1 minute ago, baboon said:

When you can face years for clicking 'Like' or writing "Ja" on Facebook. When you can be hauled away for "Eating a sandwich with political intent", when you can be prosecuted for violating the ban on gatherings of groups of five people or more by gathering in groups of less than five or even on your own, why bother risking it?

I remember about the sandwich saga, but seeing it written as "Eating a sandwich with political intent", makes you realise how pathetic the situation has been made by our very own Kim Jong- Prayuth.

16 minutes ago, robblok said:

That what your talking about was less majesty, that is always dangerous here. All your other option are for real life things not online things. 

 

I think either it was not given enough media coverage or what i hear from several people around me is that they just don't care anymore as whoever is in power robs the country blind anyway.  

It is quite possible your theories are correct, but my point still stands - dissenters can be carted off if there is even suspicion that they might come close to coming close to breaking any 'law'. Nobody really knows where they stand (which is exactly as intended), so why take the chance?

 

I am reminded of Winston Smith keeping his diary. Not illegal, but punishable by death or 25 years in the camps....

Edited February 16, 20188 yr by baboon

25 minutes ago, robblok said:

Have you not read my first post in this topic... it stated I want him gone. 

Apologies, tv is not my life.

time for some AA

4 minutes ago, baboon said:

It is quite possible your theories are correct, but my point still stands - dissenters can be carted off if there is even suspicion that they might come close to coming close to breaking any 'law'. Nobody really knows where they stand (which is exactly as intended), so why take the chance?

Why take a chance.. people would only take a chance if they feel that by taking a chance they can change something... I don't think they feel they can change anything... suppose he steps down... then an other equally corrupt guy will take his place. 

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Why take a chance.. people would only take a chance if they feel that by taking a chance they can change something... I don't think they feel they can change anything... suppose he steps down... then an other equally corrupt guy will take his place. 

Yes, a good deal of truth to that.

5 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

Apologies, tv is not my life.

No need to apologize, i want him and every other corrupt official gone.. i just don't see it happening.. 

 

Today we were driving home and they were remaking a road.. gf said the road was only 3 years old and commented on how nothing ever changes here and those in power (no matter what political color) want to keep it that way. 

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I must say I want Prawit to leave but I don't think 80.000 signatures is a lot given there are millions of Thais. Maybe the campaign was not publicized widely enough. 

It wouldn't be difficult to fake 80,000 signatures in an online campaign. They are meaningless unless they can be authenticated. Signature campaigns, particularly online, are usually a waste of time.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

No need to apologize, i want him and every other corrupt official gone.. i just don't see it happening.. 

 

Today we were driving home and they were remaking a road.. gf said the road was only 3 years old and commented on how nothing ever changes here and those in power (no matter what political color) want to keep it that way. 

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LOL> 3 years is a long time for it to last - they made it well. I've seen newly made roads in Pattaya full of potholes within a year.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

No need to apologize, i want him and every other corrupt official gone.. i just don't see it happening.. 

 

Today we were driving home and they were remaking a road.. gf said the road was only 3 years old and commented on how nothing ever changes here and those in power (no matter what political color) want to keep it that way. 

That's a cynical opinio, the 50mm that should have been 150 mm of tarmac on the road will no doubt play on their conscience and they will come clean on their deception and rectify the situation out of their own pocket 

2 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

That's a cynical opinio, the 50mm that should have been 150 mm of tarmac on the road will no doubt play on their conscience and they will come clean on their deception and rectify the situation out of their own pocket 

Ha ha ha! Just how long have you been writing comedy scripts?

2 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Ha ha ha! Just how long have you been writing comedy scripts?

 

2 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Ha ha ha! Just how long have you been writing comedy scripts?

Quiet a while, when i first said i wanted to be a comedian people laughed

Now stands at 80,001 after I read this taxi for the General meter running.

5 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

 

Quiet a while, when i first said i wanted to be a comedian people laughed

Well they're not laughing now!

(That line is attributed to the late Bob Monkhouse)

 

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

I remember about the sandwich saga, but seeing it written as "Eating a sandwich with political intent", makes you realise how pathetic the situation has been made by our very own Kim Jong- Prayuth.

And let's not forget that infamous video of the woman bundled into a taxi not long after the coup...

5 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Well they're not laughing now!

(That line is attributed to the late Bob Monkhouse)

 

Actually, that line about 'they are no longer laughing' was spoken by Hitler in WWII about the Jews!

2 minutes ago, baboon said:

And let's not forget that infamous video of the woman bundled into a taxi not long after the coup...

Yeees, only a faint recollection on that one...

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

Yeees, only a faint recollection on that one...

PM me for a link if you are interested.

15 minutes ago, baboon said:

And let's not forget that infamous video of the woman bundled into a taxi not long after the coup...

Yes, absolutely right. That poor woman had the temerity to hold up three fingers at the roadside (a symbol of defiance to  the junta) - and she was manhandled and shoved and violently forced into a taxi by the Thought Police. It was amazing - and appalling.

While 80,000 signatures may not seem much for some, did the PM's "questions to the public" thing garner a wider response?

10 hours ago, Morch said:

While 80,000 signatures may not seem much for some, did the PM's "questions to the public" thing garner a wider response?

No it did not get much response either, sounds a lot like people don't care either way. 

 

Its just strange I had expected at least a couple of million people signing to have him leave. To me it is almost as if Thai people only do something when told by their leaders (like PTP or Suthep) but not if it comes from an not well known source.  I just really can't explain it. 

 

Things I think are in play here are

- Not a wel publicized campaign

- Maybe fear

- Maybe total apathy as even if he goes an other fat cat takes his place so what is the point.

 

IMHO it really does not matter anymore who is in power they all turn into arrogant stealing power hungry fools. Maybe the Thai public is finally seeing that too and lost all interest in politics. 

 

When was the last time politicians or the junta did something useful like revising old laws and changing things really for the better. Besides some popular policies that failed like the rice scam and the tablets what has really been done. It took Toon to get extra funding for hospitals. Why did the junta or previous governments not adres this problem... its not like its a new problem. 

 

Education has not been addressed properly... the only new laws that have been made were always in favor of politicians or junta. Always big news headers about for instance GPS in minivans... has this happened.. and if it has.. is it being monitored ?. They all want to start big projects and skim from the proceeds but after that those plans are never really evaluated.

 

Something simple as having a couple of 100 plain clothes police to check taxi's on a regular basis for using the meter and refusing rides would not be that hard to do.... why are such simple things never done. 

 

All they do is move people around consolidate power steal money and attack their political opponents instead of working for the country (goes for all parties and junta)

My lottery number .

19 hours ago, coulson said:

Most Thais don't know who Prawit is.

Of course they do, he's the widely known watch collector with numerous dead friends.

4 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Of course they do, he's the widely known watch collector with numerous dead friends.

Was he in that 1968 film Watchfinder General, along with Vincent Price?

Honestly, does anyone seriously believe, that 80'000 signatures create the slightest interest as far as the Prawits, the Premchais and other shining examples of honourable leaders are concerned ? 

31 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Was he in that 1968 film Watchfinder General, along with Vincent Price?

Unfortunately, he doesn't have the physical attributes to be an actor.  

Edited February 17, 20188 yr by PatOngo

Breaking news:

Ticha and her staff were ushered into the presence of Mr. Chan-Ocha's cardboard figure where they were allowed to present the signatures. The meeting was brief but Ticha was satisfied that the response from the doppleganger was as if the man himself were there.

As the meeting adjourned, Ticha noted that the PM's effigy had not become upset and indeed, a smile could still be seen adorning his face.

Amazing Thailand!

80,000 signatures, on a petition opposing a military coup government wielding total power, is actually quite impressive. Especially as many Thais' attitude towards corruption seems to be somewhere between resignation and indifference. In a country where political participation is not necessarily on the same level as in the West, all the more so.

21 hours ago, webfact said:

80,018 people had supported the petition calling for the scandal-plagued minister to resign from the Cabinet

TV readers who trivialize and/or ridicule the 80,018 people who signed the petition because of its relative insignificance to Thailand's 60 million + population need to put the petition in its proper perspective. Thailand's history since at least after 1932 places a great deal of attention on petitions of most any size (even to a single person) in the governance of Thailand:

 

• 2017 Constitution, Section 41 - petition a State agency for complaint and action; Section 49 - petition the Constitutional Court to appeal acts of the Attorney General
• Petition a Constitutional Organization (aka Independent Organization) for redress to government actions or lack thereof, ie., NACC, DSI, Office of Ombudsman
• Petition the PM for redress actions or lack thereof by State agencies, ie. petitions by rubber farm owners, shipping boat owners.

From the above perspective, a petition of eighty thousand plus people represents a massive number of "concerned citizens." This is especially significant where there is currently no representative, ie., by election, government.

 

 

 

 

 

20 hours ago, robblok said:

69 million

 

I was saying that 80.000 was not a lot... then Tilacme said for each signatory there are 1000 thinking the same.. that is 80.000 x 1000 = 80.000.000

 

That is 11 million more as the 69 million on record.

 

 

Dont matter if they got 8 million people to sign he still wont leave  Its a dictatorship and they take no notice of anyone except themselves. As for population its 69 million Thais less 26,000 who will die on the roads this year.