Why Are You Even Here? The Surprising Attitudes of Some Expats in Thailand

[rooster59]

Trump will not negotiate on immigration until government reopened

 

U.S. President Donald Trump arrives to speak at the annual March for Life rally, taking place on the National Mall, from the White House Rose Garden in Washington, U.S., January 19, 2018. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump will not open negotiations on immigration until Democrats agree to reopen the government, his spokeswoman said on Saturday in a statement.

 

"The president will not negotiate on immigration reform until Democrats stop playing games and reopen the government," Sarah Sanders said.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-01-21

[isaanbanhou]

And after the government is reopened he won t negotiate in good faith

[LomSak27]

The Dems thought they had agreements with Humpty Dumpty three times, only to have him toss it out a couple days later. Why negotiate with a person who doesn't really negotiate?

[PattayaAngel]

Don't like Trump but Dems are holding up funding on an UNRELATED issue. Blackmail is an unpleasant dish whenever served. All it will do is turn people against the Dems for supporting illegal aliens in preference for paying government staff.  What happens when you are illegal in Thailand? or any other country?

[LomSak27]

18 minutes ago, PattayaAngel said:

Don't like Trump but Dems are holding up funding on an UNRELATED issue. Blackmail is an unpleasant dish whenever served. All it will do is turn people against the Dems for supporting illegal aliens in preference for paying government staff.  What happens when you are illegal in Thailand? or any other country?

Looks like you have the exact FOX news quote ... Good Work! hah,

[USPatriot]

1 hour ago, isaanbanhou said:

And after the government is reopened he won t negotiate in good faith

Nor will the democrats

[PattayaAngel]

10 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

Looks like you have the exact FOX news quote ... Good Work! hah,

Oh really?  never look at Fox unlike your good self it seems... but is it true?  (rhetorical because it is obviously true).  Everyone should stop playing politics with government workers salaries and pass the Bill and fight the other issues where they should be fought. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Hope Trump stands firm on this. If he gives in he might as well pack his bags and go back to Florida. The Dems will know that he doesn't have the determination needed to defeat them, and will tear him down every time he tries to do anything.

Go Trump, go.

[isaanbanhou]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Hope Trump stands firm on this. If he gives in he might as well pack his bags and go back to Florida. The Dems will know that he doesn't have the determination needed to defeat them, and will tear him down every time he tries to do anything.

Go Trump, go.

Actually your small handed  @*$$* grabber lived in NYC. He has his name on the front of the building so he can find it easier after a hard nite with Stormy.   Florida is a holiday home.

Edited January 21, 2018 by isaanbanhou

[55Jay]

 

 

[Peterw42]

Interesting Quotes from Citizen Trump in 2013

 

 

 

https://www.snopes.com/trump-criticize-obama-shutdown/

[PattayaAngel]

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

Interesting Quotes from Citizen Trump in 2013

 

 

 

https://www.snopes.com/trump-criticize-obama-shutdown/

 

True but he did control his party and votes are needed from the OTHER party who want to play blackmail with workers salaries which is UNRELATED to illegal aliens.

[Peterw42]

2 minutes ago, PattayaAngel said:

 

True but he did control his party and votes are needed from the OTHER party who want to play blackmail with workers salaries which is UNRELATED to illegal aliens.

Thats the part I dont get, why does a party that controls the congress and senate, need the minor party votes ?

[Enoon]

5 minutes ago, PattayaAngel said:

 

True but he did control his party and votes are needed from the OTHER party who want to play blackmail with workers salaries which is UNRELATED to illegal aliens.

 

"A shutdown means the President is weak"

 

Donald Trump, 2013.

 

 

[malibukid]

Trump needs to start acting presidential, and make good on his word. lol. waiting for the pigs to fly over D.C.

[stevenl]

21 minutes ago, PattayaAngel said:

 

True but he did control his party and votes are needed from the OTHER party who want to play blackmail with workers salaries which is UNRELATED to illegal aliens.

Silly excuses, read his words.

On top of that not correct, he did not control his party.

[PattayaAngel]

2 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Thats the part I dont get, why does a party that controls the congress and senate, need the minor party votes ?

 

Because control does not mean enough votes to pass the Bill (it's not a simple majority)

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Thats the part I dont get, why does a party that controls the congress and senate, need the minor party votes ?

That is just Democrat propaganda and is untrue.

 

Assuming you are serious, the GOP does not have enough senators to pass legislation without Democrat votes. The Democrats will not support the GOP on principle. Nothing gets passed that requires more than a simple majority.

Edited January 21, 2018 by thaibeachlovers

[Becker]

50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That is just Democrat propaganda and is untrue.

 

Assuming you are serious, the GOP does not have enough senators to pass legislation without Democrat votes. The Democrats will not support the GOP on principle. Nothing gets passed that requires more than a simple majority.

Here's a little gift to the man-child supporters who bleet on about how much the despicable one has boosted the economy. Seems he got is a$$ whooped by that uppity black guy in this area as well

 

 

Edited January 21, 2018 by Becker

[stevenl]

58 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That is just Democrat propaganda and is untrue.

 

Assuming you are serious, the GOP does not have enough senators to pass legislation without Democrat votes. The Democrats will not support the GOP on principle. Nothing gets passed that requires more than a simple majority.

Will not support on principle? Nonsense.

 

Democrats and GOP had a proposal that was acceptable to both, but Trump refused it. Hence the mess now.

[ELVIS123456]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That is just Democrat propaganda and is untrue.

 

Assuming you are serious, the GOP does not have enough senators to pass legislation without Democrat votes. The Democrats will not support the GOP on principle. Nothing gets passed that requires more than a simple majority.

Democrat propaganda is always untrue.

 

60 Votes needed - not enough GOP members.

 

But wait a few years - there will be less Dems in the way after 2018 and even less in 2020 when Trump gets another 4 years to continue to MAGA.

 

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Democrat propaganda is always untrue.

 

60 Votes needed - not enough GOP members.

 

But wait a few years - there will be less Dems in the way after 2018 and even less in 2020 when Trump gets another 4 years to continue to MAGA.

 

Somebody else asked the question, but there was no answer. Since you mention it again: what is a Great America, the America that was and you want back?

[Becker]

5 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Democrat propaganda is always untrue.

 

60 Votes needed - not enough GOP members.

 

But wait a few years - there will be less Dems in the way after 2018 and even less in 2020 when Trump gets another 4 years to continue to MAGA.

 

Yes, the mid terms will be a disaster for the dems

 

And why can't any of you man-child supporters just grow a pair and come out and say it:

MAWA!

 

 

BTW, this is from Faux News:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-host-shep-smith-122253723.html

Edited January 21, 2018 by Becker

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, PattayaAngel said:

he did control his party

No he did not.

Four Republicans, including Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Mike Lee of Utah, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul also opposed the measure.

Trump also refused a bipartisan bill that he solicited and promised to sign out of his trust for bipartisanship.

In fact Trump is not in control of his party:

"President Trump appeared to throw a wrench into congressional budget negotiations on Thursday morning — tweeting a policy position fundamentally at odds with that of Republicans on the Hill."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/18/16905080/trump-chip-government-shutdown

 

[PhonThong]

8 hours ago, PattayaAngel said:

Oh really?  never look at Fox unlike your good self it seems... but is it true?  (rhetorical because it is obviously true).  Everyone should stop playing politics with government workers salaries and pass the Bill and fight the other issues where they should be fought. 

 The Democrats are showing how much they support the troops.

They just don't want to pay them!

[Slip]

10 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

 The Democrats are showing how much they support the troops.

They just don't want to pay them!

I've posted this on another thread today so apologies to any who have seen it already.  Who is it who doesn't want to pay the troops again?  Who engineered the shut down again?  The GOP even spiked it with their own guys in case too many dems vote in favour.
 

 

[PhonThong]

14 minutes ago, Slip said:

I've posted this on another thread today so apologies to any who have seen it already.  Who is it who doesn't want to pay the troops again?  Who engineered the shut down again?  The GOP even spiked it with their own guys in case too many dems vote in favour.
 

 

Democrats Won’t Support CR Without DACA Deal, Hoyer Says

 

 

They would only go along with passage if DACA was included.

Paying the troops on the back of illegals getting a free pass is not a deal maker...

Edited January 21, 2018 by PhonThong

[Slip]

6 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

They would only go along with passage if DACA was included.

Paying the troops on the back of illegals getting a free pass is not a deal maker...

Can you post a link showing any evidence of that? I can't find the text of the amendment, S McCaskill makes no mention of DACA in her speech, and it was tabled by her (democrat), with 48 dem co-sponsors, so not really sure how that would be 'going along with it'.

[PhonThong]

16 minutes ago, Slip said:

Can you post a link showing any evidence of that? I can't find the text of the amendment, S McCaskill makes no mention of DACA in her speech, and it was tabled by her (democrat), with 48 dem co-sponsors, so not really sure how that would be 'going along with it'.

But, Hoyer did!

[Slip]

Just now, PhonThong said:

But, Hoyer did!

We are talking about 2 different things.  The relevant part of my post was the video at the bottom which was on topic in response to your post- (hint it is about the military that you say the dems don't want to pay).  Mcconnell nixed McCaskill's bill to get the military paid anyway.  No mention of DACA in her bill as far as I can ascertain.