jayniem Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just after some info please. Two years ago my son was arrested in Phuket, for carrying a small amount of cannabis that his friend had bought, but my son had in his pocket, they were drunk and made a stupid mistake buying it. He was taken to a police station where after many phone calls to ourselves in the UK, we sent by Western Union the equivalent of £4500 to the police officers own bank account, so he could get his passport back for his flight home the next day. He wasnt deported and left the police station of his own free will, the officer even said to come and see her next time he was in Thailand, no wonder ! He has nothing stamped in his passport other than the date of exit. My question is would he be ok to return to Thailand ? He really doesnt know where to start to look into if he is blacklisted or not. He is very successful in the martial art of Ju Jitsu and wants to return to train there. He obviously knows that his stupid error cost him dearly as him and his friend paid us the money back, and would never do that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 54 minutes ago, jayniem said: My question is would he be ok to return to Thailand ? Based on the info in your post, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted February 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2018 He should be fine returning to Thailand. However, I would strongly counsel against Phuket, and especially being seen by the same police who arrested him before. If they are short of cash, it could become an expensive trip. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Should not be any problem as he bribed him self out, no court, not deported, no record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayniem Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 thanks for all your replies x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasa123 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) Was it Karon Police Station ? Edited February 22, 2018 by nasa123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdrwdrwd Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'm hoping you meant to write 450.... even that would be a massive rip off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted February 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, rwdrwdrwd said: I'm hoping you meant to write 450.... even that would be a massive rip off. If you can negotiate at the time of the sting (one assumes this was a situation of the drug dealer and police working together) it should be possible to get away for about 20,000 baht, maybe less. (It tends to be a lot more expensive than it used to be.) If you fail to do this, and end up at the police station, it is typically very expensive to fix the problem. Unless you have someone with connections to help you negotiate, I can well imagine it costing several thousand pounds. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycallahan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 To police officer's own bank account. There's evidence linking them to bribe taking. I think they'll be happy to settle with £4500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardandtubs Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Why pay the £4500 if you don't mind me asking? Did they think they were going to get the death penalty or something? Normally you just have to wait around for a few weeks and then pay a small fine at the court if all it is is a bit of weed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazykopite Posted February 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2018 He paid a bribe to a police officer so it would never be recorded but I would tell him if he comes to keep a low profile after all that police officer could be anywhere in Thailand . If it had of been my son I had to pay that amount of money I would have reported the policeman and his bank details to the Thai authorities once my son was well out of the country. Really cannot understand why your son would want to come back to a country that had stitched him up in the 1st place ! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said: Why pay the £4500 if you don't mind me asking? Did they think they were going to get the death penalty or something? Normally you just have to wait around for a few weeks and then pay a small fine at the court if all it is is a bit of weed. A few weeks in a Thai prison would be hell I know of a farang locked up in the local prison who will be sentenced next week for a drug offence he is expecting 4 years and last week informed one of his lady friends that he will string himself up rather than suffer apparently he is paying someone a 1,000 baht per week to guarantee his safety from other inmates he claims that there are over 50 in the same cell they are shackled by there wrists and ankles and have to wear something like a surgical gown he has already spent 80 days in there waiting his court appearance but hey if you do the crime then do the time . 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1066 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, crazykopite said: He paid a bribe to a police officer so it would never be recorded but I would tell him if he comes to keep a low profile after all that police officer could be anywhere in Thailand . If it had of been my son I had to pay that amount of money I would have reported the policeman and his bank details to the Thai authorities once my son was well out of the country. Really cannot understand why your son would want to come back to a country that had stitched him up in the 1st place ! I can't understand why his father has to post questions on his behalf. Sounds like a very immature individual. Daddy has to bail him out when he gets in trouble and he's too feeble to post his own questions when he wants to come back. Not the sort of person who will thrive in a foreign country. And why encourage him to come back to the scene of the crime? Japan, Brazil and the USA all have better reputations for Ju Jitsu so what is it that makes him want to come to Thailand to train? (I didn't write the above purely to vent - I think the father should seriously ask himself what his son's real motivations for wanting to return may be) Edited February 22, 2018 by Mark1066 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwardandtubs Posted February 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, crazykopite said: A few weeks in a Thai prison would be hell I know of a farang locked up in the local prison who will be sentenced next week for a drug offence he is expecting 4 years and last week informed one of his lady friends that he will string himself up rather than suffer apparently he is paying someone a 1,000 baht per week to guarantee his safety from other inmates he claims that there are over 50 in the same cell they are shackled by there wrists and ankles and have to wear something like a surgical gown he has already spent 80 days in there waiting his court appearance but hey if you do the crime then do the time . You're not comparing like with like. Your friend has obviously committed a serious drug offence whereas this guy was just caught with a bit of weed. These people don't get put in prison. They spend a day in a police cell and then get released until their court case. The punishment is typically a fine of a few thousand baht. It happens very frequently and is not hell at all but it is a bit of an inconvenience. Certainly not worth £4500. I know people who have been caught with a bit of weed, paid the fine and had no problem coming back to Thailand. Edited February 22, 2018 by edwardandtubs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, edwardandtubs said: Why pay the £4500 if you don't mind me asking? Did they think they were going to get the death penalty or something? Normally you just have to wait around for a few weeks and then pay a small fine at the court if all it is is a bit of weed. Carefully reading the OP it appears the 4500 pounds was both his son and his friend. Also his son had a flight out the next day which missing it might of cost a good deal of money to change. Not defending bribery just stating the facts as they appear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted February 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 hours ago, harrycallahan said: To police officer's own bank account. There's evidence linking them to bribe taking. 3 hours ago, crazykopite said: If it had of been my son I had to pay that amount of money I would have reported the policeman and his bank details to the Thai authorities once my son was well out of the country. My observation of Thai society over the last 30 years or so convinces me that ideas like those expressed above are extremely naive. Those police officers almost certainly had to pay large sums of money to buy their positions. Whatever the law might say, it was clearly understood that they would be able to make much, much more money from their police positions than they could dream of on their police salaries. Go to almost any large town in Thailand and find out where the senior policemen live, what cars they own, and their general lifestyles. "Proof" that they accept bribes... Unless they involve themselves in activities that make an enemy of someone extremely influential, such "proof" is irrelevant. On the other hand, if you accuse someone in Thailand of corruption, even if what you say is demonstrably true, you run the severe risk of being prosecuted under Thailand's notorious defamation laws. I strongly advise you to understand them well before embarking on such a foolhardy endeavor (as a starting point, you could read https://www.thailandlaw.org/defamation-in-thailand.html). Why pay such bribes when faced with a minor drugs charge in Thailand? It can be very reasonable for someone who is risk averse. The most likely outcome of just letting the case come to court is a small fine and deportation, cheaper than the bribe. However, that leaves a young person with a drugs record, and it is up to the arresting officers whether to press for blacklisting in addition to deportation. When you are the target of a sting, and refused to pay up, the arresting officers may well decide to be vindictive. Whatever the details, the very fact that you had a drugs record from somewhere else can be damaging years later in another country. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 hours ago, crazykopite said: He paid a bribe to a police officer so it would never be recorded but I would tell him if he comes to keep a low profile after all that police officer could be anywhere in Thailand . If it had of been my son I had to pay that amount of money I would have reported the policeman and his bank details to the Thai authorities once my son was well out of the country. Really cannot understand why your son would want to come back to a country that had stitched him up in the 1st place ! He would still be better off over here if the UK is his country. They have as much corruption in their government as Thailand, but they also have the brains to cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) Phuket is acquiring quite a reputation. Ju Jutsu is a Japanese martial art, not Thai. There are training facilities for it in most countries. Like another poster, I suspect the son's motivation in returning to Thailand is other than just training. Perhaps he has found horizontal wrestling as well. Edited February 22, 2018 by Lacessit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoken Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 If you payed that kind of money, which by the way was much too much, he should get a standing ovation upon arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 A off topic inflammatory post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 hours ago, BritTim said: (one assumes this was a situation of the drug dealer and police working together) Bingo. I had a guy slide free bag across the table to me once. I passed and walked away. A. I don't smoke. B. I smelled that shit a mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, bangkoken said: If you payed that kind of money, which by the way was much too much, he should get a standing ovation upon arrival. If not a few begging bowls thrust under his nose. I'd advise he carry plenty of 1k notes to distribute liberally at immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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