Farang pays 10 million baht to marry Thai boyfriend! But it's all about love!

[Myran]

52 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

if one is to honor the thai tradition of sinsaut (dowry)  you base the amount on the level of education, achievement, virginity, status and family pedigree on the thai side. 

 

thus the thai guy would need some decent credentials to warrant 10 million baht yet the story makes no mention of his background.

 

i personally would not be interested in paying sinsaut but for those who are and want to follow that thai tradition they should follow it i its entirety. does the thai guy have a masters or d PhD etc etc?

I am well aware of what sinsod is. You forgot the part about it being paid to the family of the bride, though, which is not the case here. Hence it's not about tradition, but about money.

[somtamjames]

10 million baht. OMG !! And he might get a few nights with the boy.

 

    Happy family, excluding the farang who doesn't understand what he did. 

[Nickiboy03]

Both are mentally ill.... this is not an attack on them it's just what it is...

[BangkokBaksida]

According to Thai custom, when a man marries a woman, the man pays the dowry.  So who should pay the dowry when a man marries a man?  Why the farang, of course.  Ha.

[atyclb]

2 hours ago, Myran said:

I am well aware of what sinsod is. You forgot the part about it being paid to the family of the bride, though, which is not the case here. Hence it's not about tradition, but about money.

 

paid to the family or to the bride/husband is not the point i made. the point i made is the amount pertains to the guys credentials, education, achievements, background, of which the story mentions nothing of.

 

if you follow tradition and marry a 30 year old rice farmer with 3 kids and maybe finished high school the sinsaud will not be the same as that for a 30 year old never wed, no children thai with a PhD from Harvard.

[atyclb]

10 hours ago, Nickiboy03 said:

Both are mentally ill.... this is not an attack on them it's just what it is...

 

 

sexual preference is not mental illness.

 

mental illness or  perhaps at the very least confusion may be the rationale behind 10 million baht.

[faranggl]

I would like to see one of these sin sod givers present tne recievers with a certificate of a large donation , made in the name of the brides family to the local temple.  Big face for the family and fewer money for sex accusations.  Win win.

 

 

[Fish Head Soup]

On 5/5/2018 at 4:51 AM, SABloke said:

Slightly off topic: Does anyone know of a farang woman receiving sinsod? I know 4 foreign women married to Thai guys, but none of them asked for/received anything. I'm just wondering that if it is such a "part of the culture" why didn't the grooms' families insist on it? (Even just as a symbolic gesture and then the couples could've returned the money later.)

In most cases it would be down to socio-economics but I'm sure you're already aware of that if you have spent more than a few days in the kingdom.

[SABloke]

6 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

In most cases it would be down to socio-economics but I'm sure you're already aware of that if you have spent more than a few days in the kingdom.

Yes, because all westerners are richer than Thais.  I have spent way more than a few days in the kingdom and usually Sin-Sod is arranged between parents and is a symbolic gesture. And you're right it is about socio-economic issues in that the groom generally pays what is proportional to his wealth, so some people pay 10,000 Baht, other people 10,000,000 Baht. (The "million baht dowries" seem to be more prevalent when Thais marry Thais - you know, socio-economics and all )

 

Starky's response might be closer to the truth in that it's up to the bride's family, not the groom's. That might only be regional though, because in my experience both sets of parents get together and have a chat about all details of the wedding, including the Sin-Sod. And yes, western parents are generally out of the country, but if they do fly over for the wedding and are expected to partake in a "traditional Thai ceremony" then all aspects of the ceremony should be respected. 

[Scouse123]

11 hours ago, faranggl said:

I would like to see one of these sin sod givers present tne recievers with a certificate of a large donation , made in the name of the brides family to the local temple.  Big face for the family and fewer money for sex accusations.  Win win.

 

 

 

Win-win?

 

What about all the proven allegations of misappropriation of temple funds by leading abbots and monks who steal the funds to pursue glamorous lifestyles? These are also not isolated incidents.

 

I cannot see the temples benefitting very much from your idea.

 

[Scouse123]

I think the whole sin sod thing is blown up out of proportion and many TV members have neither been asked for nor donated to, any form of sin sod, I know I wasn't and didn't. Mind you, I never married in either the traditional western or Thai way. As a ' lapsed Catholic ' I would be classed as ' living in sin '

 

I did agree, that further down the line, after building our house, I would do a smaller one for the mother and grandkids, which I eventually did. The odd occasion it was mentioned by the father asking when it would be built, I reminded him he had had fifty years to build one. I further reminded him, he had a son who came to visit now and again, driving a Toyota Fortuner, if they were so concerned for the mother, they could sell that and build a house.

 

The whole wedding culture up in the villages, seems a bit like the big fancy Catholic wedding ceremonies in the West where they had the big church weddings with organ music, the bride and bridesmaids dresses, ushers and Page boys etc then a huge wedding reception followed by the happy couple disappearing off into the mist on their honeymoon in a waiting Rolls Royce. It used to cost a fortune, and the bride and groom and parents spent ages after clearing the debt. All this is considered old-fashioned and silly and a waste of money that can be put to better use.

 

The above is nice if you can afford it, but with pressures and the expense of modern living,  (the cost of houses for a start), many western couples have abandoned the church wedding for the register office and the fancy wedding feast for an intimate dinner with close family, and the big honeymoon replaced by buying furniture for the new house or paying down a deposit for a house, which seems more sensible.

[Fish Head Soup]

6 hours ago, SABloke said:

Yes, because all westerners are richer than Thais.  I have spent way more than a few days in the kingdom and usually Sin-Sod is arranged between parents and is a symbolic gesture. And you're right it is about socio-economic issues in that the groom generally pays what is proportional to his wealth, so some people pay 10,000 Baht, other people 10,000,000 Baht. (The "million baht dowries" seem to be more prevalent when Thais marry Thais - you know, socio-economics and all )

 

Starky's response might be closer to the truth in that it's up to the bride's family, not the groom's. That might only be regional though, because in my experience both sets of parents get together and have a chat about all details of the wedding, including the Sin-Sod. And yes, western parents are generally out of the country, but if they do fly over for the wedding and are expected to partake in a "traditional Thai ceremony" then all aspects of the ceremony should be respected. 

Their is almost always (note *almost) a large financial discrepancy between the Thai side and Western side when it comes to a Thai-Farang union. When I married my Thai wife I did not pay, nor was I asked for sinsod, she had no children and had never been married before. It all comes down to personal relationships and choice. If a sinsod appears to be one of the most important factors then I would advise anyone to run a mile no matter it were affordable or not.

 

As for the OP and people getting so excited about the size of the sinsod, 10 million baht may be nothing to this guy, maybe he spends more than that on flowers for his house every year.

 

It's all relative.

[anon789561]

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I think the whole sin sod thing is blown up out of proportion and many TV members have neither been asked for nor donated to, any form of sin sod, I know I wasn't and didn't. Mind you, I never married in either the traditional western or Thai way. As a ' lapsed Catholic ' I would be classed as ' living in sin '

 

I did agree, that further down the line, after building our house, I would do a smaller one for the mother and grandkids, which I eventually did. The odd occasion it was mentioned by the father asking when it would be built, I reminded him he had had fifty years to build one. I further reminded him, he had a son who came to visit now and again, driving a Toyota Fortuner, if they were so concerned for the mother, they could sell that and build a house.

 

The whole wedding culture up in the villages, seems a bit like the big fancy Catholic wedding ceremonies in the West where they had the big church weddings with organ music, the bride and bridesmaids dresses, ushers and Page boys etc then a huge wedding reception followed by the happy couple disappearing off into the mist on their honeymoon in a waiting Rolls Royce. It used to cost a fortune, and the bride and groom and parents spent ages after clearing the debt. All this is considered old-fashioned and silly and a waste of money that can be put to better use.

 

The above is nice if you can afford it, but with pressures and the expense of modern living,  (the cost of houses for a start), many western couples have abandoned the church wedding for the register office and the fancy wedding feast for an intimate dinner with close family, and the big honeymoon replaced by buying furniture for the new house or paying down a deposit for a house, which seems more sensible.

i disagree. some may have to take time paying it off and some don't. it's still nice to have a traditional wedding for many people. i got married 3 times. 1st registry office. small affair, then big catholic wedding (to keep my mum happy), then over here to keep the mrs family happy. we walked away up money wise. i've mentioned this before. not really sure how it all works in the north east but i think it's often depends on your relationships etc

[Scouse123]

9 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

i disagree. some may have to take time paying it off and some don't. it's still nice to have a traditional wedding for many people. i got married 3 times. 1st registry office. small affair, then big catholic wedding (to keep my mum happy), then over here to keep the mrs family happy. we walked away up money wise. i've mentioned this before. not really sure how it all works in the north east but i think it's often depends on your relationships etc

Yes,

 

But I already said ' It's nice if you can afford it '   Many in the UK used to get their marriage off on the wrong foot by big fancy weddings to please others.

 

That seems to be changing and not the norm these days, with people choosing affordable ceremonies. No point having a big bash then being miserable for months afterward.

Edited May 7, 2018 by Scouse123

[anon789561]

1 minute ago, Scouse123 said:

Yes,

 

But I

yes?

[aboctok]

On 05/05/2018 at 12:04 PM, geriatrickid said:

Just as the chap can do as he wishes, so can the world exposed to this.  We are allowed to laugh at the poor choice and to guffaw and to smirk at his spectacle of loserdom.

Spectacle of loserdom, lmao. Here, have a Like.

Edited May 11, 2018 by aboctok

[tukkytuktuk]

On 05/05/2018 at 12:42 PM, Expatthailover said:

Oh no shock horror an old man takes a very much younger bride/husband and showers him/her with money.

Good job it only happens in thailand and nowhere else in the world

It's happened again. This time in Nakon Sawan. A man called Alister Breedee, 66 years old from Ireland married a 31 year old Thai man. So it's time to pop the Champagne corks and make a toast to the happy couple.

[Stargeezr]

Marriage is something that has to be worked at every day. Love is the battlefield.

 If these two and the families make it 2 years, I will be so surprised. 

  At least with all the money, maybe less chance for depression and suicide.

Joy, Joy!

Geezer

[Wilsonandson]

It's happened again. This time in Nakon Sawan. A man called Alister Breedee, 66 years old from Ireland married a 31 year old Thai man. So it's time to pop the Champagne corks and make a toast to the happy couple.

Ow, don't they make a lovely couple. On their honeymoon holiday now I guess. Goodluck to them. I bet there was a few tears at the wedding.

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[keithpa]

On 5/5/2018 at 11:27 AM, Wallander4 said:

A fool and his money will soon part

A bloke that has that much money to give away cant be too much of a fool.Could you afford to give away that much?

[tukkytuktuk]

57 minutes ago, keithpa said:

A bloke that has that much money to give away cant be too much of a fool.Could you afford to give away that much?

Not me but I bet these high profile gay weddings have pricked up the ears of a lot of Thai gay men gold diggers. It's even got me thinking, like in the porn industry they say "Would you go gay for pay?". For 10 million baht, hmm, I'm seriously thinking that one over. As long as the dude you are marrying isn't a nymphomaniac you'd be on a winner.

 

Start checking out the 'blue oyster bar' in your area, find out who the high rollers are! Kerching! $$$$$!

[Dingle 60]

On 05/05/2018 at 10:24 AM, marko kok prong said:

Is this guy nuts?

He likes nuts

 

[chippendale]

3 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:

Ow, don't they make a lovely couple. On their honeymoon holiday now I guess. Goodluck to them. I bet there was a few tears at the wedding.

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No tears if enough lube was included in the dowry.

[Wilsonandson]

No tears if enough lube was included in the dowry.

Yes exactly. I always wondered what happens after 2 men tie the knot. Now a picture has formed in my mind. I have to research this some more so I've downloaded 'Game of Thrones'.

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[Sonhia]

Seems a very high price to pay,.

 

Congratulations to the newlywed couple.

[observer90210]

On further thoughts, perhaps 10 mio was the priceTag for the ladyboy transformation of Mr Thai Missy ?

[idman]

There is a sucker born every minute and this idiot only proves that point.  I have no issue with two people sharing a life together but giving some young Thai Twink 10 million???  That is sheer stupidity even it is drop in the bucket for this sap.

[spidermike007]

He is messing things up for all other foreigners, when it comes to the crazy practice of sin sod. Not a good thing at all. Word gets around. And when earnest men want to marry a woman (which is far more typical!) all bets are off. Women who are in their 30's, who are divorced, and who have a kid (traditionally a woman of the lowest value, according to sin sod valuation charts) is proposed to, she all of a sudden feels her value is far, far more that reality dictates. This kind of precedent is not only unnecessary, many of us would call it foolish and lacking in vision, to put it mildly. 

[Rimmer]

A troll post and several replies have been removed

[Bkkthebest]

On 05/05/2018 at 4:29 PM, barmatt said:

Thats a lot of sperm

Maybe the 10 million baht is counted as 1 sperm for 1 baht. So that is how they come up with the 10 million baht number for the dowry.