Have you ever been a victim of "Non-Violent Crime" in Thailand???

[Mario666]

I replied today as you will read below to another post today about "Have you ever been a victim of violent crime in Thailand?"

 

Sorry if you read this already.

 

However, on reflection I realise that my reply was probably not directly relevant to the question, but I feel it deserves an airing in its own right and welcome your replies if the moderators post it.

 

The only violent crime I have experienced personally was being kicked in the shin by a ladyboy with platform shoes (which caused internal bleeding leading to cellulitis and 11 days in hospital on IV antibiotics) and a 20,000Thb bill.

 

However, I have been the victim of other "non-violent" Thai crimes.

 

I was threatened by a street vendor with a knife for unwittingly parking my car on his patch just as he was arriving with his "Mobile Restaurant". When he pulled a knife I jumped into my car with him yelling some Thai unutterables...mostly E-HEEYA (however you spell it)? and as I drove off he knifed my car leaving a forty inch scratch across 2 door panels.

 

Another time when my passport had been lovingly laundered by my girlfriend with my shorts, I got ripped off for a bribe at Samui immigration by "Mr. Angry"  the Head bloke (whom I believe is now in Jail for corruption? Please feel to confirm or disagree....just a rumour I heard).

 

I went to get my extension of stay based on retirement. At first he refused to give me the extension as many of the the stamps had been washed out. After getting my friendly Visa Agent (H****rt) if you live on Samui you will know who I mean......he charged me 11 Grand....A non-violent crime?

 

My original reply was as follows:

 

Been here (mostly Samui) 12 years on and off.

 

About 5 years ago I picked up a bar girl and we "got on" pretty well or so I thought and she became a regular over-nighter.

 

Then she left Samui but called me several months later from somewhere up North and said she wanted to come for a holiday on Samui to see some friends and asked if she could stay with me for a few days. So I said okay.

 

So she came and we had fun for a few days but shortly after she left I was at the ATM and noticed my Balance was much lower than I expected.

 

So I went to my bank and got statements (KTB do not issue them to me automatically) and went through the transactions and noticed several withdrawals of 20,000 Thb around the time she had stayed with me. I always keep a minimum of 1m Thb in my account for retirement extension purposes and I noticed that suddenly I was down to about 900k.

 

It transpires she had secretly watched me at the ATM, observed my PIN and took my card, stole the money and returned the card to my wallet without me knowing. The mistake she made though was I had put a maximum withdrawal limit of 20k per day on the card and just before she left she got greedy and did an ATM transfer for 60k to her own account. In total she had taken 160k.....could have been much worse.

 

So I went to the tourist police in Chaweng about 10km from where I live as the local police do not speak English and were not interested anyway. I devised a sting to catch her and they agreed to do it.

 

So I invited her to come back to Samui for a few days and arranged to meet her a a local bar in Lamai at 1:00pm. The plan was I would buy her a drink and once she was settled go to the toilet and call them (they were waiting round the corner).

 

So she arrived and it went like clockwork. When they arrested her she went ballistic screaming she was innocent and they struggled to bundle her into the cop car. She even jumped out of the offside door to try and escape so I "rugby tackled" her and stopped her. They were going to take her back to Chaweng to charge her and asked me to sit in the back with her.

 

I politely refused as by now she was a "wild cat" and said I would go on my motorcy and meet them at the Police station in Chaweng some 30 minutes drive away.

 

I duly arrived, but there was no sign of the cops or the girl. After waiting 20 minutes or so I asked the desk sergeant what was happening so he called them and they said they had been delayed enroute. I waited another 30 minutes and still no sign so I said to the DS I was going for a coffee round the corner and asked him to call me when they arrived,

 

After another 30 minutes or so I had not heard anything so I went back to the cop shop. The two cops were there but no girlie. They told me she had got out of the car and run away when they had stopped at some traffic lights (they had not handcuffed her).

 

I let them know that I thought they were bullshitting and had taken a bribe at which point they "Advised " me to leave or face arrest myself.

 

Admittedly this was not physically "violent" but it will be if I ever see her again.

 

Never heard from them or the girl again and KTB said it was my fault and refused any compensation.....What do you think??????

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mario666

 

[Kwasaki]

20 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

personally was being kicked in the shin by a lady-boy

I deduce a reaction of an insult concerning lady-boys.

 

21 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

unwittingly parking my car on his patch

Usually obvious where street patches set up, take more notice. 

 

22 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

passport had been lovingly laundered by my girlfriend with my shorts

A passport should always be kept safe, you are only required to carry a copy of your passport.

 

23 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

At first he refused to give me the extension as many of the the stamps had been washed out.

The passport should of been renewed before applying.

 

23 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

About 5 years ago I picked up a bar girl

she observed my PIN and took my card, stole the money and returned the card to my wallet without me knowing. 

Leaving your wallet for a temporary girl companion to have access to is asking for it.

 

44 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

I devised a sting to catch her and they agreed to do it.

That's entrapment and would be thrown out of a court.

 

26 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

Admittedly this was not physically "violent" but it will be if I ever see her again

So you would be violent to a womam

 

26 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

What do you think??????

After some 12 years you should know better. 

[ev1lchris]

Some ladyboys pickpocketed my phone.

[Mario666]

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I deduce a reaction of an insult concerning lady-boys.

 

Usually obvious where street patches set up, take more notice. 

 

A passport should always be kept safe, you are only required to carry a copy of your passport.

 

The passport should of been renewed before applying.

 

Leaving your wallet for a temporary girl companion to have access to is asking for it.

 

That's entrapment and would be thrown out of a court.

 

After some 12 years you should know better. 

Well aren't you a smart "Ducker"

 

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I deduce a reaction of an insult concerning lady-boys.

 

Usually obvious where street patches set up, take more notice. 

 

A passport should always be kept safe, you are only required to carry a copy of your passport.

 

The passport should of been renewed before applying.

 

Leaving your wallet for a temporary girl companion to have access to is asking for it.

 

That's entrapment and would be thrown out of a court.

 

So you would be violent to a womam

 

After somthee 12 years you should know better. 

Well aren't you a "Super Smart" Ducker???..and if you are so focused on detail I said that it happened about 5 years ago.....Guess you failed the intelligence the test to be a detective?....you said "After some 12 years you should know better."

 

As regards the ladyboy in question she was already Shit Faced so I told her to "Do One"' when she bothered me to buy her a drink.

 

Passport admittedly my fault for leaving in my shorts.

 

Wallet ...again my fault...You are right!

 

Then you write "Usually obvious where street patches set up, take more notice." about the mobile street vendor.....Do these people own public roads or in this case a Back Alley????

 

Then you put "That's entrapment and would be thrown out of a court". ...I had the record of the bank transfer from mine to hers!

 

Then you put "So  you would be violent to a womam"....What exactly is a "womam????

 

Over to you Mr. Einstein!!!

 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Mario666 said:

Well aren't you a smart "Ducker"

 

Well aren't you a "Super Smart" Ducker???..and if you are so focused on detail I said that it happened about 5 years ago.....Guess you failed the intelligence the test to be a detective?....you said "After some 12 years you should know better."

 

As regards the ladyboy in question she was already Shit Faced so I told her to "Do One"' when she bothered me to buy her a drink.

 

Passport admittedly my fault for leaving in my shorts.

 

Wallet ...again my fault...You are right!

 

Then you write "Usually obvious where street patches set up, take more notice." about the mobile street vendor.....Do these people own public roads or in this case a Back Alley????

 

Then you put "That's entrapment and would be thrown out of a court". ...I had the record of the bank transfer from mine to hers!

 

Then you put "So  you would be violent to a womam"....What exactly is a "womam????

 

Over to you Mr. Einstein!!!

 

As in the words of a Judge I just knew you were going to say that. 

Einstein has a lower IQ than me. 

Edited April 21, 2018 by Kwasaki

[Mario666]

4 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

As in the words of a Judge I just knew you were going to say that. 

Einstein has a lower IQ than me. 

I Doubt That

[Don Chance]

Some little biker dude in Krabi who runs a bar took a bad shine to me. He kept on touting me to come to his bar and just ignored him, said hello, nothing rude (i don't drink often.) Then one day he start yelling at me '<deleted>, <deleted>, <deleted>..." and almost every time he sees me he gives me some threatening look or says something rude in broken English. It is basically criminal harassment.  Again i did nothing to provoke this guy and continue to just ignore and avoid him. He is probably on meth and unhappy that his bar is not turning a profit. 

 

I wish Thailand would really enforce their drug laws and start with these skid bars that all sell drugs.  Farangs would not get their supply and not get busted.

[simoh1490]

A check out girl at Big C failed to give me my 20 satang change so I had to make a scene.

 

A katoey at a service station didn't reset the pump so I overpaid 35 baht for the previous motorbike.

 

A tuk-tuk in Chiang Mai charged me 60 baht instead of 40 baht to go into the city.

 

A girl on Beach Road accused me publically of stealing her umbrella, until her friend slapped her and told her she had it.

 

I ordered a take away pizza with pepperoni and Italian sausage and they left off the Italian sausage yet I paid full price and didn't realise until I got home.

 

The list is almost endless, there are criminals everywhere and you have to be sooooo careful. 

 

 

 

[dotpoom]

Every day it happens to me .....when "she who must be obeyed" puts up on the table what she calls .......Breakfast.

[simoh1490]

To add:

 

Makro's version of Cumberland Sausage, there's a crime if ever there was one.

[Mario666]

2 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

To add:

 

Makro's version of Cumberland Sausage, there's a crime if ever there was one.

Yeh Ha, ha ha....and their "Herb Sausages" are FF-ing awful ....They stink and repeat on you for hours....A bit like an English teacher we had at school who smoked too much. His name was Pongo Robinson

[Ulic]

Quite a few actually. Immigration in Phuket Airport asked for 1,500 overstay when I

was only two days over. The officer saw I had extra baht in my wallet. Police occasionally.

One time my friend was stopped for not wearing a helmet. I pulled over as well. My friend

was giving him the gears, I started to giggle. The officer became irate at me. Gave me a

ticket for not wearing a helmet. When I protested as I was wearing a helmet he said the chin

strap was not tight enough and I got a ticket along with my buddy. A few other similar po-po

shakedowns. The only significant loss was 19k baht. A lady friend I "invited" home for the

 

 

night. She jimmied the lock on a drawer and took 19k of 25 I had in a billfold. Lessons learned.

[Mario666]

3 minutes ago, Ulic said:

Quite a few actually. Immigration in Phuket Airport asked for 1,500 overstay when I

was only two days over. The officer saw I had extra baht in my wallet. Police occasionally.

One time my friend was stopped for not wearing a helmet. I pulled over as well. My friend

was giving him the gears, I started to giggle. The officer became irate at me. Gave me a

ticket for not wearing a helmet. When I protested as I was wearing a helmet he said the chin

strap was not tight enough and I got a ticket along with my buddy. A few other similar po-po

shakedowns. The only significant loss was 19k baht. A lady friend I "invited" home for the

 

 

night. She jimmied the lock on a drawer and took 19k of 25 I had in a billfold. Lessons learned.

At least she had the decency to leave you 6K...You should be grateful.

Edited April 22, 2018 by Mario666
correction

[Acemaker]

 

18 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

As in the words of a Judge I just knew you were going to say that. 

Einstein has a lower IQ than me. 

I bet your Mouth is alot bigger though, especially when youve had a few Bottles of Cheap Charlie Chang.   

Edited April 22, 2018 by Acemaker

[Bangkok Barry]

Re money 'disappearing'. A very similar thing happened with my best friend, and he ended up dead. He noticed money vanishing from an account he held and suspected that his wife was making secret withdrawals, using his card when he was sleeping. He told her that he was going to his bank, which required a trip from Roi Et to Bangkok, to check through things with them, and a day or two later he mysteriously got food poisoning.

He was hospitalised, but was eventually allowed home - where he soon mysteriously 'fell' down the stairs. Back to the hospital where he developed complications and died soon after. Before he died I asked if they could check for any poisons in his system and they lied and said they already had (not routine procedure I'm sure, so I'm sure they lied). His wife rarely visited him in hospital, and soon after he died she linked up with a 'former' boyfriend.

[Mario666]

8 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Re money 'disappearing'. A very similar thing happened with my best friend, and he ended up dead. He noticed money vanishing from an account he held and suspected that his wife was making secret withdrawals, using his card when he was sleeping. He told her that he was going to his bank, which required a trip from Roi Et to Bangkok, to check through things with them, and a day or two later he mysteriously got food poisoning.

He was hospitalised, but was eventually allowed home - where he soon mysteriously 'fell' down the stairs. Back to the hospital where he developed complications and died soon after. Before he died I asked if they could check for any poisons in his system and they lied and said they already had (not routine procedure I'm sure, so I'm sure they lied). His wife rarely visited him in hospital, and soon after he died she linked up with a 'former' boyfriend.

Smells worse than "Pla Ra" to me...poor guy

[Fairynuff]

On 4/21/2018 at 7:44 AM, Kwasaki said:

The passport should of been renewed before applying.

When you’re trying to be clever try not to make grammatical errors

[chrisinth]

7 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

A check out girl at Big C failed to give me my 20 satang change so I had to make a scene.

 

A katoey at a service station didn't reset the pump so I overpaid 35 baht for the previous motorbike.

 

A tuk-tuk in Chiang Mai charged me 60 baht instead of 40 baht to go into the city.

 

A girl on Beach Road accused me publically of stealing her umbrella, until her friend slapped her and told her she had it.

 

I ordered a take away pizza with pepperoni and Italian sausage and they left off the Italian sausage yet I paid full price and didn't realise until I got home.

 

The list is almost endless, there are criminals everywhere and you have to be sooooo careful. 

 

 

 

Don't often advise people as to what to do but I think you need to re-assess your personal life here.

 

That's a bit too close to the razor's edge for me. You have obviously more adventure in you than I could endure.

 

[Mac98]

I carry a decoy wallet in my back pocket. It was lifted at an ATM in a CM mall.

[wgdanson]

Does bad advice from an I F A count as non- violent crime. If so, YES.

[Mario666]

42 minutes ago, Fairynuff said:

When you’re trying to be clever try not to make grammatical errors

Nice one FN...I spotted it too but don't want to get into a spat with anyone....This is supposed to be fun...Yeh?

[Mario666]

31 minutes ago, Mac98 said:

I carry a decoy wallet in my back pocket. It was lifted at an ATM in a CM mall.

Begs the question "Where was your real wallet?"...On second thoughts don't answer that

[worgeordie]

Yes I have, was overcharged for an item in Big C once,

does that count ?

regards worgeordie

[Artisi]

20 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

As in the words of a Judge I just knew you were going to say that. 

Einstein has a lower IQ than me. 

His IQ might have been lower  but I would bet he was a lot smarter ?

[terryofcrete]

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Re money 'disappearing'. A very similar thing happened with my best friend, and he ended up dead. He noticed money vanishing from an account he held and suspected that his wife was making secret withdrawals, using his card when he was sleeping. He told her that he was going to his bank, which required a trip from Roi Et to Bangkok, to check through things with them, and a day or two later he mysteriously got food poisoning.

He was hospitalised, but was eventually allowed home - where he soon mysteriously 'fell' down the stairs. Back to the hospital where he developed complications and died soon after. Before he died I asked if they could check for any poisons in his system and they lied and said they already had (not routine procedure I'm sure, so I'm sure they lied). His wife rarely visited him in hospital, and soon after he died she linked up with a 'former' boyfriend.

OMG. Really ? 

[Bangkok Barry]

 

We'll never really know what happened. I just have deep suspicions. I should have mentioned that it wasn't the usual household account from which money was disappearing, but a separate 'rainy day' account.

I would also add that he was in his early seventies and she was an ex-dancer from Rawhide in Cowboy. In fact, he claims to have suggested the name to the owners. Despite her 'origin', they had been married a very long time, nearly 20 years I think.

[JOC]

2 hours ago, Mac98 said:

I carry a decoy wallet in my back pocket. It was lifted at an ATM in a CM mall.

 

[wwest5829]

7 years, neither violent nor non-violent experiences like I read here.

[Mario666]

2 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Does bad advice from an I F A count as non- violent crime. If so, YES.

Was it about relocating your pension per chance?

[Mario666]

10 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

7 years, neither violent nor non-violent experiences like I read here.

Congrats mate...where do you live...I fancy some peace?