Marriage to foreigners not all it's cracked up to be complains Isaan woman stuck in Farangland!

[Fish Head Soup]

14 minutes ago, MrY said:

Hey, Transsexual and Transgender are not the same or interchangeable. So if someone says TS, then that is probably what they mean. Neither one is a derogatory term either.

Same same but different.

[watcharacters]

6 minutes ago, MrY said:

 

YES. Every statement should be taken in it's context. (You just happened to group my remark with someone else's. They were quite dissimilar.)

 

 

I'll go along with that claim but I believe you quoted me and at the same time included a post you'd made.

 

I just wish there could be a complete relaxing of  focus on those whose sexual orientation may not fall within  the mainstream.      I'm sure that'll come to pass but I doubt I'll  ever see it.    

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MrY]

16 minutes ago, MrY said:

 

YES. Every statement should be taken in it's context. (You just happened to group my remark with someone else's. They were quite dissimilar.)

 

5 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

I'll go along with that claim but I believe you quoted me and at the same time included a post you'd made.

 

I just wish there could be a complete relaxing of  focus on those whose sexual orientation may not fall within  the mainstream.      I'm sure that'll come to pass but I doubt I'll  ever see it.   

 

I quoted a chain of comments [including my own]. For context.

 

The subject of sexual orientation will remain confusing to most, and not the least to those that do not understand their's...

[observer90210]

Both in the couple, made the wrong choice for their partner,

[MrY]

2 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Have watched this girl's video 5 times now, (almost to the point where I feel like I'm starting to get to know her ).

 

I struggled with her unfamiliar Isaan dialect. Her nick name is Faa (Sky). She and her husband have at least two kids. She is definitely not complaining. She is definitely not bitter or angry or acting like she was deceived before moving abroad. In fact, she seemed reasonably content from what I can tell from the video. The place where she is living looks pretty decent just from what little of the furnishings you can see.

 

Her message in the video tape is "we have enough to live on and to take care of ourselves and our kids, but I want all my friends back home to know that if you think having a foreign husband means you are going to be living on easy street that's probably not going to happen.' She proceeds to rattle off examples of how expensive things are, but this is not done in a plaintive manner but to educate everyone back home about the realities of living abroad. She does tell everybody all of the things she has to do for herself like cooking, and child care, etc., but again this isn't done with a plaintive tone but trying to educate her friends. I couldn't find anywhere where she was complaining about not having a maid (maybe I missed it because of the dialect.)

 

The tone of her message is not much different than if an American on social security married a Thai girl in Thailand, and sent a Facebook message to his near-retirement buddies back home saying 'I'm doing fine: we have a nice house, eat good food, and splurge every once in a while, but if anybody back home thinks that by moving to Thailand on a government pension you'll be living like the King of Siam, they better think again.' That's all the girl was saying.

 

I showed the video to my wife, and she has now sent it to a few of her friends and relatives in the "find me a farang too" crowd as an example of what to realistically expect from life away from Thailand. So the video is spreading out as intended, but for reasons quite different from what most posters on this thread would think.

[nausea]

Well knock me down with a feather, life in the West isn't all it's cracked up to be - here's a hint, I'm here, in Thailand, I left paradise to cum here. 

[MrY]

2 minutes ago, nausea said:

Well knock me down with a feather, life in the West isn't all it's cracked up to be - here's a hint, I'm here, in Thailand, I left paradise to cum here. 

 

And that's the point of the video. She ain't complaining...

[talahtnut]

15 hours ago, strewth mick said:

They are trying to say that Thailand is more developed than people give it credit for. They talk about the fact that many Asians now partake in tourism to Europe. Whilst demographics are changing I disagree with a few things this person says. The reality is that a huge chunk of the world are living on very small incomes which means they can't afford luxuries such as travel. This includes China and Thailand. They say there are more hookers in Europe than in Thailand....I disagree with this too.

Well done Mick, I got the message too.. certainly better than my Thai attempts here.   BTW I believe hes right about pros in UK,  but as there are legal complications,  its normally  a discreet occupation..with enticing rewards.

[samsensam]

On 03/02/2018 at 4:48 AM, JoePai said:

And that attitude to life sums up most Thai girls - and boys 

 

i guess your interaction with thai females is confined to girls from a lower class background and of limited education - and to be honest that's a pity because you're missing out on a lot.

 

my thai female friends are middle class professionals most have studied master degrees in the uk or usa and almost all have travelled abroad on holiday or for business. these thai females are absolutely clear on what life is like in the west which is why very few of them are keen to a) marry a foreigner or leave thailand.

 

this distinction between the lady in the article and thai females from a middle class and/or  educated background is important.

[Fish Head Soup]

2 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

 its normally  a discreet occupation..with enticing rewards.

STD's and the chance of being strangled or beaten to death and left in a motorway layby?

 

Enticing indeed.

[473geo]

8 minutes ago, Fish Head Soup said:

STD's and the chance of being strangled or beaten to death and left in a motorway layby?

 

Enticing indeed.

Perhaps you've been visiting the rougher end bargain basement

Edited February 4, 2018 by 473geo

[473geo]

11 minutes ago, MrY said:

 

And that's the point of the video. She ain't complaining...

I think after 300+ posts the message is finally getting across

[lcp0761]

Marriage to foreigners not all it's cracked up to be complains Isaan woman stuck in Farangland!
 

Image: Phenkhao
  An Isaan country girl has gone on Facebook to moan about life with a foreign man abroad.   It is just not the bed of roses that she imagined.   Everything is not laid on for her all day so she can sleep and eat.   She explains in North Eastern dialect as a warning to others:   She has to take responsibility for herself.   She has to look after her own child.   Things are not done for her - there appear to be no maids in Meuang farang ("Farangland")   There are no regular handouts of cash and gifts.   "What's more - things are expensive - and I mean expensive," she says. "What you can find in the markets of Isaan to eat for five or ten baht costs 100 baht.    "There are none of the things that we can find for free growing in the wild.   "A dinner at a restaurant that might cost 100 or 200 in Thailand is 1,000 baht a head. It sets you back 6,000 for the family to eat", said the unnamed woman who was wearing a T-shirt indicating she might be in Germany.   She continued: "It's not "sabai, sabai" like Thailand. In Thailand everyone calls each other auntie or uncle, brother and sister - not here".   Pictures of the woman looking pregnant on a beach probably in Thailand went with the Phenkhao aricle.   Phenkhao chipped in that marrying a farang (white Caucasian) was the dream of many Thai women. They thought it meant an easy and comfortable life that would help to raise the standard of living of those left back home in Thailand.   But, they added, the fact is many Thai women find out it is just a dream. Reality is different.   Source: Phenkhao     -- [emoji767] Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-03

For the 1st 7-Years of our marriage we relocated to the USA (Washington, DC) where my wife worked. The money she earned she used it for miscellaneous expenses for herself and I paid for all other expenses with my salary. In addition to the change of seasons (to include winter) she worked 12+hours a day x 6 day’s a week. We did this for 7-years which taught her the American life style, lots of jobs if your willing to work. All paid off for us as my job allowed me to retire at 56-years old and now we’ve relocated to a Thailand where my US retirement goes a long way (were able to purchase a nice house and live very comfortably).


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[473geo]

5 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

i guess your interaction with thai females is confined to girls from a lower class background and of limited education - and to be honest that's a pity because you're missing out on a lot.

 

my thai female friends are middle class professionals most have studied master degrees in the uk or usa and almost all have travelled abroad on holiday or for business. these thai females are absolutely clear on what life is like in the west which is why very few of them are keen to a) marry a foreigner or leave thailand.

 

this distinction between the lady in the article and thai females from a middle class and/or  educated background is important.

Of course "this distinction between the lady in the article and thai females from a middle class and/or  educated background is important"

It all comes down to available options - some have an easier road to travel than others regarding lifestyle choices

[Fish Head Soup]

10 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

i guess your interaction with thai females is confined to girls from a lower class background and of limited education - and to be honest that's a pity because you're missing out on a lot.

 

my thai female friends are middle class professionals most have studied master degrees in the uk or usa and almost all have travelled abroad on holiday or for business. these thai females are absolutely clear on what life is like in the west which is why very few of them are keen to a) marry a foreigner or leave thailand.

 

this distinction between the lady in the article and thai females from a middle class and/or  educated background is important.

Nothing worse than a farang who tries to play the class game in Thailand. It's ugly and unfortunate and to come to a country and look down upon others because of their lack of opportunities through circumstances out of their control is the epitome of ignorance.

 

Edit - As for limited education, is not the education of everyone limited?

Edited February 4, 2018 by Fish Head Soup

[MrY]

4 minutes ago, 473geo said:

I think after 300+ posts the message is finally getting across

 

300 only? I thought I alone posted that many on this thread! I think half of my posts ever  on TV were in the last 24 hours...

[norrska]

this same story gets recycled and published every year

[bkk6060]

Just now, samsensam said:

 

i guess your interaction with thai females is confined to girls from a lower class background and of limited education - and to be honest that's a pity because you're missing out on a lot.

 

my thai female friends are middle class professionals most have studied master degrees in the uk or usa and almost all have travelled abroad on holiday or for business. these thai females are absolutely clear on what life is like in the west which is why very few of them are keen to a) marry a foreigner or leave thailand.

 

this distinction between the lady in the article and thai females from a middle class and/or  educated background is important.

Oh, they sound so good but not from my experience.  I know many of the ladies you described,  mostly in Bangkok.  Lawyers, cops, bank managers, etc. Funny how they are all single with basically Facebook lives.

Snotty, stuckup and phoney.

Thai man no good, falang too old just want sex blah blah.

These wantabe hiso girls are absolutely no better then any others for relationship purposes.

They are not keen on the west because reading about a place on the Internet, is not real life.

They all think they deserve to be taken care of which in attitude and laziness by far, they make the worst mates.

Every last guy I know who is with one of these type girls is miserable.

They are no better but in their minds.....and yours it appears.....

[strewth mick]

17 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Oh, they sound so good but not from my experience.  I know many of the ladies you described,  mostly in Bangkok.  Lawyers, cops, bank managers, etc. Funny how they are all single with basically Facebook lives.

Snotty, stuckup and phoney.

Thai man no good, falang too old just want sex blah blah.

These wantabe hiso girls are absolutely no better then any others for relationship purposes.

They are not keen on the west because reading about a place on the Internet, is not real life.

They all think they deserve to be taken care of which in attitude and laziness by far, they make the worst mates.

Every last guy I know who is with one of these type girls is miserable.

They are no better but in their minds.....and yours it appears.....

I agree with everything you say bkk6060

 

I cringe when I see the way some guys grovel to their stuck-up girlfriends in Bangkok.

[talahtnut]

15 hours ago, strewth mick said:

I agree with everything you say bkk6060

 

I cringe when I see the way some guys grovel to their stuck-up girlfriends in Bangkok.

A good test is to give a woman a living plant in a pot and wait.  If it frourishes, she is ok. If it withers and dies.. run.  

[MrY]

13 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

A good test is to give a woman a living plant in a pot and wait.  If it frourishes, she is ok. If it withers and dies.. run.  

 

Note to self: Give pot to girls you like and see what happens.

 

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

Edited February 4, 2018 by MrY
for inability to form proper sentences

[Russell17au]

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

A good test is to give a woman a living plant in a pot and wait.  If it frourishes, she is ok. If it withers and dies.. run.  

What about a woman that keeps taking your pots and pulling out the dead plants and planting seeds and getting them to flourish and then picks the plants and cooks them. But she also go to work 6 days a week and buys meat at the market near where she works out of her own money. Is she a good woman to have?

[IztwanGurob]

If she thinks restaurant food is expensive in Germany, she is welcome to Sweden (more expensive) or Norway (very expensive).

[473geo]

4 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

What about a woman that keeps taking your pots and pulling out the dead plants and planting seeds and getting them to flourish and then picks the plants and cooks them. But she also go to work 6 days a week and buys meat at the market near where she works out of her own money. Is she a good woman to have?

 

Only if you are happy to spend limited time with her

 

[Fish Head Soup]

14 minutes ago, IztwanGurob said:

If she thinks restaurant food is expensive in Germany, she is welcome to Sweden (more expensive) or Norway (very expensive).

Too many problems in Sweden because of an uncontrolled influx of refugees. Security, health, jobs, housing, education and integration all huge problems that look like only getting worse in Sweden. The country is in deep trouble and is sinking fast. It doesn't look like it can be saved, so they can keep their expensive plate of meatballs, I would rather pass.

[jenny2017]

15 minutes ago, Fish Head Soup said:

Too many problems in Sweden because of an uncontrolled influx of refugees. Security, health, jobs, housing, education and integration all huge problems that look like only getting worse in Sweden. The country is in deep trouble and is sinking fast. It doesn't look like it can be saved, so they can keep their expensive plate of meatballs, I would rather pass.

Enjoy your fish head soup then.....

[talahtnut]

15 hours ago, Russell17au said:

What about a woman that keeps taking your pots and pulling out the dead plants and planting seeds and getting them to flourish and then picks the plants and cooks them. But she also go to work 6 days a week and buys meat at the market near where she works out of her own money. Is she a good woman to have?

She should fire you.

[lcp0761]

Of course "this distinction between the lady in the article and thai females from a middle class and/or  educated background is important"
It all comes down to available options - some have an easier road to travel than others regarding lifestyle choices

My Thai wife has a BS degree from a Thai Univ but was unable to obtain a white collar job as most of the jobs in the DC area are either Govt, military or a contractor to either. All of our pre-travel discussions went on deaf ears due to culture & weather shock. Maybe middle America would be different.


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[ericthai]

15 hours ago, inThailand said:

Marriage to foreigners not all it's cracked up to be complains Isaan woman stuck in Farangland!

 

Wouldn't many falangs say the same about marrying an Isaan woman? And it's not a free ride?

I dont think any expats are looking for a free ride when marrying a Thai.  Almost all know it's going to cost them money!

 

[boomerangutang]

A number of years ago, I met a very cute Thai hill tribe gal.  She was 21 but looked 17.  We liked each other, but she wanted to go with me to settle in the US.  I told her I wanted to continue to reside in Thailand.  There was more to it, but she wound up meeting a Canadian fellow, and went there as his wife.  She now has Canadian citizenship.  Her and I are still friends, and I've met her Canadian husband (nice guy).  I'm still attracted to the woman, but I accept the earlier scenario, where I chose to stay in Thailand, and therefore bolloxed my chance to be with the very cute and sexy lady.  

 

She's not jazzed about residing in Canada.  It's the cold and lack of warm people (and being away from her family in Thailand) which leave her cold.  I think she's got a 'geek' (friend for sex) now - an Indian fellow, closer to her age.  They may be scheming to run off to NYC together.   Life goes on.......