Kieran00001 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, sanemax said: Another "mafia" ? Why cant they just call them criminals , rather then "mafia" ? Mafia has a defined meaning, it means a lot more than criminal, mafias are organised syndicates who provide arbitration within their network or criminals. Do you think this looks like a typical street crime, a robbery perhaps, or do you think this looks like an organized hit that;s sole purpose was to kill? If the latter then it would imply the work of a mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikomat Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, sanemax said: Quite an unprofessional hit . As if you would execute it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Interesting they couldn't get to them at their home so they chose their vacation location. Thailand is one of only a few countries these people can actually have a Holiday in and this is how they behave ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, FitnessHealthTravel said: Interesting they couldn't get to them at their home so they chose their vacation location. Thailand is one of only a few countries these people can actually have a Holiday in and this is how they behave ;-) There are 197 countries Israeli's can have a holiday in, there are only 16 which have banned them and not many of them are holiday destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Zikomat said: As if you would execute it better. I am not an assassin , but I do think that the basics would be to make sure that there were no CCTVs around , do it in a secluded spot with no witnesses and dont use a car to run people over as that will cause damage to the car and that is evidence . *Locate, hit, disappear* and leave no evidence behind and have an escape route , seems the basics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Mafia, that`s a laugh. These are just gangs of criminal thugs. The amount of foreign scum that are in Thailand now and gaining footholds here amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This was not an organized Israeli mafia hit. This was some thugs getting revenge over some dispute. An organized Israeli hit would never be this amateurish and the hit men would never get caught! These were criminal gangsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, sanemax said: Another "mafia" ? Why cant they just call them criminals , rather then "mafia" ? Agreed, but mafia has is an expression associated with organized crime, not just the original Calabrian mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I seem to recall news a while back about some Israelis running a business in Phuket or Koh Samui with out a business permit seems foreign gangs are everywhere Russians Brits ect so much for good guys in bad guys out they are every where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, FitnessHealthTravel said: Interesting they couldn't get to them at their home so they chose their vacation location. Thailand is one of only a few countries these people can actually have a Holiday in and this is how they behave ;-) Where did you get that moronic idea? Israelis are big world travelers but I have noticed a pattern of adventurous risk taking in their travels. Not talking about crime, all nationals have some criminals, but more like getting lost hiking in the wilderness, accidents with outdoor daredevil activities, etc. Overconfidence can be fatal. Edited January 22, 2018 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said: Agreed, but mafia has is an expression associated with organized crime, not just the original Calabrian mafia. Although IMO , I do think that "Mafia" should only refer to Italian/American crime organisations . Its like calling every biker gang Hells Angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said: Agreed, but mafia has is an expression associated with organized crime, not just the original Calabrian mafia. The original was the Sicilian mafia, but the Mafia in Calabria followed close behind. And the term is specifically connected with arbitration not just a basic organization of crime, what all mafias have in common is extrajudicial hearings and punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 The original was the Sicilian mafia, but the Mafia in Calabria followed close behind. And the term is specifically connected with arbitration not just a basic organization of crime, what all mafias have in common is extrajudicial hearings and punishments.Google is great...thanks.Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 " a car slamming into Maor Maluon's motorcycle repeatedly," Not in my Video ....one time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky mike Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Maybe retired Mossad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 In any case, there is no problem at all using the word mafia to describe groups other than the original Italians. It's not like the word champagne where similar drinks need to be called sparkling wine for legal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: In any case, there is no problem at all using the word mafia to describe groups other than the original Italians. It's not like the word champagne where similar drinks need to be called sparkling wine for legal reasons. The thing is though, everyone in Thailand gets labelled with being Mafia . Some guy who rents out jet-skis by the beach and charges people for a scratch on the Jet-ski, suddenly becomes "Mafia" Taxi drivers not putting their meters on , suddenly become Mafiosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Bored to death of going out in samui and place is full of people who don't seem to work or cant tell you what they do for a living here etc. Thankfully balance is still in plus for decent people here !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOWHERE Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: The thing is though, everyone in Thailand gets labelled with being Mafia . Some guy who rents out jet-skis by the beach and charges people for a scratch on the Jet-ski, suddenly becomes "Mafia" Taxi drivers not putting their meters on , suddenly become Mafiosi Fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 hours ago, sanemax said: I am not an assassin , but I do think that the basics would be to make sure that there were no CCTVs around , do it in a secluded spot with no witnesses and dont use a car to run people over as that will cause damage to the car and that is evidence . *Locate, hit, disappear* and leave no evidence behind and have an escape route , seems the basics I think carrying out in public was sort of the point. Sending a message and all that. From the OP and other reports, seems like this is tied to past feuds between rival organizations/families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Morch said: I think carrying out in public was sort of the point. Sending a message and all that. From the OP and other reports, seems like this is tied to past feuds between rival organizations/families. I would have thought that the assassins not getting caught "red handed" would have been the main priority , both to the killers and too the people that were behind it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 hours ago, sanemax said: Another "mafia" ? Why cant they just call them criminals , rather then "mafia" ? ...because it's common sense that all mafiosi are criminals, however not all criminals are mafiosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, sanemax said: I would have thought that the assassins not getting caught "red handed" would have been the main priority , both to the killers and too the people that were behind it . From the assassins' point of view, certainly. From their bosses' - only if the connection could be traced and proven. I think that on at least some occasions, such actions are also about face, reputation and such. Edited January 22, 2018 by Morch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasswort Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If these people are known to be criminals how did they enter the country and, apart from the obvious reason why are they allowed to remain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, glasswort said: If these people are known to be criminals how did they enter the country and, apart from the obvious reason why are they allowed to remain? Did they ask you if you had a criminal record when you entered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 All very, very messy and public display. Not much thought went into that and this is why they will spend most of their lives behind bars...in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieqw Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 hours ago, shackleton said: I seem to recall news a while back about some Israelis running a business in Phuket or Koh Samui with out a business permit seems foreign gangs are everywhere Russians Brits ect so much for good guys in bad guys out they are every where When I put my house on the market the estate agent told me their was a lot of buying going on by Israelis , this is in a small town in east anglia UKi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Darcula said: Also known as the Kosher Nostra. At last. Someone with wit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, cookieqw said: When I put my house on the market the estate agent told me their was a lot of buying going on by Israelis , this is in a small town in east anglia UKi What relevance does that have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, sanemax said: The thing is though, everyone in Thailand gets labelled with being Mafia . Some guy who rents out jet-skis by the beach and charges people for a scratch on the Jet-ski, suddenly becomes "Mafia" Taxi drivers not putting their meters on , suddenly become Mafiosi In this case an assassination is being labelled as being mafioso, does that not at least satisfy you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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