webfact Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Premchai poaching probe to consider ‘new angles’ By Pratch Rujivanarom The Nation The investigation team into the allegations against construction tycoon Premchai Karnasuta for illegal poaching in a wildlife sanctuary will dig deeper, as prosecutors say they have found important “new angles” that will make their case firmer. Attorney General’s Office deputy spokesperson Trumph Charliechan told a press conference on Tuesday morning that the prosecuting attorneys had read the docket of evidence in the Premchai case and decided to let the investigation team look into few specific topics related to the circumstance of the crime. This would enhance the comprehensiveness and sturdiness of the indictment, he said. Trumph said the investigation team would have to submit results on the assigned topics by next Monday. He gave his assurance that this order would not delay the prosecution of the case. “It is very important to make sure that the indictment in this case will be as prudent as possible,” he said. “The prime suspect, Premchai, strongly insists that he did not commit any of the offences, so a comprehensive and firm indictment will be very important to bring him to justice.” Trumph declined to clarify details of the new angles being investigated, saying that disclosure would negatively affect litigation. He also said that there was enough time for prosecutors to take the case to the court, as the suspects were currently under their fourth session of remand and police could still remand them for three more sessions. According to law, the prosecuting attorney can detain the suspects for 12 days per each remand session. For this case, they can detain the suspects for 36 days after the fourth remand session ends on Sunday. Currently, Premchai is free on bail of Bt150,000. The Region 7 Attorney Office director, Somsri Wattanapaisan, said the working group on this case was operating without any influence and according to legal proceedings, so the public could be sure that the case would be litigated justly. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30341335 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-03-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The thing that seems to be missing every time this story resurfaces, is how long a man can expect in jail if found guilty. Its absence leads me to suspect that it will be none at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted March 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2018 "Attorney General’s Office deputy spokesperson Trumph Charliechan told a press conference...." Now there's man with a name that should get results. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: Wattanapaisan, said the working group on this case was operating without any influence and according to legal proceedings, so the public could be sure that the case would be litigated justly. Please,please,do not tell us what we can be sure of 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted March 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: "Attorney General’s Office deputy spokesperson Trumph Charliechan told a press conference...." Now there's man with a name that should get results. He'll probably tweet the results. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: According to law, the prosecuting attorney can detain the suspects for 12 days per each remand session. For this case, they can detain the suspects for 36 days after the fourth remand session ends on Sunday. Currently, Premchai is free on bail of Bt150,000. How can a person free on bail be considered as being 'detained' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Seriously... He allegedly shot a panther and cooked soup on it, and was caught with the spoon in the soup. Bad, bad, bad..... But hardly the crime of the century...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hathairat2711 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: The thing that seems to be missing every time this story resurfaces, is how long a man can expect in jail if found guilty. Its absence leads me to suspect that it will be none at all. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/public-prosecutor-wants-evidence-police-prosecute-premchai/ She said the public prosecutors viewed this case as an uncomplicated case with light penalties but it involved high-profile person and attracted a lot of public attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebo Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, YetAnother said: How can a person free on bail be considered as being 'detained' ? You don't ask this seriously, do you ...?! BTW - he is not "considered as being detained". He is considered as caning being detained. Big difference, especially when it comes to brown envelopes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted March 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 3:44 PM, webfact said: Attorney General’s Office deputy spokesperson Trumph Charliechan If anyone can get to the bottom of this, it surely must be... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 ‘New angle’ strengthens case against Premchai: prosecutors By PRATCH RUJIVANAROM, KORNKAMON DEJ-AKSORN KANATHIT SRIHIRANDEJ THE NATION PROSECUTORS have found a “new angle” they have claimed solidifies poaching allegations against Italian-Thai Develop-ment Plc president Premchai Karnasuta, while his wife was yesterday charged with possessing two pairs of African elephant tusks without a permit. The Attorney-General’s Office deputy spokesperson, Trumph Charliechan, said at a press conference that a deeper investigation of a “new angle” of the poaching charge would be conducted to bolster the indictment. Investigators would look into a few specific topics related to the crime, which were not included in the earlier version of the case, he said. The team would submit results by next Monday, he said. The prosecutor declined to give details of the “new angle”, saying that a disclosure would negatively affect litigation. “It is very important to make sure that the indictment in this case will be as prudent as possible,” he said. “The prime suspect, Premchai, strongly insists that he did not commit any of the offences, so a comprehensive and firm indictment will be very important to bring him to justice.” Premchai is currently free on bail of Bt150,000. Meanwhile, Deputy Police Commissioner Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul said police had summoned Premchai and his chauffeur Yong Dodkreau to hear a new charge on bribery in relation to the case. Police have completed the interrogation of Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary chief Wichian Shinwong and other forest rangers to confirm the allegation that Premchai had offered a bribe to Wichian to not arresting him. Premchai and Yong denied the charge, saying they would speak to the court only. Srivara has ordered investigators to finish the indictment on the allegation by the end of this month. Meanwhile, the head of the Corruption and Misconduct Division, Pol Maj-General Kamon Rien-archa, said that during an unofficial talk with Premchai and Yong, he had found conflicting information as Yong admitted only that it was his voice in a recording, but declined to elaborate. Police have a recording of a conversation involving three persons, one of whom suggests that a bribe might have been offered to Wichian. Premchai’s wife Kanitha Karnasuta was charged yesterday with possessing two pairs of African elephant tusks without a permit. She told police that she did not know the tusks were from Africa. The seizure of the tusks and 43 guns from Premchai’s house in Bangkok came after Premchai was arrested in early February on nine counts of poaching in the Kanchanaburi wildlife sanctuary. A woman, Wandee Sompoom, was also charged as she countersigned a permit application that said the tusks were from Asian elephants. Srivara, as chief investigator, said both suspects denied the charge, insisting they did not know the tusks were from African elephants. Kanitha claimed that she had inherited the tusks from her relatives who were already dead, he said. Forensic officials identified the tusks as being from Africa but could not find records of them being imported. “Therefore, the presence of the tusks was violating Customs laws. However, in their defence, [the Karnasutas] claimed they thought the tusks were from Thai elephants,” Srivara said. Meanwhile, Banyat Sai-arun, director of the wildlife protection division of the Department of National Parks and Wildlife, said photos of the tusks and their sizes were provided during the permit application. The permits were registered in 2015. Both suspects were freed on a total bail of Bt300,000 yesterday. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30341366 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-03-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Ah, the old gift from an untraceable source excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Could it be possible that this guy is actually going to go down? I've never seen such well publicised follow-up before. We can but hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Juan B Tong said: Ah, the old gift from an untraceable source excuse. “Untraceable source” crap was learned from little P. (You lead, I follow). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchega Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 incredible, this old git must have pissed off some government people, perhaps the bloke with watches does not like him? or the PM? usually it would just float away still time for him to skip the country though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Katipo said: Could it be possible that this guy is actually going to go down? I've never seen such well publicised follow-up before. We can but hope. They are going so hard at him, because he is an old friend of Thaksin.... Not because the juridical system suddenly became fair and transparent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Katipo said: Could it be possible that this guy is actually going to go down? I've never seen such well publicised follow-up before. We can but hope. Nothing to hope for,..... more brown envelopes to be prepared soon........ each party is just buying time for one another......... Edited March 21, 2018 by MaxLee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Pick any angle you like, if you don't ever go to court they just don't matter. But if you come up with enough "angles" your envelopes will get fatter...carry on, your doing great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 5:25 PM, JOC said: Seriously... He allegedly shot a panther and cooked soup on it, and was caught with the spoon in the soup. Bad, bad, bad..... But hardly the crime of the century...... You're right. 1 tiger. Another guy killed 16 elephants for tails and tusks, and another had chopped up bear parts for sale in his backpack. Both commercial poaches killing dozens of animals a year. No dna, no detention, no prison, no body gives a hoot. Let's face it. Someone wants him off the board of directors! !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyzero Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 This guy sure has pis—-d. In somebody’s corn flakes. There nailing him with anything and everything must be a new developer waiting in the ropes that is related to someone special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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