Cracks Appear In Post-Yingluck Pheu Thai Party

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter

 

  

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra talks with army chief on Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha at the Army Club in Bangkok on Dec. 3, 2013

 

BANGKOK — After nearly 10 years as Pheu Thai Party’s southern bloc, a coalition of Muslim politicians in the south that’s switched sides six times is set to do it again.

 

A week after word got out that they are setting up a new party of their own, a leader of the Wadah group said Wednesday that its chameleon nature should not be viewed as betrayal.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2018/03/29/cracks-appear-in-post-yingluck-pheu-thai-party/

 

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How is it a crack when an opportunistic group  switches again, for the 7th time? Already the stuff of nation building is it? And people wonder why  the electorate has so little confidence in the integrity of its politicians.

Yeah?

 

Thai politics-just like Thai Scrabble,

 

 

I doubt if they will be nominating the current incumbent as the future pm.

Whether this party sticks with Pheu Thai or not is probably academic - since it is highly unlikely that Prayut and his gang will allow the Pheu Thai party to run in any (bogus) election. That was the whole point (or one of them) of the last four years: to oust Pheu Thai from the political landscape.

 

Whether Prayut and his mob will succeed without a degree of bloodshed is very unlikely in my view. But succeed in keeping the wished-for representatives of the (majority) Thai people from power, through all manner of devious and disgraceful means, he probably will. 

 

"I have a feeling this will not have a happy ending" she said.

 

Just now, PatOngo said:

 

"I have a feeling this will not have a happy ending" she said.

 

Yes, isn't it infuriating to see a shameless traitor standing hypocritically there, waiting to stab the PM in the back. Filth of the lowest order.

Yet another politician who hasnt spent a day doing real military service dressing up in uniform.

Disgraceful

1 minute ago, Expatthailover said:

Yet another politician who hasnt spent a day doing real military service dressing up in uniform.

Disgraceful

Yes - Prayut, a soldier-less soldier, calls himself a 'politician' these days (when it suits him) - so I would agree with your comment (although you may not agree with my interpretation - ha ha!).

Prawit shows remarkable restraint by not staring at Yingluck's chest and medals.

Great news piece by piece Thaksins power is eroded. Finally people start to understand the PTP is a sinking ship. May many more follow their example.

I hope the new parties fill up the void. The old has failed its time for the new.

This is no stab in the back like our red leaning members claim. This is all above board letting the people know before an election. Let thw people judge if they still want to vote PTP they can.

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17 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

How is it a crack when an opportunistic group  switches again, for the 7th time? Already the stuff of nation building is it? And people wonder why  the electorate has so little confidence in the integrity of its politicians.

The south is not their power base anyway.  It looks to be more of a small chip than a crack.  As Sutep said, the PTP will win which makes the coup a total waste of time and reputation. 

17 hours ago, Expatthailover said:

Yet another politician who hasnt spent a day doing real military service dressing up in uniform.

Disgraceful

Well to be fair, he didn't declare himself to be  politician until several years after the photo was taken.

17 hours ago, PatOngo said:

 

"I have a feeling this will not have a happy ending" she said.

 

"But whether for you or me only time will tell!"

The south is not their power base anyway.  It looks to be more of a small chip than a crack.  As Sutep said, the PTP will win which makes the coup a total waste of time and reputation. 

Read the article its not just the south. Interesting times ahead.

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5 minutes ago, robblok said:

Read the article its not just the south. Interesting times ahead.

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I would agree with you on one thing, yes, there are interesting times ahead.

 

One of the most interesting times is likely to be when the junta engineers some excuse to disband Pheu Thai or prevent them from standing for election.

 

As an aside, one of the more interesting aspects, as a farang observer, will be watching the entertaining mental gymnastics which will no doubt be demonstrated by various junta apologists trying to justify such a move!

 

As you say, interesting times...

17 minutes ago, JAG said:

I would agree with you on one thing, yes, there are interesting times ahead.

 

One of the most interesting times is likely to be when the junta engineers some excuse to disband Pheu Thai or prevent them from standing for election.

 

As an aside, one of the more interesting aspects, as a farang observer, will be watching the entertaining mental gymnastics which will no doubt be demonstrated by various junta apologists trying to justify such a move!

 

As you say, interesting times...

No need to justify anything, a new law has been drafted preventing outside influences on the PTP ( Thaksin). I mean, having the PM being told what to do by an outside influence in skype calls is not really a normal thing, neither is it that the MP's come to ask Thaksin for his blessing and new positions. He is the defacto leader while nobody voted for him not real democratic.

 

That is of course a good thing I mean in no normal democracy would they allow a criminal on the run lead a party and finance it. 

 

So yea there is a chance the PTP gets disbanded unless they make a clean break from Thaksin. That is part of the reason why many are defecting, they understand that as long as they are associated with Thaksin they run a riskl.

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Great news piece by piece Thaksins power is eroded. Finally people start to understand the PTP is a sinking ship. May many more follow their example.

I hope the new parties fill up the void. The old has failed its time for the new.

This is no stab in the back like our red leaning members claim. This is all above board letting the people know before an election. Let thw people judge if they still want to vote PTP they can.

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This article is clearly written by someone anti PTP.....And of course Robbie picks the pieces, that suits his agenda

That the southern Muslims were going to start their own party is old news.......And was okay'ed by Thaksin..

You clearly have no idea about, how strong the Thaksin-brand still is in the north and the north-east.....

If the election is ever allowed to take place......and the PTP is not banned.....They will win a landslide

Prayut knows that and that is why the elections are postponed again and again...

21 hours ago, robblok said:

21 hours ago, JAG said:

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No need to justify anything, a new law has been drafted preventing outside influences on the PTP ( Thaksin).

And that new law is doing it's job......??

Yesterday in Japan...They just have to show up to get more attention than The Great Savior aka Prayut will ever get...

 

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19 hours ago, Eligius said:

Whether this party sticks with Pheu Thai or not is probably academic - since it is highly unlikely that Prayut and his gang will allow the Pheu Thai party to run in any (bogus) election. That was the whole point (or one of them) of the last four years: to oust Pheu Thai from the political landscape.

 

Whether Prayut and his mob will succeed without a degree of bloodshed is very unlikely in my view. But succeed in keeping the wished-for representatives of the (majority) Thai people from power, through all manner of devious and disgraceful means, he probably will. 

I don't think any country with a proper democratic system would allow a party like the PTP stand in an election.  50 of its MPs are facing corruption charges. It's controlled by a criminal on the run who finances and pays all the MPs. Of course there are some misinformed people who will claim that the 17 cases of proven corruption against Taskin are politically motivated, including of course the huge loan to the Burmese government without Parliamentary approval provided they buy his satellite equipment!!  and I'm sure no country would accept people like  PTP Chalerm as a cabinet minister.

 

12 minutes ago, JOC said:

This article is clearly written by someone anti PTP.....And of course Robbie picks the pieces, that suits his agenda

That the southern Muslims were going to start their own party is old news.......And was okay'ed by Thaksin..

You clearly have no idea about, how strong the Thaksin-brand still is in the north and the north-east.....

If the election is ever allowed to take place......and the PTP is not banned.....They will win a landslide

Prayut knows that and that is why the elections are postponed again and again...

Khaosod is certainly no anti Thaksin newspaper, and if you read the full article you would know its not just the South.

19 hours ago, JOC said:

And that new law is doing it's job......??

Yesterday in Japan...They just have to show up to get more attention than The Great Savior aka Prayut will ever get...

 

Not sure if this law is doing its job.. but I think the PTP will be in hot water if the powers that be can prove Thaksin leads the PTP. Then they might get dissolved. That is why at the last meeting with Thaksin suddenly all that attended said that it was not political. You need to keep up a bit JOC.

20 hours ago, webfact said:

a coalition of Muslim politicians in the south that’s switched sides six times is set to do it again.

Muslim's are not "switching sides" but more just not committing itself to the PTP.

Muslim politicians are taking a more independent political stance. In view of the substantial Muslim opposition to the junta's referendum on the constitution and Prayut's failure to successfully engage in peace talks with the Muslim insurgency, I doubt the Wadah group will align with pro-military Democrats or any other pro-military party.

 

The impact to the PTP is only symbolic. No matter what party gains a majority in a coalition, Wadah will have an almost nonexistent presence in parliament.

Furthermore, due to the influence of Suthep, it has been the Democrats that have dominated the south in elections. Better to examine Suthep's talk of leaving the Democrats and creating a new party, ie., to nominate Prayut as PM versus the Democrats who likely favor Abhisit.

22 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra talks with army chief on Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha at the Army Club in Bangkok on Dec. 3, 2013

That photo was taken less than 6 months before the coup.

Looking at his facial expression, he already knew what lay ahead. TRAITOR!

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Great news piece by piece Thaksins power is eroded. Finally people start to understand the PTP is a sinking ship. May many more follow their example.

I hope the new parties fill up the void. The old has failed its time for the new.

This is no stab in the back like our red leaning members claim. This is all above board letting the people know before an election. Let thw people judge if they still want to vote PTP they can.

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Wishful thinking robblok- the Wadah faction actually went to see Thaksin before asking permission to leave. They are not important in terms of forming a government. The article just mentions a few rumours of factions thinking of leaving Pheau Thai- no doubt the military is doing all it can to weaken Pheua Thai because if itwins the election it may be 'check bin time' for Prayuth etc- PheuaThai seek revenge for the coup. 

Note Thaksin is seen with Yingluk in nearly every photo these days. He knows she is viewed sympathetically by all PheuaThai supporters. He is just telling the voters Pheua Thai is here to stay and no doubt they will remain loyal to the party.

Dissolve the party? No problem, it's been done before- Thai Rak Thai and Palang Prachachon mutated into Pheua Thai.

 

22 hours ago, Expatthailover said:

Yet another politician who hasnt spent a day doing real military service dressing up in uniform.

Disgraceful

 

Wonder what she got all those medals for?

 

Flying in helicopters without lights, telling biggest whoppers, English speaking, oratory skills, economics??

46 minutes ago, Siripon said:

Wishful thinking robblok- the Wadah faction actually went to see Thaksin before asking permission to leave. They are not important in terms of forming a government. The article just mentions a few rumours of factions thinking of leaving Pheau Thai- no doubt the military is doing all it can to weaken Pheua Thai because if itwins the election it may be 'check bin time' for Prayuth etc- PheuaThai seek revenge for the coup. 

Note Thaksin is seen with Yingluk in nearly every photo these days. He knows she is viewed sympathetically by all PheuaThai supporters. He is just telling the voters Pheua Thai is here to stay and no doubt they will remain loyal to the party.

Dissolve the party? No problem, it's been done before- Thai Rak Thai and Palang Prachachon mutated into Pheua Thai.

 

 

Or maybe they just have that wonderful eldest brother / youngest sister relationship the Hollywood has often dreamed about!

To all the political "experts" here....

The white uniforms are not military uniforms......but government uniforms....

4 hours ago, gamini said:

I don't think any country with a proper democratic system would allow a party like the PTP stand in an election.  50 of its MPs are facing corruption charges. It's controlled by a criminal on the run who finances and pays all the MPs. Of course there are some misinformed people who will claim that the 17 cases of proven corruption against Taskin are politically motivated, including of course the huge loan to the Burmese government without Parliamentary approval provided they buy his satellite equipment!!  and I'm sure no country would accept people like  PTP Chalerm as a cabinet minister.

 

Not exactly new information. Just like corruption, most Thais accept those misgivings. Thaksin in Japan predict 220-230 seats in the coming election. I wouldn’t take his prediction lightly and he knows better than the junta. 

36 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Wonder what she got all those medals for?

 

Flying in helicopters without lights, telling biggest whoppers, English speaking, oratory skills, economics??

Maybe these:-

Royal Decorations

•  Dame Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant: 6 April 2012
•  Dame Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand: 20 March 2012
•  The Boy Scout Citation Medal (First Class)