Dramatic video shows Pattaya tour bus write off 18 motorcycles

[keithpa]

12 minutes ago, Orac said:

 

 

Below is a on a Facebook group posted by the Cafe the video is taken from.

“Until now there is no "official" version...driver said he used a wood to prevent this...but bus passed over...so far...no one have seen any piece of wood that could be considerable big enough to stop a bus plus...what does he mean he used a piece of wood? What about breake or N gear...there is no brain here...”




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Yep, that satisfies my request.

[Miss Pickle]

These buses are a nightmare trying to get up a tiny Soi.I was on a baht bus today on Beach Road a Huge bus  pulled right up beside the baht bus I was on so close the Mirror rattled along it. They need to find a huge car park on the outside of Pattaya and use baht buses to bring the tourists in it is getting absolutely crazy and very Dangerous. Come on Town Hall get it sorted . It would stop your roads getting wrecked and some of the pollution reduced.Its spoiling this City big Time.

[wavemanwww]

57 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Just out of curiosity, does this bus driver have a driving licence in the first place ?  

Yes got it from a Falang cereal pack

[Lupatria]

You got no job? You lack basic common sense, and are a tried and true 'break failure enthusiast'?

                            Congrats Somchai you are hired !

Edited February 23, 2018 by Lupatria

[Zack61]

Another day at the office. If he was playing golf would be considered a par round after a double bogey on the last. 

[Humpy]

Perhaps the bus driver had a curtain across the lower half of his screen. That , together with perhaps a massive bunch of ecclesiastical nick knacks hanging from the windscreen frame and three  years of expired road tax stickers could have blocked out part of his field of view........ but then of course his brakes could have failed. 

[Bob1million]

Wow! He did a good job of collecting everything, all while being on completely the wrong side of the road. Cant wait to hear the excuse.

His foot got stuck on the accelerator

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[Russell17au]

All these trucks and buses are built with a maxi brake system which is air operated. If you apply the parking brake then the vehicle will not move, if you lose the air in the system the vehicle will not move because the brakes automatically come on.

The only way for these vehicles to move is if the brakes are not adjusted properly or if the brakes are not applied.

Many people say to leave the bus or truck in gear. That is a big no, no because a diesel motor can and will run without any electrics.

So there is no such thing as brake failure with any of these trucks and buses

[Media1]

it's hell for sure and a disposable government to boot. Boot being a choice phrase 

[smedly]

4 hours ago, JSixpack said:

 

Which is only typical in Asia. You ever traveled around? Bangkok itself doesn't make the top 10. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/lists/most-overcrowded-cities-in-the-world/

 

 

It's shocking that India is so horrible, then, given the Brits. And Hong Kong! Huh?

 

Short memory. Seen away from the barstool, the histories and situations of the two regions of the world have been quite different; ignorantly attempting to apply the UK standard reflects the usual provincialism.

 

For older cities in developed countries – London, Paris or New York – urbanization took place gradually over a century. They had time to adjust. In contrast, in developing Asian, intense urbanization is taking place within a few short decades. Unlike the Western cities that urbanized earlier, developing Asian cities simply do not have the administrative, management, institutional and financial capacities to manage urbanization and resulting socio-economic upheaval within such short periods.

     --https://thediplomat.com/2015/09/urbanization-and-migration-in-developing-asia/

 

WinnieTheKhwai, who has more sense than most here, is one of the few who by time of the Promenade had it right and even half-predicted The Tunnel, such a rich source of sneers & doomsayin':

 

I think it dawned on them [City Hall] pretty late that Pattaya was going to be a BIG city. One of the biggest in the country, after Bangkok. . . . Currently Pattaya is probably up there in the top 3 of biggest cities outside of Bangkok. (Subject to what anyone would want to define as being 'Pattaya' . . .) [speaking of the successful tunnels in Chiang Mai] That needs to happen in Pattaya too; all major intersections on Sukhumvit need tunnels and/or flyovers.

WinnieTheKhwai, on 19 Apr 2013 - 06:21

 

 

so you don't agree then lol

[PEE TEE]

Reg Vardy 

[JSixpack]

18 minutes ago, smedly said:

so you don't agree then lol

 

With reason, so I added rational perspective based on facts and corrected nonsense.

[Bastos60]

-- "They said, park in front of the lobby. So I did"

[Russell17au]

15 minutes ago, Bastos60 said:

-- "They said, park in front of the lobby. So I did"

You moron, you parked in front of the wrong lobby, now go and catch your bus, it has gone to the right lobby

[smedly]

28 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

With reason, so I added rational perspective based on facts and corrected nonsense.

yes you did in fact post a pile of nonsense, at least you have the ball s to admit it lol

 

I have visited many cities in the world and grew up in one and they have all conformed to proper city planning with wide city streets and footpaths .... go figure 

[Rimmer]

Some troll posts have been removed

[Tchooptip]

It’s not clear why the accident occurred, if the bus lost control, the brain failed or for some other reason.

 

[bust]

You can all carry on about the buses in Thailand but until you have seen how the PMV drivers operate their vehicles in PNG you ain't  seen nothing ?

[whaleboneman]

11 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Wow! He did a good job of collecting everything, all while being on completely the wrong side of the road. Cant wait to hear the excuse.

Brake and steering failure.

[whaleboneman]

10 hours ago, Orac said:

Heard from someone there that it is the driver you see running after it - dropping at hotel up the road and claims he had chocked wheels.

If that's the driver, he's running the wrong way.

[Nuddy]

It looks to me like he parked it nicely parallel to the kerb at least!

[Daveyh]

The number of buses has dramatically increased year upon year & has been a disaster from day one. How many buses operate in the town & surrounding tourist spots? It must run into the hundreds (100's), because I've personally seen at peak times as many as thirty plus coaches waiting at traffic lights in both directions at major crossroads. The damage that is being caused by them to evironment is obvious to anyone with half a brain. The trees branches have been broken in nearly every area where these big buses park. The roads are taking a heavy toll as they are too narrow, hence clipping curbs & damage to road signs occur every day. The buses use all the roads in Pattaya & even the small soi's do not escape the onslaught of these heavy vehicles. The overhead cables in town are constantly being snagged & cut, causing real problems to communication services.  The pollution from these buses is so bad that at peak times motorcyclists can hardly breath ...... hence, the majority of people in Pattaya commuting to work are getting poisoned on a daily basis, but no one cares! This is certainly going to create more health issues in the near future. More people will be off sick from work & their health service is already under great pressure with environmental health issues as it is! These buses are parked overnight all over town too, some even in housing areas if they can find enough space! The whole issue relating to the control of these buses relating to pollution, parking, speed limits, restricted areas for buses etc etc needs urgent attention. It is only going to get worse & city hall needs to resolve this problem asap ......... or the city will become a travelers nightmare. Pattaya's second road from Pattaya Tai junction to the Dolphin Roundabout is jammed with these buses at night & it's really a disaster waiting to happen for pedestrians  ................ so dangerous, especially around the central malls & shopping areas.   

Edited February 23, 2018 by Daveyh

[samsensam]

 

that'll teach them to park in his parking place.

[Nuddy]

4 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

that'll teach them to park in his parking place.

I think you were using humour there but I wonder really if that was it.

It was suggested the driver was running beside the travelling bus!

I favour your suggestion samsensam!

[Justgrazing]

3 hours ago, Russell17au said:

All these trucks and buses are built with a maxi brake system which is air operated. If you apply the parking brake then the vehicle will not move, if you lose the air in the system the vehicle will not move because the brakes automatically come on.

The only way for these vehicles to move is if the brakes are not adjusted properly or if the brakes are not applied.

Many people say to leave the bus or truck in gear. That is a big no, no because a diesel motor can and will run without any electrics.

So there is no such thing as brake failure with any of these trucks and buses

Some good points there Sir .. Indeed the air brake systems fitted to big truck and buses apply the brakes " automatically " if there is insufficient air pressure within the system to " hold '' them off .. The same applies to the parking brake until sufficient pressure is available the parking brake won't release .. But these systems are only efficient when correctly maintained as in wear of front line components such as shoes and pads along with associated discs and drums is monitored and remedied .. condition , security , operation and adjustment of the operating components ( brake actuators , hoses , load sensors , transfer shafts etc ) is regularly inspected and remedied where req'.. The air system itself must be checked for leaks , correct operation of all valves within the system , the air tanks should be drained regularly to prevent water build up which can corrode some of the valves from  within and air build up is within time ( slow build up usually indicates a fault somewhere ) .. And now on newer vehicles there are electronic systems such as ABS , ABD and the like that have to serviced and acted upon if indicating a fault .. For a vehicle fitted with such a system to suffer brake failure would have to amount to serious criminal neglect of the vehicle such as allowing brake linings to wear to metal , allowing discs and drums to excessively wear .. Incorrect or non adjustment or inspection of components requiring it .. Wilful subverting or bypassing of safety systems ( air valves , ABS etc ) .. The last incident in Blighty that I'm aware of that involved " brake failure " of a heavy tipper that had deadly consequences for the people it hit was the Bath Tipper truck accident 2015 ( below ) .. At the trial for manslaughter of 4 people it hit , it was proven the truck's braking system had numerous faults .. some components were incorrectly adjusted , the ABS light was illuminated , the exhaust brake ( used for assisting a heavy vehicle's braking system particularly down hill in " holding back " the engine by restricting exhaust gas escape ) wasn't working , the maintenance records for the truck were woefully not upto standard ( mandatory requirement in UK ) the list went on .. The guilty verdict on both Operator of the truck and mechanic responsible for it's maintenance was a just one .. The Operator got seven years inside the mechanic five ..

 

Some older diesels with mechanical engine stops could be started with no key in the ignition if you bump started them but now most new diesels turn off with the key and won't restart without it and like most modern vehicles a lot of new truck and bus ignition keys are also part of the immobiliser system so if the key is not in the ign and in the run position then no way will it run .. It is never wise leaving a heavy vehicle in gear to compensate for uncertainty in the braking system as that can seriously stress some of the transmission components such as prop' UJ's , clutch plate centre's , half shaft splines etc as they are the components holding the vehicles weight .. 

 

Edited February 23, 2018 by Justgrazing
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[ttrd]

12 hours ago, Darcula said:

Maybe, with some more practice, this guy could take out some jetskis and make himself useful to society.

Maybe the busdriver now finally understand after making waves on the street that he should have kept his old job as a speedboat captain....

Edited February 23, 2018 by ttrd

[tifino]

 

 ...to use the words 'write off' indicates the presence of Insurance!

 

 

yeah... right 

 

 

Maybe he had better keep on runnin'

[Antonymous]

10 hours ago, Rimmer said:

Use a different browser if you are not seeing the video link sometime Fire Fox Quantum does not pick up or decode videos that are posted on here

Would it not be possible for ThaiVisa to post embedded videos instead of Facebook references?

 

I too can never open the Facebook videos, but have no problem with videos posted directly to TV.

[Russell17au]

1 hour ago, Justgrazing said:

Some good points there Sir .. Indeed the air brake systems fitted to big truck and buses apply the brakes " automatically " if there is insufficient air pressure within the system to " hold '' them off .. The same applies to the parking brake until sufficient pressure is available the parking brake won't release .. But these systems are only efficient when correctly maintained as in wear of front line components such as shoes and pads along with associated discs and drums is monitored and remedied .. condition , security , operation and adjustment of the operating components ( brake actuators , hoses , load sensors , transfer shafts etc ) is regularly inspected and remedied where req'.. The air system itself must be checked for leaks , correct operation of all valves within the system , the air tanks should be drained regularly to prevent water build up which can corrode some of the valves from  within and air build up is within time ( slow build up usually indicates a fault somewhere ) .. And now on newer vehicles there are electronic systems such as ABS , ABD and the like that have to serviced and acted upon if indicating a fault .. For a vehicle fitted with such a system to suffer brake failure would have to amount to serious criminal neglect of the vehicle such as allowing brake linings to wear to metal , allowing discs and drums to excessively wear .. Incorrect or non adjustment or inspection of components requiring it .. Wilful subverting or bypassing of safety systems ( air valves , ABS etc ) .. The last incident in Blighty that I'm aware of that involved " brake failure " of a heavy tipper that had deadly consequences for the people it hit was the Bath Tipper truck accident 2015 ( below ) .. At the trial for manslaughter of 4 people it hit , it was proven the truck's braking system had numerous faults .. some components were incorrectly adjusted , the ABS light was illuminated , the exhaust brake ( used for assisting a heavy vehicle's braking system particularly down hill in " holding back " the engine by restricting exhaust gas escape ) wasn't working , the maintenance records for the truck were woefully not upto standard ( mandatory requirement in UK ) the list went on .. The guilty verdict on both Operator of the truck and mechanic responsible for it's maintenance was a just one .. The Operator got seven years inside the mechanic five ..

 

Some older diesels with mechanical engine stops could be started with no key in the ignition if you bump started them but now most new diesels turn off with the key and won't restart without it and like most modern vehicles a lot of new truck and bus ignition keys are also part of the immobiliser system so if the key is not in the ign and in the run position then no way will it run .. It is never wise leaving a heavy vehicle in gear to compensate for uncertainty in the braking system as that can seriously stress some of the transmission components such as prop' UJ's , clutch plate centre's , half shaft splines etc as they are the components holding the vehicles weight .. 

 

Thank you very much for how a large truck and bus operate, there appears to be a lot of things that I did wrong over my 50 years of operating large trucks around Australia, like changing batteries with the motor running and I am talking about modern trucks

[Justgrazing]

14 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Thank you very much for how a large truck and bus operate, there appears to be a lot of things that I did wrong over my 50 years of operating large trucks around Australia, like changing batteries with the motor running and I am talking about modern trucks

Yea sure you can disconnect batt's with the engine running though not advisable but I'm sure you've seen modern trucks now won't start or stop without a key in the ignition .. But sure older 70/80's trucks & buses with a msnual lever or cable engine stop could bumpstart without a key ( no steering locks in those days ) providing it has enough air in the tanks to release the parking brake .. 

 

Proper roadtrains those Russell es'pesh that lower monster .. And man I'll bet you need a tiptop braking system to hold one of those in check .. 

Edited February 23, 2018 by Justgrazing
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