baz69er Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 The guy who pulled out should be charged for the death of the young lad & I doubt wearing a helmet would of saved him, looked like the song thaew ran over his torso & really don't think the song thaew driver had much to blame as even if he had stomped on the brakes he would of still ran him over, nothing will be learned by this tragic accident, I noticed the guy who caused the accident didn't start taking photos his actions & post it all over Facebook for all to see! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, puchooay said: He also seemed totally oblivious to the fast moving truck that eventually hit him. No use of mirrors. Bit harsh, he was doing somersaults in the air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: Bit harsh, he was doing somersaults in the air. The truck was travelling in the same direction so would obviously been behind him for a while. Like I said, no use of mirrors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Even if he did use his mirrors, what difference would it have made? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Like I said, I know this junction very well. Knowing the whereabouts of traffic around you is paramount. This accident could have been avoided if all involved were aware. I have approached this junction both in a car and on a motorbike from the same direction as the deceased many times. If there is a vehicle near to me from the rear that is stopping me from possibly pulling out to avoid a bike or car coming out of the side road, I will slow down and allow that vehicle to pass before I get to the junction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 In my opinion that's over-cautious and 99% of drivers on the road (in any country) will not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz69er Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: Even if he did use his mirrors, what difference would it have made? 5 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: Bit harsh, he was doing somersaults in the air. For most of the time the mirrors are facing inwards & not outwards which makes it easier for them to see themselves in & also for when they park up to squeeze there spots........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: In my opinion that's over-cautious and 99% of drivers on the road (in any country) will not do that. Well...it's one reason why I have been through that junction many times and am still alive. Over cautious??? I don't think so. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 In fact I think by slowing down for no logical reason would only be more likely to cause an accident, from the vehicle behind hitting you because they would not be expecting you to slow down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, dfdgfdfdgs said: In fact I think by slowing down for no logical reason would only be more likely to cause an accident, from the vehicle behind hitting you because they would not be expecting you to slow down. No. Because I use my mirrors. There is a logical reason. The junction is dangerous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Get Real said: Didn´t miss anything. Just stated that I do not need signs or indications for the use of common sense. Hope you got it this time. I got it ages ago... I sometimes wish I had your superior attitude to driving, because I still need to take notice of signs to help my driving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I don't understand how using your mirrors is going to stop a car behind you crashing into you. Do your mirrors have a retina-activated forcefield? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, puchooay said: No. Because I use my mirrors. There is a logical reason. The junction is dangerous. Had the young man shown your level,of logic (or even the awareness to have seen Mr blue helmet) he may still be alive. It would not have prevented the <deleted> in the blue helmet not looking right, but it may have avoided a collision. Any thoughts on motorcyclists driving in the ‘spillover’ lane ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: I don't understand how using your mirrors is going to stop a car behind you crashing into you. Do your mirrors have a retina-activated forcefield? I do hope you don't drive. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jip99 Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: In fact I think by slowing down for no logical reason would only be more likely to cause an accident, from the vehicle behind hitting you because they would not be expecting you to slow down. Jesus! I hope I never find myself driving in front of you. Learning to expect the unexpected is a useful driving skill. Awareness of what the cars in front of you, and around you, are doing is an essential skill. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jip99 said: I got it ages ago... I sometimes wish I had your superior attitude to driving, because I still need to take notice of signs to help my driving. Does that include stopping and looking before turning out for a sideroad? In that case a feel defamed out of the you say I have a superior attitude, and I truly feel sad knowing that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jip99 said: will wager 20 Baht that there MAY also have been red stop sign before that.. Street view might have given the answer, but I tried hard to exactly locate the spot to no avail. Somewhere in Samet district, Buriram. Edited March 7, 2018 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jip99 said: Any thoughts on motorcyclists driving in the ‘spillover’ lane ? Yeah! It´s wrong. Unfortunately we have people hear that are trying to state that, on some special roads, it´s not illegal to overtake on the inside when they clearly can see that the people overtaking drive in the "spillover lane" That makes your actually clever statement, hard to grasp for the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jip99 said: Jesus! I hope I never find myself driving in front of you. Learning to expect the unexpected is a useful driving skill. Awareness of what the cars in front of you, and around you, are doing is an essential skill. Why? I don't think you read my post properly. Nowhere did I suggest I would not slow down if a vehicle in front of me did. Looking in your mirrors is not going to stop a motorbike emerging in front of you, nor is it going to stop a songtaew on the right of you running over your body. Slowing down everytime a songtaew overtakes you anywhere near a junction is going to cause more accidents than it prevents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Get Real said: Yeah! It´s wrong. Unfortunately we have people hear that are trying to state that, on some special roads, it´s not illegal to overtake on the inside when they clearly can see that the people overtaking drive in the "spillover lane" That makes your actually clever statement, hard to grasp for the majority. Cheers. Indeed it is legal to overtake on the left when there are two, or more, lanes going in the same direction.......still doesn’t t feel right at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, puchooay said: I do hope you don't drive. So you're not going to explain to me how looking in your mirrors is going to prevent a shunt from behind, then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Year 10 would be 15/16 year old student.... nothing unusual about this event....this is how they drive...a number of poor driving actions lead to this incident... not really an accident when there is non compliance behavior all around... next.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: Why? I don't think you read my post properly. Nowhere did I suggest I would not slow down if a vehicle in front of me did. Looking in your mirrors is not going to stop a motorbike emerging in front of you, nor is it going to stop a songtaew on the right of you running over your body. Slowing down everytime a songtaew overtakes you anywhere near a junction is going to cause more accidents than it prevents. Post #74 clearly suggests that you would not be expecting a car in front to slow down. I don’t see how a motorbike slowing down a little before that junction would increase the chances of an accident. We certainly have evidence showing that NOT slowing down contributes to @n accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 charge the motorcyclist on the red and white bike with manslaughter. He broke the law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jip99 said: Cheers. Indeed it is legal to overtake on the left when there are two, or more, lanes going in the same direction.......still doesn’t t feel right at times. Yes, if you do the overtake in one of the lanes. Not legal in the spillover lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said: So you're not going to explain to me how looking in your mirrors is going to prevent a shunt from behind, then. If you have passed a driving test, I would hope I don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, Get Real said: Yes, if you do the overtake in one of the lanes. Not legal in the spillover lane. Agreed..... I don’t think that ‘spillover area’ has any legal status. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, cardinalblue said: a number of poor driving actions lead to this incident... What were they then? The only error I can see was the guy emerging onto the main road without stopping to check it was safe to do so. And the road markings encouraged him to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puchooay Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Street view might have given the answer, but I tried hard to exactly locate the spot to no avail. Somewhere in Samet district, Buriram. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, puchooay said: If you have passed a driving test, I would hope I don't need to. Let's just assume I have never passed a driving test. Can you tell me yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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