Ex-Trump top aide Manafort pleads not guilty, faces September trial

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Ex-Trump top aide Manafort pleads not guilty, faces September trial

By Sarah N. Lynch

 

Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort departs from U.S. District Court in Washington, U.S., February 28, 2018. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort pleaded not guilty on Wednesday to a new indictment brought against him in the investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election and will face trial in September.

 

Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is running the Russia probe, is dialing up the legal pressure on Manafort, who has opted not to cooperate with investigators.

 

Manafort's former business partner Rick Gates, another Trump ex-campaign official, decided last week to cooperate with the investigation.

Manafort is facing two separate indictments on an array of charges, including conspiracy to launder money, filing false tax returns, bank fraud, and failing to register as a foreign agent despite lobbying in the United States for the pro-Kremlin Ukrainian government of former President Viktor Yanukovych.

 

Manafort's trial is expected to last for several weeks, and could stretch on through November's midterm elections - making headlines at a time when Republicans are fighting to maintain their majority in the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate.

 

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson set the trial to start Sept. 17 in Washington, D.C.

 

MONEY LAUNDERING

 

Prosecutors allege that Manafort, with Gates' assistance, laundered more than $30 million and duped banks into lending money. They say the pair used funds from secret offshore accounts to enjoy a life of luxury.

 

None of the charges against the pair make reference to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election nor accusations of collusion between Moscow and Trump’s campaign.

 

Mueller, appointed by the Department of Justice last year to investigate Russia's role in the election and possible collusion by the Trump campaign, has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe.

 

U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Moscow sought to meddle in the campaign to tilt the vote in favor of Trump, the Republican candidate, including by hacking the emails of leading Democrats and distributing disinformation and propaganda online.

 

Russia has denied the accusations of interference. Trump has said there was no collusion and denied any attempt to obstruct Mueller's probe.

 

Manafort was Trump's campaign manager for five months in 2016. He was originally indicted last year with Gates, Trump's former deputy campaign manager.

 

A court filing on Friday charged that between 2008 and 2017, Gates and Manafort devised a scheme to obtain money and property by making false representations to banks and other financial institutions. Toward the end of that period they worked for Trump's campaign.

 

Manafort is facing two separate indictments - one filed in the federal court in Washington, D.C., and a second in a federal court in Alexandria, Virginia.

 

The Washington one charges him with conspiracy to launder money, conspiracy against the United States, making false statements, and charges in connection with failing to register as a foreign agent for Ukraine.

 

The Virginia indictment charges him with bank fraud, filing false tax returns and failing to report foreign bank accounts to the U.S. government.

 

Manafort is expected to appear for a second hearing in the Alexandria court on Friday, where he will also plead not guilty to the charges.

 

Both cases carry possible prison terms of more than a decade each if Manafort, 68, is convicted, according to a court filing by the government on Wednesday.

 

The two separate indictments against him in the District of Columbia and Virginia are seen as unusual.

 

Normally such charges would be consolidated in one court, but Manafort has refused to allow this, which might be a legal tactic meant to make Mueller's case more difficult.

 

The two parallel cases could complicate matters for both sides, since each indictment to a large extent relies on the same underlying evidence.

 

Judge Jackson on Wednesday fretted about this, saying dueling cases could lead to a "duplicative" amount of work, particularly for the defense, and potentially "inconsistent rulings" by the two judges.

 

Gates made a plea deal last week to charges that he lied to investigators and conspired against the United States. The move added to pressure on Manafort to cut a deal himself but he has maintained his innocence.

 

(Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Susan Heavey and Alistair Bell)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-03-01

[soalbundy]

It's all fake news, I was framed.

[mtls2005]

He's got another arraignment tomorrow, in Alexandria, Virginia, on a separate indictment Mueller's team obtained earlier this month accusing the veteran lobbyist and political consultant of 18 counts of tax and bank fraud. 

 

Good luck with the scheduling of your trials, sir.

 

Not sure what his strategy is exactly? Maybe a full-on extension of the "WITCH HUNT!" defense (over-reaching Government conspiracy), but finding a sympathetic jury in DC or Virginia seems unlikely.

[Khun Han]

"None of the charges against the pair make reference to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election nor accusations of collusion between Moscow and Trump’s campaign.

 

Mueller, appointed by the Department of Justice last year to investigate Russia's role in the election and possible collusion by the Trump campaign, has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

 

The above sums up the completely political nature of Mueller's investigation.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Khun Han said:

"None of the charges against the pair make reference to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election nor accusations of collusion between Moscow and Trump’s campaign.

 

Mueller, appointed by the Department of Justice last year to investigate Russia's role in the election and possible collusion by the Trump campaign, has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

 

The above sums up the completely political nature of Mueller's investigation.

Seems you have difficulty reading. It sums up the criminal nature of the investigation: go after everything illegal you find.

[Khun Han]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Seems you have difficulty reading. It sums up the criminal nature of the investigation: go after everything illegal you find.

 

No, I don't have any difficulty reading. One of the central players in this drama, Christopher Steele, has been identified as having lied to the FBI (a criminal offence). Could you point me to where Mueller's investigation is dealing with this? After all, Mueller's investigation "has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

No, I don't have any difficulty reading. One of the central players in this drama, Christopher Steele, has been identified as having lied to the FBI (a criminal offence). Could you point me to where Mueller's investigation is dealing with this? After all, Mueller's investigation "has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

Since the investigation is under way and the investigators are tight lipped nobody knows.

 

But that has nothing to do with your post, just your usual deflection, in claiming it is political, when the mandate is very clearly criminal.

[ilostmypassword]

6 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

No, I don't have any difficulty reading. One of the central players in this drama, Christopher Steele, has been identified as having lied to the FBI (a criminal offence). Could you point me to where Mueller's investigation is dealing with this? After all, Mueller's investigation "has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

Nonsense about the Christopher Steele lie. What the liars who accuse Christopher Steele of lying about is that he denied to the FBI that he had spoken to journalists. Which was the truth. He only spoke to journalists months after he was interviewed by the FBI. And so far, the FBI has not even claimed that it asked Steele about any contacts with journalists.

"But Steele’s meeting with the FBI in July took place before he had briefed the US journalists, which was in September. Neither he nor his associates have any recollection of the Bureau raising the issue at either meeting, including the one in October. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/in-defence-of-christopher-steele/

[mtls2005]

25 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

"None of the charges against the pair make reference to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election nor accusations of collusion between Moscow and Trump’s campaign.

 

Mueller, appointed by the Department of Justice last year to investigate Russia's role in the election and possible collusion by the Trump campaign, has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

 

The above sums up the completely political nature of Mueller's investigation.

 

I think Mueller is conducting a typical organized crime investigation as he did say with the Gambino family. Start at the bottom, work your way up. So far, the people who've pleaded guilty have admitted to lying about their contacts with Russians.

 

I understand your need to defend the President, not wanting to admit that you may voted for an incompetent, senile, racist, traitor. The "Silent Majority" defended Nixon right up until ~ 2 weeks before he resigned.

 

Ken Starr's investigation into Bill Clinton lasted quite a few years, and took many strange twists and turns. Mueller is a bit more professional, so give it a bit more time.

 

 

[Khun Han]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Since the investigation is under way and the investigators are tight lipped nobody knows.

 

But that has nothing to do with your post, just your usual deflection, in claiming it is political, when the mandate is very clearly criminal.

 

The investigation always announces advances immediately. Steele has been identified as having lied to the FBI, which is patently a criminal offence. And his criminal offence (unlike those of the people charged so far through the Mueller investigation) is directly related to Mueller's investigation. Mueller's not investigating this. That's because Mueller's investigation is entirely political. A blind bat could see this. Trump-haters can't.

[Khun Han]

9 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Nonsense about the Christopher Steele lie. What the liars who accuse Christopher Steele of lying about is that he denied to the FBI that he had spoken to journalists. Which was the truth. He only spoke to journalists months after he was interviewed by the FBI. And so far, the FBI has not even claimed that it asked Steele about any contacts with journalists.

"But Steele’s meeting with the FBI in July took place before he had briefed the US journalists, which was in September. Neither he nor his associates have any recollection of the Bureau raising the issue at either meeting, including the one in October. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/in-defence-of-christopher-steele/

 

Steele was engaged by the FBI as a source. His dossier was presented to FISC as 'evidence' later the same year of Carter Page's collusion with Russian spies. Steele released 'information' from his dossier to the world's media in breach of his agreement with the FBI, and lied about it (including in his submissions to a UK libel court), so the FBI terminated him as a source, as per their submission to FISC (confirmed by the highly propagandised Democrat memo).

[Khun Han]

11 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

I think Mueller is conducting a typical organized crime investigation as he did say with the Gambino family. Start at the bottom, work your way up. So far, the people who've pleaded guilty have admitted to lying about their contacts with Russians.

 

I understand your need to defend the President, not wanting to admit that you may voted for an incompetent, senile, racist, traitor. The "Silent Majority" defended Nixon right up until ~ 2 weeks before he resigned.

 

Ken Starr's investigation into Bill Clinton lasted quite a few years, and took many strange twists and turns. Mueller is a bit more professional, so give it a bit more time.

 

 

 

I'm British. I see a concerted effort to get rid of a democratically elected US President, using a lot of the same tactics that are being used to get rid of the decision by my country to escape manipulation by a particular faction. The US and the UK are under the same threat, from the same faction.

[Khun Han]

26 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

I think Mueller is conducting a typical organized crime investigation as he did say with the Gambino family. Start at the bottom, work your way up. So far, the people who've pleaded guilty have admitted to lying about their contacts with Russians.

 

I understand your need to defend the President, not wanting to admit that you may voted for an incompetent, senile, racist, traitor. The "Silent Majority" defended Nixon right up until ~ 2 weeks before he resigned.

 

Ken Starr's investigation into Bill Clinton lasted quite a few years, and took many strange twists and turns. Mueller is a bit more professional, so give it a bit more time.

 

 

 

"I think Mueller is conducting a typical organized crime investigation as he did say with the Gambino family. Start at the bottom, work your way up."

 

I'm sure he is. But, in this instance, it's an entirely politically motivated one.

[ilostmypassword]

6 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

Steele was engaged by the FBI as a source. His dossier was presented to FISC as 'evidence' later the same year of Carter Page's collusion with Russian spies. Steele released 'information' from his dossier to the world's media in breach of his agreement with the FBI, and lied about it (including in his submissions to a UK libel court), so the FBI terminated him as a source, as per their submission to FISC (confirmed by the highly propagandised Democrat memo).

No, Steele was not engaged by the FBI as a source. Steele gave the FBI info but there was cash exchanged and no contracts. Where is the evidence that Steele breached his agreement with the FBI and lied about it? You seem oddly reluctant to provide links.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, Khun Han said:

"None of the charges against the pair make reference to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election nor accusations of collusion between Moscow and Trump’s campaign.

 

Mueller, appointed by the Department of Justice last year to investigate Russia's role in the election and possible collusion by the Trump campaign, has a broad mandate that allows him to look into any wrongdoing he uncovers in the probe."

 

The above sums up the completely political nature of Mueller's investigation.

Because turning a blind eye to criminality wouldn't be political would it?!

 

Here's something for Illiberals to chew on, crimes hiding in plain sight:

 

5 U.S. Code § 3110.

[Khun Han]

1 hour ago, ilostmypassword said:

No, Steele was not engaged by the FBI as a source. Steele gave the FBI info but there was cash exchanged and no contracts. Where is the evidence that Steele breached his agreement with the FBI and lied about it? You seem oddly reluctant to provide links.

 

Steele had been engaged and paid by the FBI for quite some time before the notorious dossier. He didn't get paid for his info in relation to the dossier because the FBI got rid of him due to his duplicity on the matter. All this is in the Dem memo. Or are the Dems making all this up as well? Quite a conspiracy that would be!

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

I'm British. I see a concerted effort to get rid of a democratically elected US President, using a lot of the same tactics that are being used to get rid of the decision by my country to escape manipulation by a particular faction. The US and the UK are under the same threat, from the same faction.

1. The FBI, the CIA and the NSA have all concluding and reported that the Russian's meddled in the 2016 presidential election in favour of Trump. These organisations have also concluded and reported that Russia is continuing there efforts and they (the US security services) fully expect the Russians to repeat their attacks in the November mid-terms.

 

2. In response to that attack Congress has passed a bill of sanctions against Russia.

 

3. Trump has refused to sign that bill into law.

 

4. Trump has refused to authorise US national security services to take any action to prevent further Russian meddling in the November mid-terms.

 

The US is certainly under threat of manipulation and the President is refusing to act to protect the US.

 

Now ask yourself if it is in Russia's interests to manipulate British politics, elections and referenda?

 

PM May's only statement on the matter is 'Russia, we know what you are doing'.

 

Go ask Nigel Farage what messages he carried between the US and Assange? How many times he has met Assange? Why he is a 'person on interest' in Mueller's investigation? 

 

You'll not get any answers from Farage but do not be at all surprised if Mueller reveals some very unsavoury truths of Russian interference in British politics, elections and referenda. 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Steele had been engaged and paid by the FBI for quite some time before the notorious dossier. He didn't get paid for his info in relation to the dossier because the FBI got rid of him due to his duplicity on the matter. All this is in the Dem memo. Or are the Dems making all this up as well? Quite a conspiracy that would be!

 

Let's step back a bit.

 

Nunes released classified information in an attempt to undermine the Special Council's investigation by claiming the FISA warrants against Carter Page were based on the Steele Dossier and that this somehow invalidated the investigation. 

 

Illiberal Mistake 1. The Nunes memo itself revealed that the Carter Page investigation started way before Steele's report was handed to the FBI, having its roots in some drunk running his mouth off about Carter Page to an Australian diplomat AND Carter Page's own written statement to the press a couple of years earlier that he was acting for the Kremlin. oops!

 

Illiberal Mistake 2. The FISA warrant against Carter Page were renewed at least 3 times. The renewal process requires evidence of crimes having been revealed by the FISA surveillance. The fist FISA warrant and the first FISA renewal were issued before Steele's dossier came into the possession of the FBI. oops!

 

Advice to an Illiberal:

 

Ponder 19 indictments and 5 guilty please as evidence. Stop obsessing over Mueller keep your eyes on Eric Schneiderman, he's going to 'take down the whole three ringed circus' and he'll do in an open court of law, in New York and out of reach of presidential pardons. 

[Chomper Higgot]

What I find interesting is why, with mounting charges and the certainty of facing the rest of his life in Federal Prison, is Manifort refusing to se

ek a plea deal?

 

I can only imagine he has two reasons for holding out.

 

1. He believes Trump will pardon him (highly questionable that Trump would or even more questionable if a pardon from Tump would stand in the Supreme Court if Trump is names as a Co-Conspiritor). 

2. Somebody is making a mortal threat against him and his family. 

 

Manifort's free life of life of any kind are over.

 

[janclaes47]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What I find interesting is why, with mounting charges and the certainty of facing the rest of his life in Federal Prison, is Manifort refusing to se

ek a plea deal?

 

I can only imagine he has two reasons for holding out.

 

1. He believes Trump will pardon him (highly questionable that Trump would or even more questionable if a pardon from Tump would stand in the Supreme Court if Trump is names as a Co-Conspiritor). 

2. Somebody is making a mortal threat against him and his family. 

 

Manifort's free life of life of any kind are over.

 

How about this?

 

If anyone in the world knows if Manifort is guilty or not, it will be Manifort himself, and certainly not the Trump haters on this forum.

 

How is the impeachment going by the way?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, janclaes47 said:

How about this?

 

If anyone in the world knows if Manifort is guilty or not, it will be Manifort himself, and certainly not the Trump haters on this forum.

 

How is the impeachment going by the way?

Actually Gates knows too, and Gates has implicated Manifort in criminality which Manifort has now had added to the list of existing chafes against him. 

 

His trial will start in September and reach fever pitch just in time for the mid-terms. 

 

I must say, when Trump said he's set about draining the swamp, I had no idea he'd do so in such a cunning fashion.

 

Let's have the completed investigation before the impeachment - due process and all that. 

[Khun Han]

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Let's step back a bit.

 

Nunes released classified information in an attempt to undermine the Special Council's investigation by claiming the FISA warrants against Carter Page were based on the Steele Dossier and that this somehow invalidated the investigation. 

 

Illiberal Mistake 1. The Nunes memo itself revealed that the Carter Page investigation started way before Steele's report was handed to the FBI, having its roots in some drunk running his mouth off about Carter Page to an Australian diplomat AND Carter Page's own written statement to the press a couple of years earlier that he was acting for the Kremlin. oops!

 

Illiberal Mistake 2. The FISA warrant against Carter Page were renewed at least 3 times. The renewal process requires evidence of crimes having been revealed by the FISA surveillance. The fist FISA warrant and the first FISA renewal were issued before Steele's dossier came into the possession of the FBI. oops!

 

Advice to an Illiberal:

 

Ponder 19 indictments and 5 guilty please as evidence. Stop obsessing over Mueller keep your eyes on Eric Schneiderman, he's going to 'take down the whole three ringed circus' and he'll do in an open court of law, in New York and out of reach of presidential pardons. 

 

Sorry, but your claims about the FISC warrants and their timelines are woefully incorrect.

[Khun Han]

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. The FBI, the CIA and the NSA have all concluding and reported that the Russian's meddled in the 2016 presidential election in favour of Trump. These organisations have also concluded and reported that Russia is continuing there efforts and they (the US security services) fully expect the Russians to repeat their attacks in the November mid-terms.

 

2. In response to that attack Congress has passed a bill of sanctions against Russia.

 

3. Trump has refused to sign that bill into law.

 

4. Trump has refused to authorise US national security services to take any action to prevent further Russian meddling in the November mid-terms.

 

The US is certainly under threat of manipulation and the President is refusing to act to protect the US.

 

Now ask yourself if it is in Russia's interests to manipulate British politics, elections and referenda?

 

PM May's only statement on the matter is 'Russia, we know what you are doing'.

 

Go ask Nigel Farage what messages he carried between the US and Assange? How many times he has met Assange? Why he is a 'person on interest' in Mueller's investigation? 

 

You'll not get any answers from Farage but do not be at all surprised if Mueller reveals some very unsavoury truths of Russian interference in British politics, elections and referenda. 

 

 

Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Sorry, but your claims about the FISC warrants and their timelines are woefully incorrect.

Would the FBI put eyes on Americans working with the Kremlin? Well if so, Carter Page declared to the world that he was working with the Kremlin in 2013.

 

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

 

How the Russia Investigation began:

 

(Caution references to Drunk Trump aid running his mouth off to Australian Diplomat) 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

 

I realise you are in the UK and may not be fully informed on what the Trump Russia investigation is, how it came about or why the Republicans are truing to undermine the investigation, but you need to open your mind the the fact that crimes have been committed and are bing investigated. 

 

19 indictments, 5 guilty pleas... to date.

 

 

 

[Khun Han]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Would the FBI put eyes on Americans working with the Kremlin? Well if so, Carter Page declared to the world that he was working with the Kremlin in 2013.

 

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

 

How the Russia Investigation began:

 

(Caution references to Drunk Trump aid running his mouth off to Australian Diplomat) 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

 

I realise you are in the UK and may not be fully informed on what the Trump Russia investigation is, how it came about or why the Republicans are truing to undermine the investigation, but you need to open your mind the the fact that crimes have been committed and are bing investigated. 

 

19 indictments, 5 guilty pleas... to date.

 

 

 

 

You haven't addressed your errors regarding the FISC warrants.

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

1. The FBI, the CIA and the NSA have all concluding and reported that the Russian's meddled in the 2016 presidential election in favour of Trump. These organisations have also concluded and reported that Russia is continuing there efforts and they (the US security services) fully expect the Russians to repeat their attacks in the November mid-terms.

 

A matter of public record - Evidence giving before the House Intelligence Committee. Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

2. In response to that attack Congress has passed a bill of sanctions against Russia.

A matter of Public Record Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

3. Trump has refused to sign that bill into law.

A matter of Public Record Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

4. Trump has refused to authorise US national security services to take any action to prevent further Russian meddling in the November mid-terms.

A matter of Public Record, Evidence this week given before the House Intelligence Committee and televised - Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

The US is certainly under threat of manipulation and the President is refusing to act to protect the US.

A matter of Public Record, refer evidence to the House Intelligence Committee Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

Now ask yourself if it is in Russia's interests to manipulate British politics, elections and referenda?

Not unreasonable to ask this question. Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

PM May's only statement on the matter is 'Russia, we know what you are doing'.

A matter of Public Record https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/nov/14/we-know-what-youre-doing-theresa-may-tells-russia-video Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

Go ask Nigel Farage what messages he carried between the US and Assange? How many times he has met Assange? Why he is a 'person on interest' in Mueller's investigation? 

Farage meeting with Assange was reported in the press: Farage is a persona of interest in the Russia Inquiry https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia

Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

 

You'll not get any answers from Farage but do not be at all surprised if Mueller reveals some very unsavoury truths of Russian interference in British politics, elections and referenda. 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

You haven't addressed your errors regarding the FISC warrants.

You mean the 'error' that the 'Republican Polical Party' claim exist. 

 

In the spirit of not politicising this that you are keen to follow, let's leave the validity of warrants to the courts shall we.

 

19 Indictments and 5 Guilty pleas. 

 

(The indictments tested before Grand Juries for the very reason of the political nature of the alleged crimes and the political standing of the accused/confessed criminals)

 

[Khun Han]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. The FBI, the CIA and the NSA have all concluding and reported that the Russian's meddled in the 2016 presidential election in favour of Trump. These organisations have also concluded and reported that Russia is continuing there efforts and they (the US security services) fully expect the Russians to repeat their attacks in the November mid-terms.

 

A matter of public record - Evidence giving before the House Intelligence Committee. Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

2. In response to that attack Congress has passed a bill of sanctions against Russia.

A matter of Public Record Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

3. Trump has refused to sign that bill into law.

A matter of Public Record Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

4. Trump has refused to authorise US national security services to take any action to prevent further Russian meddling in the November mid-terms.

A matter of Public Record, Evidence this week given before the House Intelligence Committee and televised - Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

The US is certainly under threat of manipulation and the President is refusing to act to protect the US.

A matter of Public Record, refer evidence to the House Intelligence Committee Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

Now ask yourself if it is in Russia's interests to manipulate British politics, elections and referenda?

Not unreasonable to ask this question. Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

PM May's only statement on the matter is 'Russia, we know what you are doing'.

A matter of Public Record https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/nov/14/we-know-what-youre-doing-theresa-may-tells-russia-video Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

Go ask Nigel Farage what messages he carried between the US and Assange? How many times he has met Assange? Why he is a 'person on interest' in Mueller's investigation? 

Farage meeting with Assange was reported in the press: Farage is a persona of interest in the Russia Inquiry  https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia

Not Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory.

 

 

You'll not get any answers from Farage but do not be at all surprised if Mueller reveals some very unsavoury truths of Russian interference in British politics, elections and referenda. 

 

All countries with power and influence try to meddle in other countries' affairs. The biggest meddler in recent decades has been the USA. Russia has also resumed being quite successful at it over the last fifteen years. Even countries like the UK have their moments. The reason why Russia is being singled out is because it's a perfect scapegoat for the banking cartels and multinationals, who control most politicians, to overturn democratic votes which mess with their plans. And the msm ensure that plenty of people bite on this, hook line and sinker.

[Khun Han]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean the 'error' that the 'Republican Polical Party' claim exist. 

 

In the spirit of not politicising this that you are keen to follow, let's leave the validity of warrants to the courts shall we.

 

19 Indictments and 5 Guilty pleas. 

 

(The indictments tested before Grand Juries for the very reason of the political nature of the alleged crimes and the political standing of the accused/confessed criminals)

 

 

No, but you could start with the error that the first FISC warrant was obtained without the Steele dossier.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Khun Han said:

 

All countries with power and influence try to meddle in other countries' affairs. The biggest meddler in recent decades has been the USA. Russia has also resumed being quite successful at it over the last fifteen years. Even countries like the UK have their moments. The reason why Russia is being singled out is because it's a perfect scapegoat for the banking cartels and multinationals, who control most politicians, to overturn democratic votes which mess with their plans. And the msm ensure that plenty of people bite on this, hook line and sinker.

How was it you put it..... in your very own words now "Innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory."

 

Really, give it a rest, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.