra customers here? 

[giddyup]

On 1/7/2018 at 5:06 PM, irish jack said:

love your attitude amvet.i'm 95 .was shot 5 times in war,had three heart attacks,numerous stints and pacemaker. work out lighty 5 days a week. have sex at least 10 times a week.take 4 heart medications and viagro.decided to marry no decease problems to worry .don. 't have to lift a finger to do anything and i'm happy. and i play bridge. the thais i know are great people.

95 and sex 10 times a week? I'm skeptical.

[amvet]

21 minutes ago, giddyup said:

95 and sex 10 times a week? I'm skeptical.

Karma.  The reason he is 95 and sex 10 times a week is he is accepting of others and celebrates their being instead of trying to tear them down.  

[speedtripler]

53 minutes ago, amvet said:

I've often wondered why Thai Visa doesn't pay me.  I'm a larger draw in terms of generating posts than the folks who get paid to do it.  

The government should  give you sibsidy grants too..... 

It's old guys like you who are preventing the economy collapsing by spending your pension here on viagra and ladyboys ..... 

[amvet]

Just now, speedtripler said:

The government should  give you sibsidy grants too..... 

It's old guys like you who are preventing the economy collapsing by spending your pension here on viagra and ladyboys ..... 

And the Viagra is expensive as I buy it from the hospital pharmacy instead of the local guy.  Although I find the local stuff OK if caught in a pinch.  I don't really pay for ladyboys as they are free most of the time.  Women I always pay even if they don't ask or try to give me the money back.  You are probably thinking lady boys like at the Tiffany show but I'm thinking of lady boys like your local hairdresser.  

[speedtripler]

3 minutes ago, amvet said:

And the Viagra is expensive as I buy it from the hospital pharmacy instead of the local guy.  Although I find the local stuff OK if caught in a pinch.  I don't really pay for ladyboys as they are free most of the time.  Women I always pay even if they don't ask or try to give me the money back.  You are probably thinking lady boys like at the Tiffany show but I'm thinking of lady boys like your local hairdresser.  

You should try the generic cialis from India

 

It's very cheap and you could hang a rack of wet leather jackets on your shaft ..... 

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, amvet said:

Karma.  The reason he is 95 and sex 10 times a week is he is accepting of others and celebrates their being instead of trying to tear them down.  

It's a fault of mine that I just don't take everyone at their word, call it part of life's experience. Grow up.

Edited January 14, 2018 by giddyup

[amvet]

20 minutes ago, giddyup said:

It's a fault of mine that I just don't take everyone at their word, call it part of life's experience. Grow up.

I'm as grown up as I'm ever going to be at 73.   I'd never disagree with a person who was 95 whatever they said.  I just hope I get to be that old.  I'd be more interested in keeping him happy and alive rather than disagree with the person and maybe cause him stress.  

 

An old guy came into my office one day after I'd closed.  Angry man.  He asked me to do a big job for him after hours.  I did it just because he was an old guy.  In the morning he died.  Think of how you'd feel if you had refused him. 

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, amvet said:

I'm as grown up as I'm ever going to be at 73.   I'd never disagree with a person who was 95 whatever they said.  I just hope I get to be that old.  I'd be more interested in keeping him happy and alive rather than disagree with the person and maybe cause him stress.  

 

An old guy came into my office one day after I'd closed.  Angry man.  He asked me to do a big job for him after hours.  I did it just because he was an old guy.  In the morning he died.  Think of how you'd feel if you had refused him. 

I'm 75, that's old, 95 is just older. BS is BS, no matter what age you are, but maybe the 95 year old gentleman is a medical miracle, who knows.

[JLCrab]

10 hours ago, giddyup said:

I'm 75, that's old, 95 is just older. BS is BS, no matter what age you are, but maybe the 95 year old gentleman is a medical miracle, who knows.

The guy just said "I'm 95." He never said 95 what -- maybe kg.

[simon43]

This thread has turned into 'ping-pong'. Can we get back on-topic.

Concerning Myanmar, (where I now live and work), some have commented that the place is a sh*thole. Actually, if you stay in a typical Burmese city, then I tend to agree, often overcrowded, unmade roads, too much traffic etc.

Yangon is hugely overcrowded with cars and lorries, and with no underground system, no overhead motorways, no Skytrain etc. Some new flyovers have been constructed, but it is much busier than when I lived there 5 years ago.

The city does have many more foreigners living there now, and as a result, there is a good choice of restaurants to cater for all tastebuds. But I wouldn't want to go and live in Yangon again.

The second city of Mandalay is pretty soulless. After being virtually destroyed in WW2, it was rebuilt on a grid system, but the planners forgot to include green areas within the city boundary. Outside the city there are some very pleasant areas. I worked in Mandalay about 2 years ago, but left because of the lack of green parks and safe cycling.

That brings me to the city of Naypyidaw, where I have been working since 2016. The city is often described as a bizarre place, with 20-lane highways and no people. The last 2 adjectives are correct, but 'bizarre' is a tad of an exaggeration.

I like living in Naypyidaw for a few reasons:

- Lack of traffic
- Legal to ride my motorbike (motorbikes are not allowed in central Yangon)
- Very safe to ride my bike (lots of cycle paths)
- Many green areas and lakes
- Air quality is very good (few cars and few factories)
- Not overcrowded (there is no designated 'centre' of the city)

Of course, there are disadvantages:
- Few foreigners (hang on, shouldn't that be listed under advantages? :)
- Few facilities for foreigners (have to search for shops to buy common items, uncommon things needs a trip to BKK)
- Only 1 flight to/from BKK each day (Bangkok Airways)
- Small choice of restaurants (but there are Shan, Thai, Chinese, Italian, French etc restaurants)

Living in Myanmar is definitely not for the sexpats and not for those in bad health (need to fly to BKK to visit a decent hospital).

Since there currently no retirement visa, I will probably return to live in Thailand or Laos when I retire.

OTOH, there is a 5-year Permanent Resident visa which one can apply for (and be granted), after living here for 3 years. Unless you have committed mass-murder in the country, almost any foreigner will be granted PR if they apply after 5 years. (PR allows one to purchase a condo, but no other important benefits right now).