webfact Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Porn star offers to repay $130,000 in dispute over alleged Trump affair By Karen Freifeld Adult-film actress Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels, poses for pictures at the end of her striptease show in Gossip Gentleman club in Long Island, New York, U.S., February 23, 2018. REUTERS/Eduardo Munoz WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The adult-film actress who claims she had an affair with Donald Trump before he became U.S. president offered on Monday to return $130,000 (£93,550) that Trump's personal lawyer paid her in what she said was hush money to remain silent about the alleged relationship. Actress Stephanie Clifford, who uses the stage name Stormy Daniels, has said the affair with Trump began in 2006 and lasted several months. Trump has denied he had an affair with Clifford. Clifford proposed on Monday that she be allowed to discuss her alleged affair with the president freely after repaying the money. "This is an extremely fair offer," her attorney, Michael Avenatti, said in an interview. "It accomplishes the goal of allowing the American people to decide who is telling the truth after hearing both sides." The alleged affair has become the latest distraction for Trump as he tries to advance his trade agenda and prepares for a proposed meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. It also threatens to erode the president's support among evangelical voters. Michael Cohen, a private lawyer for Trump, has said he paid Clifford $130,000 of his own money during the 2016 presidential election campaign. Cohen did not explain why he made the payment or say whether Trump was aware of it. http://reut.rs/2GnCPZX Regardless of whether Cohen accepts Clifford's offer, the money is the subject of a complaint by the watchdog group Common Cause to the Federal Election Commission. The group claims it is an illegal campaign contribution because of the size and purpose of the payment. Avenatti in a letter to Cohen, a copy of which was seen by Reuters, said the actress would wire the funds to an account of Trump's choosing by Friday. Avenatti set a deadline of Tuesday for Cohen to respond. Under the proposal, Clifford after returning the money would be allowed to speak "openly and freely about her prior relationship with the president and attempts to silence her." She also would be able to "use and publish any text messages, photos and/or videos relating to the president that she may have in her possession, all without fear of retribution and/or legal liability for damages," the Avenatti letter said. The letter also asked that the president's lawyers agree that neither Trump nor the shell company Cohen used to pay Clifford would attempt to block the broadcast of an interview Clifford taped with CBS News' "60 Minutes" programme last week. And it would require the agreement be signed by all parties, including the president, who did not put his name to the previous nondisclosure deal. Cohen, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the letter, nor did Cohen's attorney. The White House also did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The offer from Avenatti came after White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders told a briefing last week that Trump had won an arbitration proceeding against Clifford. The New York Times reported last week that the president's lawyer had secretly obtained a temporary restraining order to prevent Clifford from speaking out about her alleged affair with Trump. Clifford in turn sued Trump for the right to speak about the "intimate relationship" she claims they had, saying he never signed the agreement to keep her quiet. Clifford could be subjected to a $1 million penalty if she broke the nondisclosure agreement she signed. Avenatti told CNN over the weekend that at least 10 people had offered to pay the penalty if she would discuss the alleged affair. (Reporting by Karen Freifeld and David Alexander; Editing by Cynthia Osterman) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-03-13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 This could be most interesting, since it is the President who has to sign it and has to agree to what account the money is sent to. It will be a tacit confession to the whole sorted mess. There will be no plausible deniability. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Stan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just loving all this going down....maybe she did go down Will be interesting to watch Dotard and his shonky lawyer wriggle out of this.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Quote She also would be able to "use and publish any text messages, photos and/or videos relating to the president that she may have in her possession, all without fear of retribution and/or legal liability for damages," the Avenatti letter said. This is the part that could make it very interesting. There's nothing like a woman scorned and I guess even a porn star has feelings. Edited March 13, 2018 by Credo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, Credo said: This could be most interesting, since it is the President who has to sign it and has to agree to what account the money is sent to. It will be a tacit confession to the whole sorted mess. There will be no plausible deniability. So if I ACCEPT money from person XYZ , then think I can make more money because I'm a greedy bitch, and say I will send it back to Trump's account means Trump has originally sent the money. 555555555555555555 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: So if I ACCEPT money from person XYZ , then think I can make more money because I'm a greedy bitch, and say I will send it back to Trump's account means Trump has originally sent the money. 555555555555555555 So, why would there be an agreement in the first place? Why would money have been given to her? And surely there can't be any texts, tapes, videos or other evidence if nothing happened. I am pretty sure the residuals from her films are doing quite well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ilostmypassword Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: So if I ACCEPT money from person XYZ , then think I can make more money because I'm a greedy bitch, and say I will send it back to Trump's account means Trump has originally sent the money. 555555555555555555 For you, the issue is her reneging on her word. For most, the issue is why would Trump have needed a contract to enforce her silence. What doesn't he want the world to know? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 She's probably raked in a lot more than 130k from the publicity. Openly admitted the whole media coverage has been "good for business". There's probably a few million in the US who wouldn't mind getting easy $ like that. Metoo, yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, ilostmypassword said: For you, the issue is her reneging on her word. For most, the issue is why would Trump have needed a contract to enforce her silence. What doesn't he want the world to know? I thought it was clear, and you are very well aware of this, that Trump never signed any such contract. So which contract that Trump needed is it that you're talking about? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, janclaes47 said: I thought it was clear, and you are very well aware of this, that Trump never signed any such contract. So which contract that Trump needed is it that you're talking about? I never wrote that Trump signed a contract. Cohen signed a contract on behalf of someone with an alias. Are you seriously suggesting that Trump had nothing to do with this? That Cohen did this unilaterally? That he paid $135000 of his own? That Trump couldn't tell Cohen to allow Daniels to renege? How credulous are you, exactly? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janclaes47 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, ilostmypassword said: I never wrote that Trump signed a contract. Cohen signed a contract on behalf of someone with an alias. Are you seriously suggesting that Trump had nothing to do with this? That Cohen did this unilaterally? That he paid $135000 of his own? That Trump couldn't tell Cohen to allow Daniels to renege? How credulous are you, exactly? You Trump haters get really hilarious ............or should that be desperate? 55555555555555555555 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 .. and the world is, soon once again, talking about the size of Trump's penis. If there are photos / videos of Trump naked or having sex, Trump's meetings with foreign leaders might be a bit awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ilostmypassword Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: I never wrote that Trump signed a contract. Cohen signed a contract on behalf of someone with an alias. Are you seriously suggesting that Trump had nothing to do with this? That Cohen did this unilaterally? That he paid $135000 of his own? That Trump couldn't tell Cohen to allow Daniels to renege? How credulous are you, exactly? 6 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: You Trump haters get really hilarious ............or should that be desperate? 55555555555555555555 When you can't answer the question, you attack the questioner. Cowardly. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: You Trump haters get really hilarious ............or should that be desperate? 55555555555555555555 I think sensible is the word you're looking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: I never wrote that Trump signed a contract. Cohen signed a contract on behalf of someone with an alias. Are you seriously suggesting that Trump had nothing to do with this? That Cohen did this unilaterally? That he paid $135000 of his own? That Trump couldn't tell Cohen to allow Daniels to renege? How credulous are you, exactly? The NDA was another Trump scam. He never intended to sign it. Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen, used a notary in Texas to have the agreement signed and notarized. The notary, Erica Jackson, is now under investigation because the agreement was only stamped by the notary, not signed, which is a violation of Texas law. Moreover, there is a side agreement attached to the NDA which disclosed the true party names in the NDA. The notary stamped the notary seal next to where Trump was supposed to sign, but he never signed. A notary must keep a record of all people for whom they provided notary service, which usually consists of recording their name, ID number, and having them sign their record book. It is possible that Cohen somehow obtained the notary stamp and no one ever appeared before Ms. Jackson. Of course, the issue is what was Trump trying to conceal with the NDA. It is more than just the story and evidence of their affair. The NDA suggests that Trump and Daniels were blackmailing each other. It states that Daniels had claims for damages as a result of tortious acts committed by Trump, including invasion of privacy. Daniels was posting things about Trump online and threatening to expose him through the media. Trump probably sent a PI out to get dirt on Daniels, and the investigator probably engaged in illegal conduct in doing so. Who knows, Daniels may have even gotten abortion rather than give birth to another Trump dotard, as the NDA specifically mentions paternity as confidential information. One thing is for sure that the entertaining reality TV president continues his sleazy affairs in the White House. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Stan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: So if I ACCEPT money from person XYZ , then think I can make more money because I'm a greedy bitch, and say I will send it back to Trump's account means Trump has originally sent the money. 555555555555555555 Surely you don't think the lawyer would have paid her $130,000 for a bit of hanky panky for himself Dotard Donny is knee deep in crappola with this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, janclaes47 said: So if I ACCEPT money from person XYZ , then think I can make more money because I'm a greedy bitch, and say I will send it back to Trump's account means Trump has originally sent the money. 555555555555555555 No, the article never said she will send the money back to Trump, it says it would be return to Trumps lawyer. What you read and what you think you read are totally different. 55555555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, janclaes47 said: I thought it was clear, and you are very well aware of this, that Trump never signed any such contract. So which contract that Trump needed is it that you're talking about? Man, Trump supporters are so painfully ignorant that I'm simply at a loss for words. Trump cheated on his current wife with a porn star. After his wife had just given birth to his son, no less. His lawyer tried to pay her off so she'd stay silent. Well now the sht has hit the fan. And this from a President who purports to represent the party of "family values." Are you getting all this? Edited March 13, 2018 by Berkshire 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, janclaes47 said: You Trump haters get really hilarious ............or should that be desperate? 55555555555555555555 ??? as a trump lover, with blind faith in your masters purity of thought and deed, can we assume you would be all for full disclosure of the matter covered by the NDA, to underscore trumps whiteness or do you believe that the truth should remain a dirty little secret? Anyway.... , now that the cats (lol... right?) out of the bag, “we, the people” should be entitled to an explaination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 In the morality department, ironically this porn star trumps "trump" bigly. In a normal president this scandal would be front page news for months. But with "trump" it's just one of so many scandals. Scandal overload. He's making us numb. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mike324 said: No, the article never said she will send the money back to Trump, it says it would be return to Trumps lawyer. What you read and what you think you read are totally different. 55555555555 This is what I read in the article, but maybe you have a different one then. " Avenatti in a letter to Cohen, a copy of which was seen by Reuters, said the actress would wire the funds to an account of Trump's choosing by Friday. " So why would Trump have to choose an account, if he didn't sent the money in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Who cares if Trump has had an affair with a pornstar , even while married ? It's just another attack on him because he is president and some folks can't live with that. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Credo said: This could be most interesting, since it is the President who has to sign it and has to agree to what account the money is sent to. It will be a tacit confession to the whole sorted mess. There will be no plausible deniability. "the whole sorted mess." The whole sordid mess is far from being sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Who cares if Trump has had an affair with a pornstar , even while married ? It's just another attack on him because he is president and some folks can't live with that. You miss the point.It's not the schtupping.It's the coverup. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, BuaBS said: Who cares if Trump has had an affair with a pornstar , even while married ? It's just another attack on him because he is president and some folks can't live with that. I certainly don't care, but there again, I'm not American, However, I do expect politicians to have skeletons in their closets. After all, Clinton "did not have sex with that woman!" Did he? Edited March 13, 2018 by sambum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I certainly don't care, but there again, I'm not American, However, I do expect politicians to have skeletons in their closets. After all, Clinton "did not have sex with that woman!" Did he?Again you miss the point.Not about the schtupping.About the coverup.Duh. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Again you miss the point. Not about the schtupping. About the coverup. Duh. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Duh? Not missing the point at all - I don't suppose Clinton tried to cover up his "affair"either? Duh! And "Who cares if Trump has had an affair with a pornstar , even while married ?" I would imagine quite a few million God fearing Americans who take pride in their "family values" might be a trifle concerned that their President is/was "schtupping" (?) with a porn star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Duh? Not missing the point at all - I don't suppose Clinton tried to cover up his "affair"either? Duh! And "Who cares if Trump has had an affair with a pornstar , even while married ?" I would imagine quite a few million God fearing Americans who take pride in their "family values" might be a trifle concerned that their President is/was "schtupping" (?) with a porn star Clinton got in trouble for lying.Not the affair.In the Stormy incident its more like the payoff lawyer that is exposed. Fair chance he will be disbarred."trump" has more serious issues to worry about such as being charged with collusion with Russia, obstruction of Justice, and money laundering for Russian oligarchs.This is embarrassing for "trump" but that could be trivial considering his epic shamelessness and ability to spin everything to the benefit of his ego. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 It's peanuts Ive turned down more than that from pornstars. In fact, there's one coming up right now - sorry must fly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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