Visa Service

[DEEWAYNE]

Has anyone experience of Thai Visa Service https://thaivisacentre.com/  

I have been quoted 16K and a guarantee of a multiple entry 12 month Non Immigrant O- visa based on marriage, with free automatic 90 day reporting ongoing,  My wife and I are both rather old and this seems like an easy option for us.  We have recently relocated to BKK after having spent 45 years married and raising family in NZ.  My wife has Thai ID and freshly issued Thai passport.  I am here after a run to Vientiane in Dec last year where I was granted a single entry Non Immigrant-O visa which expires March 27th.  All advice welcomed as the thought of enduring a substantial queue process with my wife who is not well is unsettling. 

[Tanoshi]

14 minutes ago, DEEWAYNE said:

I am here after a run to Vientiane in Dec last year where I was granted a single entry Non Immigrant-O visa which expires March 27th. 

I'm a little puzzled as to why you didn't apply for a multi entry Non Imm O Visa from Vientiane last year based on marriage to a Thai.

 

Quite frankly, if your elderly and travelling is an issue, applying for a 1 year extension of stay based on marriage at your local Immigration office would be first option. You would need to show 400,000 baht deposited in a Thai bank, or a monthly income of 40,000 baht.

 

The problem with a multi entry Non Imm O Visa is that you would have to exit and re-enter the Country every 90 days.

[ubonjoe]

You could save a good deal  money if you did the extension of stay application (it is not a visa) yourself at a immigration office. The fee is only 1900 baht.

[Tanoshi]

17 minutes ago, DEEWAYNE said:

I have been quoted 16K and a guarantee of a multiple entry 12 month Non Immigrant O- visa based on marriage, with free automatic 90 day reporting ongoing, 

Your words or the agents?

 

I have a feeling your talking about an extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai, which facilitates making 90 day reports.

[yuiop]

2 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

 

 

The problem with a multi entry Non Imm O Visa is that you would have to exit and re-enter the Country every 90 days.

 

Aren't you allowed to the 90 day  Immigration report?

 

cheers

[lopburi3]

Something very strange with OP as a multi entry non immigrant O visa would not require any 90 day address reports.  So we need to know if you have to travel every 90 days or not.  If not it must be a one year extension of stay from immigration which requires financials of 400k for marriage and does not allow any entries, unless a re-entry permit also obtained.  Normal cost would be 1,900 baht for extension and 3,800 baht for multi re-entry permit.

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All advice welcomed as the thought of enduring a substantial queue process with my wife who is not well is unsettling. 

If you can afford 800k/65k per month retirement financials wife would not have to attend each time so that might be considered.

[ubonjoe]

2 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

The problem with a multi entry Non Imm O Visa is that you would have to exit and re-enter the Country every 90 days.

 

23 minutes ago, yuiop said:

Aren't you allowed to the 90 day  Immigration report?

A multiple entry non-o visa only allows a 90 day entry.

You seem to be confusing a one year extension of stay that allows you to stay longer that 90 days which requires a report of staying longer than 90 days with a multiple entry visa.

[DEEWAYNE]

Thanks to all.  Yes I was confusing an extension of stay with a visa.  I did apply for a multiple entry Non Imm O but it was only granted for 90 days and single entry, obviously the immigration people in Vientiane knew that my next action would be an extension. It would seem the use of an agent then is not the desired one and the risk outweighs the alternative.  Based on your comments we will visit immigration and request a one year extension of stay - based on marriage.  I think I have all documentation required.  based on what I've read on this site and Thai MFA website.   

[Tanoshi]

14 minutes ago, DEEWAYNE said:

  I think I have all documentation required.  based on what I've read on this site and Thai MFA website.   

Post a list and we'll advise.

Some offices for the first extension based on marriage request a witness or the Village head to attend.

Your wife will also probably be interviewed.

 

Congratulations on 45 years of marriage Sir!

[yuiop]

16 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

 

A multiple entry non-o visa only allows a 90 day entry.

You seem to be confusing a one year extension of stay that allows you to stay longer that 90 days which requires a report of staying longer than 90 days with a multiple entry visa.

Thanks UJ, yes I'm not sure how it works, sorry!

 

So if I understand correctly, if I've got a multiple entry NON O and a 12 month extension on it based on marriage, retirement etc, I can exit Thailand and back every 90 days OR report at Immigration every 90 days?

What if I want to leave Thailand and come back after 2 or 3 months? I don't need a re-entry permit, do I?

 

Cheers

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, yuiop said:

So if I understand correctly, if I've got a multiple entry NON O and a 12 month extension on it based on marriage, retirement etc, I can exit Thailand and back every 90 days OR report at Immigration every 90 days?

What if I want to leave Thailand and come back after 2 or 3 months? I don't need a re-entry permit, do I?

If your multiple entry visa was still valid and you used for entry that would invalidate your one year extension of stay since you would get a new 90 day permit to stay.

You have to have a re-entry permit to keep your extension valid.

[DEEWAYNE]

Hi all, Thanks again for your time.

My wife is still shown on her brothers Tabien Baan under her maiden name.  He refused to register us with Phayao Immigration when staying with him in October.  We had to move to a hotel in order to comply with immigration rules whilst we went about the tasks of getting my wife her Thai ID card, and Thai passport.

We have now registered our 45 year old marriage via NZ embassy certified marriage certificate, and translation, and registered her name change from her Thai maiden name, at the Amphur in Phayao, and with the help of some old friends of hers were able to get her Thai ID and passport.  Again her brother refused to help by confirming she is his sister - and no explanation given. 

We exited Thailand before expiry of our visas, and re-entered from Vientiane after I was granted a 90 day Non Immigrant O visa which expires about 20th March.  My wife used her Thai passport upon re-entry from Vientiane.

 

We have leased a condo in Bangkok for 12 months as of January - the lease is in English only.  Will I need to have this translated and certified.  I understand the juristic office notify immigration of our residency here as well, however I believe she is still on the family home Tabien Baan albeit in her maiden name.  Incidentally her address of record on her ID card and passport is also still the family home - now owned by her brother.

Bangkok bank opened an account for my wife and were not interested in a joint account.  So in the short term we use our NZ credit card for essentials and transfer funds from NZ to BKK bank for ATM and lease payment.

I can download statements for Bangkok bank and our NZ bank to verify our income source, and expenditure for purchases made in Thailand as well.

 

I have certified translated copies of a 12 month lease of our home in ChCh NZ, and confirmation from the NZ Social Welfare that we can continue to receive super whilst in Thailand.  At today's rate this equates to BHT 32864 per month.  My wife is paid a similar amount and we also receive rental income of BHT52500 per month - all paid to our joint NZ bank account. Our joint income is therefore about BHT110,000 per month.

 

I have copies of the certificate of title to our NZ property (Equivalent Tabien Baan?) plus rates and power bills in our name for that address.  

 

I have receipts for local purchases delivered to our condo plus copies of water, power and internet accounts for the condo.

 

I have copies of photographs of our marriage and life in NZ however no photographs of the house showing the street address as it's on the downhill side of a mountain road.

 

All comments appreciated as to what I still need and whether we go to the immigration headquarters or use an agency.  

 

 

[Phuket Man]

The bank account has to be in your name only.

They are not interested in your Wife's income/savings.

 

If you are using income from abroad it has to be your income and you will need a letter from your Embassy in Bangkok as proof.

[Phuket Man]

Marriage Extension Requirements

 

A Rough Guide.

(1) The alien has obtained a temporary visa (NON-IM)

 

(6) In case of marriage with a Thai lady, the husband who is an alien must have an average annual income of not less than 40,000 baht per month or a money deposit in a local Thai bank of not less than 400,000 baht for the past 2 months for expenses within a year.

 

Letter from your Thai Bank showing balance and up to date bank book.

OR.

If income from outside Thailand: Letter from your Embassy showing income. Now may also need proof of income as back up.

If Income from Thailand: Statements showing Income Tax receipts.

Marriage Certificate. (Kor Ror 3)

Marriage Registry entry. (Kor Ror 2)

Wife's Tabbien Baan and ID Card.

Your Passport.

Copies of everything.

Photos of you and your Wife in and around the house.

A map showing the way to your house.

Passport size photos and 1,900 Baht fee.

Take your Wife to be interviewed.

One or two witnesses may be required.

You will be given a 30 day under consideration stamp.

Go back in a month and get the remainder.

[Just Weird]

On ‎2‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 2:38 PM, Tanoshi said:

 

Quite frankly, if your elderly and travelling is an issue, applying for a 1 year extension of stay based on marriage at your local Immigration office would be first option. 

 

That's exactly what he plans to get as he said in the OP.

[Just Weird]

Go for it, I say, it's a good price for those who don't want the bother of going to Immigration themselves.  That's what agents are for!

[Just Weird]

On ‎2‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 2:47 PM, Tanoshi said:

Your words or the agents?

 

I have a feeling your talking about an extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai, which facilitates making 90 day reports.

The 'automatic 90-day reports' probably refers to the agent doing them for him.

[Phuket Man]

Agents are a rip off and mostly illegal.

[DEEWAYNE]

Thanks again, had anticipated most of that, however my wife does not have a tabien baan.  She is still listed on her brothers under her maiden name since he inherited it, but we don't own property here, merely leasing and so no tabien baan.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, DEEWAYNE said:

Thanks again, had anticipated most of that, however my wife does not have a tabien baan.  She is still listed on her brothers under her maiden name since he inherited it, but we don't own property here, merely leasing and so no tabien baan.

That is not a problem.

She only has to be registered at any address in a tambien ban. It does not have to be for where you are living.

Only copies of page one and the page she is registered on in the tambien ban are needed to apply for the extension.

[Phuket Man]

She is on a tabbien baan. You only need a copy.

[DEEWAYNE]

The problem is she is on her brothers tabien baan and he is hindering all our moves.  We don't know why but I suspect he inherited all their mothers possessions under customary chinese inheritance beliefs to the eldest son go all the spoils.  When my mother in law passed we never saw a will, so she may well have passed intestate and her brothers is shitting bricks we're coming at him to recover a fair share.  I do however have a TR 22 and a certificate from the Amhpur in Phayao that the marriage has been recorded there and her official name is now the same as mine, and not her maiden name.  This is reflected in the Thai ID and Thai passport we got for her.  How would we go about getting a tabien baan if we are only leasing a condo?

[DEEWAYNE]

Thanks again guys and gals.

I have a Tor Ror 5, and a Tor Ror 22.

I have certified translations for superannuation and a rental property in New Zealand.

I can download bank statements to show super payments in my name, as well as rental income,,,All to our joint account in New Zealand.  I can have these validated at the NZ embassy.  I already have translations to Thai of my letter of entitlement to super whilst resident out of New Zealand, and the lease agreement for our house in ChCh.

I have an email from Land Information NZ with an attachment of the certificate of title to our property there.  Our names are on it so this may be our only tabien baan - if the embassy can validate it and will also get translated.  It may work - It's worth a try I guess.  I will check with the juristic office here at the condo to see if they can provide us with some form of evidence that we are indeed living here.  Will also take some photos with us in them at condo title, plus a few shots within the development and our condo.

I will reconcile the bank statements to our fund transfers, online home delivery of grocery and hardware from Tesco Lotus, and Lazada here in Bangkok as well as our ongoing expenditures for rates, insurances 

The tabien ban is still gonna be an issue I cannot resolve I feel. 

 

[HampiK]

55 minutes ago, DEEWAYNE said:

How would we go about getting a tabien baan if we are only leasing a condo?

The tabien baan (yellow book or blue book) you not have to own the place. It's only show that you life there. But when you rent sometimes it's not easy.

It depends on your landlord if he allows you to do the yellow book for yourself. But the easiest is, if you ask the landlord. Then you both could register in your rented condo, which would then be much easier for both of you. 

As well when she need a 30 baht hospital, I think she is only allowed in the area of the registered tambien baan.. so when she is registered at your living place then this also an advantage for her.

[ubonjoe]

12 hours ago, DEEWAYNE said:

The problem is she is on her brothers tabien baan and he is hindering all our moves. 

As I wrote before all you need is copy of her tabien baan registry. If he will not give her a copy she can request a print out of if at an Amphoe.

[Tanoshi]

12 hours ago, DEEWAYNE said:

Thanks again, had anticipated most of that, however my wife does not have a tabien baan.  She is still listed on her brothers under her maiden name since he inherited it, but we don't own property here, merely leasing and so no tabien baan.

You should have a copy of your landlords Tabien Baan and ID card. (signed)

That is all Immigration will need as proof of your address.

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

You should have a copy of your landlords Tabien Baan and ID card. (signed)

That is all Immigration will need as proof of your address.

A copy of his wife's tambien ban is required to apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage.

[Tanoshi]

18 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A copy of his wife's tambien ban is required to apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage.

Never disputed that, but that won't prove his residential address he's registering with Immigration.

Lease agreement and Condo owners TB and ID card, or Passport copies if the Condo owner is a foreigner.

 

The OP's problem appears to be getting a copy of the TB his wife is registered in.

As you already suggested she could go to the issuing Amphoe and ask for copies of her registration.

Long term, because of her brothers stubbornness, she may want to consider re-registering on a friends TB.

[jackdd]

24 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A copy of his wife's tambien ban is required to apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage.

I think there is always a lot confusion about the Tabian Baan, also you are using the wrong wording.

There is no "his wife's Tabian Baan", because the Tabian Baan belongs to a house and not a person (of course the person who owns the house also owns the tabian baan, but just indirectly)

The concept of updating his address at the Amphone, which is something totally normally in for example Europe, is very uncommon here in Thailand. But i could imagine that even Thailand has laws that say people would have to do it, just nearly nobody does it.

 

So a Tabian Baan belongs to a house (condo). The people who are currently living at this place should be registered in it.

Your wife is not living at her old place anymore, so it would defacto be wrong to be registered in the Tabian Baan of the old house.

All you have to do is to ask the owner of the condo to give the Tabian Baan to your wife, then she goes to the Amphoe with the Tabian Baan and the rental contract and get's her name in the Tabian Baan. Then you can take the copies that you need for your Visa.

 

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, jackdd said:

I think there is always a lot confusion about the Tabian Baan, also you are using the wrong wording.

The spelling of it is not that important.

I normally write her registry in the Tabian Baan.

I fully aware that it is for a house not an individual.