PhuketSarah Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, evadgib said: I don't need a translation to see how defensive some men are of this reprehensible behavior. I'm sure many do lament the days when women would put up with it, but those days are passing. #TimesUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said: We're in Thailand, there's loads of ladyboys that think it's OK to grab me crotch as I'm walking by in a public road. God knows what they would do if I dressed up as a prostitute in a ladyboy only event. Anyway, this was a men only event, if the reporter hadn't snuck in, there would have been no objections from the hired hookers. The same can be said for airport security checks (female staff having a good poke with or without the lollypop. Try doing that when the sexes are reversed!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuketSarah Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, MaeJoMTB said: We're in Thailand, there's loads of ladyboys that think it's OK to grab me crotch as I'm walking by in a public road. God knows what they would do if I dressed up as a prostitute in a ladyboy only event. Anyway, this was a men only event, if the reporter hadn't snuck in, there would have been no objections from the hired hookers. Ladyboys are men, right? The women were hired as hostesses/servers Prostitutes work as prostitutes- If they are attractive, they aren't going to teeter around in heels all evening being groped for crappy pay. One presumes these women were hired for their looks? If they are prostitutes, they can go on a date and make 4 times the money for their time- or more. But these are women just looking for a job, being groped should not go along. Thankfully most of the world now understands. Of course Thai sexpats are holding out but eventually even Thai women will tire of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuketSarah Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, evadgib said: The same can be said for airport security checks (female staff having a good poke with or without the lollypop. Try doing that when the sexes are reversed!) Sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said: One presumes these women were hired for their looks? If they are prostitutes, they can go on a date and make 4 times the money for their time- or more. I thought they were prostitutes looking for the opportunity to interact with a certain type of man. What they were paid upfront was the 'barfine', the real money would be gained later in the short-time room. Yes, there are some bargirls that don't go home with customers, but they still expect/tolerate a grope or two. There are 'drinky girls' in the Philippines, where sex is not on sale and it's all about gropes. Korea has 'coffee bars' where you can sit and touch a pretty girl. I'm not sure what job title they would have? But certainly the London event was somewhere between the two extremes and they are sex workers of some description. Edited January 28, 2018 by MaeJoMTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said: I thought they were prostitutes looking for the opportunity to interact with a certain type of man. What they were paid upfront was the 'barfine', the real money would be gained later in the short-time room.. might explain why none have made a complaint to police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said: Ladyboys are men, right? The women were hired as hostesses/servers Prostitutes work as prostitutes- If they are attractive, they aren't going to teeter around in heels all evening being groped for crappy pay. One presumes these women were hired for their looks? If they are prostitutes, they can go on a date and make 4 times the money for their time- or more. But these are women just looking for a job, being groped should not go along. Thankfully most of the world now understands. Of course Thai sexpats are holding out but eventually even Thai women will tire of it. Get over yourself.... I'm pretty sure I was a feminist before you were born - and I'm still a feminist. Even so, these girls employed as hostesses knew the 'working environment' and accepted this as the job offered extremely good pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said: I thought they were prostitutes looking for the opportunity to interact with a certain type of man. What they were paid upfront was the 'barfine', the real money would be gained later in the short-time room.. Disagree entirely. They were attractive women happy to accept high wages (plus tips) for working in a go-go type environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: Disagree entirely. They were attractive women happy to accept high wages (plus tips) for working in a go-go type environment. The reporter wasn't all that attractive, I certainly wouldn't have hired her, groped her or offered her money for sex. Can't imagine the 'rich men' were that desperate. Wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing wasn't set up from start to finish with some sort of conspiracy between the the hiring company, the newspaper and the event organizers. Edited January 28, 2018 by MaeJoMTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: I'm pretty sure I was a feminist before you were born - and I'm still a feminist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The reporter wasn't all that attractive, I certainly wouldn't have hired her, groped her or offered her money for sex. Can't imagine the 'rich men' were that desperate. Wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing wasn't set up from start to finish.Probably when they got the 'beer goggles ' on she looked a million dollars. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Sick and tired of these moaning women that cry, Me Too and sexual harassment at even given opportunity. The newspaper, which sent two people undercover to work at the event, said hostesses were told to wear skimpy black dresses with matching underwear before being paraded in front of braying men. - Surely that should have been an indicator of what they were to expect as hostesses at this charity gala. These women had a choice of turning down the job, go through with it anyway, then claim sexual harassment as if it came as a complete shock to them. It was a a jolly boys night out where drinking and girls are part and parcel of the package. It`s been that way for many years, stag dos and in men`s club, now suddenly this has all become unacceptable. Simple, if women don`t like heat, then take jobs as cashiers in stores and cease being hostesses at men`s clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, cyberfarang said: Sick and tired of these moaning women that cry, Me Too and sexual harassment at even given opportunity. The newspaper, which sent two people undercover to work at the event, said hostesses were told to wear skimpy black dresses with matching underwear before being paraded in front of braying men. - Surely that should have been an indicator of what they were to expect as hostesses at this charity gala. These women had a choice of turning down the job, go through with it anyway, then claim sexual harassment as if it came as a complete shock to them. It was a a jolly boys night out where drinking and girls are part and parcel of the package. It`s been that way for many years, stag dos and in men`s club, now suddenly this has all become unacceptable. Simple, if women don`t like heat, then take jobs as cashiers in stores and cease being hostesses at men`s clubs. The girls employed didn't "claim sexual harassment" - the FT reporters were outraged on their behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, PhuketSarah said: I don't need a translation to see how defensive some men are of this reprehensible behavior. I'm sure many do lament the days when women would put up with it, but those days are passing. #TimesUp Have you been to a Hen party before ? Where they have male strippers dressed like fireman ? Where the ladies grope the guys ? Are you going to tell them to stop doing that as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, PhuketSarah said: I don't need a translation to see how defensive some men are of this reprehensible behavior. I'm sure many do lament the days when women would put up with it, but those days are passing. #TimesUp What a hogwash of crap. We all have certain responsibilities to ourselves, that is to not place ourselves in vulnerable situations that may compromise our safety or make us feel uncomfortable. I would not walk into a lions den because that would be stupid for obvious reasons. The same applies to women, don`t walk into the lions den offering themselves as bait or as a tease and expect not to be attacked. It`s the same for women that that work in beerbars, happy ending massage parlours, do porn, online cam shows, send inappropriate images of themselves and then cry sexual harassment when their reputations become exposed. The old saying; boys will be boys, and girls will be girls, that`s the way it is and that`s the way it`s always been. The leftist, feminist do gooders will never change the habits that go back to the times of Adam and Eve. If certain young women command more respect from men, then they must stop portraying themselves in sexual ways. Otherwise the show will go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) It used to be if it looks like a duck,talks like a duck walk like a duck good chance it is a duck. Now a days if a woman dress's like a whore,talks like a whore acts like a whore if any man reacts to the whore image he is an animal and should be put away what crap Edited January 28, 2018 by lovelomsak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Have you been to a Hen party before ? Where they have male strippers dressed like fireman ? Where the ladies grope the guys ? Are you going to tell them to stop doing that as well ? In the UK they are now wanting to ban the 'walk on' girls at big darts matches.They will want to ban the 'Carry On' films next. What next? Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, lovelomsak said: It used to be if it looks like a duck,talks like a duck walk like a duck good chance it is a duck. Now a days if a woman dress's like a whore,talks like a whore acts like a whore if any man reacts to the whore image he is an animal and should be put away what crap Certainly the above attempt at an argument sounds like a dead duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, roo860 said: In the UK they are now wanting to ban the 'walk on' girls at big darts matches. They will want to ban the 'Carry On' films next. What next? "Feminists" campaigning to stop other Females from working . "Walk-on" girls at a sports event want to work , other woman telling them that they shouldnt . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, lovelomsak said: It used to be if it looks like a duck,talks like a duck walk like a duck good chance it is a duck. Now a days if a woman dress's like a whore,talks like a whore acts like a whore if any man reacts to the whore image he is an animal and should be put away what crap They were dressed the same a Croupier would dress at a Casino. Are they whores too and should be expected to be groped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Kadilo said: They were dressed the same a Croupier would dress at a Casino. Are they whores too and should be expected to be groped? There were channels for the girls to make a complaint , they were told to report any men who became annoying . How many complained ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, roo860 said: In the UK they are now wanting to ban the 'walk on' girls at big darts matches. They will want to ban the 'Carry On' films next. What next? Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app download them all quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, sanemax said: There were channels for the girls to make a complaint , they were told to report any men who became annoying . How many complained ? zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Back in my younger days once a year our football club used to arrange a stag night. The show involved a male comedian who would tell blue jokes followed by 2 or 3 female striptease artists undressing and often performing lesbian girl on girl sexual acts on stage and actively mingling among the male audience naked encouraging men to fondle them and even inviting guys on stage to perform sexual acts with them as us lads cheered them on. In those times it was thought to be a harmless lads night out, the men drank and enjoyed the female eye candy and shows and the girls got paid, no harm done, most of the guys did not go over the top like try to rape the girls or anything like that, lines were drawn, everyone was happy all round. Even our wives and girlfriends knew where we were going and what for. I am sure those shows still go on today. Now suddenly the do gooders have decided the nasty men that go to such shows are all perverts and sex beasts and the girls are all innocent victims of sexual abuse and taken advantage of. Providing all parties involved are consenting adults and the women are in knowledge of exactly what they`re taking on when working these jobs, then why don`t these leftist do gooder feminist activists simply shut up and stop sticking their big noses in plus discrediting the guys as if the blame is a one sided argument and p*ss off. They are taking PC and so-called moral correctness up to new levels and one good reason why I would not return to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: so-called moral correctness up to new levels the new puritanism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: Really??? Seriously depressing that you would stoop that low in your directly personal comment.... It's really not that hard to answer the points raised, rather than resorting to personal insults. My suspicion is that the poster is a little younger than some to whom she thinks she has replied... Edited January 28, 2018 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, sanemax said: There were channels for the girls to make a complaint , they were told to report any men who became annoying . How many complained ? I have no idea and nor do you. There is an ongoing police inverstigation so I guess we will find out in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kadilo said: There is an ongoing police inverstigation Since when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kadilo said: I have no idea and nor do you. There is an ongoing police inverstigation so I guess we will find out in due course. Unlikely, that would be a real career killer .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I have no idea and nor do you. There is an ongoing police inverstigation so I guess we will find out in due course. No there is not.where did you hear that on twater?Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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