Non O Expring, Company Not Ready

[josephbloggs]

HI all,

 

I have lived here on Non-B's and had continuous WPs for 22 years.......until last year.  I now work for a company in Singapore and travel a lot but they allow me to spend time here when not travelling as I have wife and kids.  I got a 12 month multi entry non O (based on marriage) in Singapore last year and it expires on 13th June.

 

I am currently working on a BOI application on my company's behalf as we are setting up a new office here which I will run.  Once we (hopefully) have BOI and a registered entity I will then be employed here and get a Non B and a Work Permit.  But I don't expect this will happen for three months at best as we are only submitting the application some time this month.

 

What's my best option to cover the gap?  Is it possible to apply for a non B based on "exploring a business opportunity" without having a company here yet?  I'm thinking if I can get a three month multi entry non B it should cover me until we have a business registered then I can do an extension and WP.  I am travelling to the UK (I am English) on the 13th June so timing wise if I could apply for one from there it would be perfect.  But don't know if this is possible.  I don't really want to do another non-O as I will be spending time here doing the application, interviews and refitting a building etc. and travelling less.  I certainly don't want to do any visa exempts.  Just don't know what's best.

 

Any advice gratefully received.

Edited May 9, 2018 by josephbloggs
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[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I got a 12 month multi entry non O (based on marriage) in Singapore last year and it expires on 13th June.

When does your current 90 day entry end from your visa end? You could get a re-entry permit to keep that entry valid when you make your trip. 

Or you could apply for a single or multiple entry non-o visa based upon at the embassy in London while in the UK.

You can get a work permit and work with a non-o visa based upon marriage.

You will find it difficult to get a non-b visa without a work permit application approval letter.

[josephbloggs]

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

When does your current 90 day entry end from your visa end? You could get a re-entry permit to keep that entry valid when you make your trip. 

Or you could apply for a single or multiple entry non-o visa based upon at the embassy in London while in the UK.

You can get a work permit and work with a non-o visa based upon marriage.

You will find it difficult to get a non-b visa without a work permit application approval letter.

Hi Ubon Joe,

 

Thanks for the quick reply.  I'm going to be away next week and back on the 17th so I'll get another 90 days from then.  I may have one other trip just before the UK which would give me almost another full 90 days after the UK but not sure yet.  So I'd be able to get a re-entry permit at the airport and maintain what's left of the 90 days?

 

I didn't know you could get a WP on a Non-O, that's interesting.  My money and my income is now in Singapore so may be better to apply there rather than London?

 

And sorry for the questions, but if I go for another non-O would you recommend switching to a non B when the company is established or does it not matter?  Only when I have had non B's in the past they've always been 12 or 24 month with no requirement to leave, only do 90 day reports.  But with the non O I only get 90 day entries each time.  Is it possible to get a multi entry non-O that gives you a year at a time without the 90 day entry restriction?

 

Thanks again for your help.

[ubonjoe]

11 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Thanks for the quick reply.  I'm going to be away next week and back on the 17th so I'll get another 90 days from then.  I may have one other trip just before the UK which would give me almost another full 90 days after the UK but not sure yet.  So I'd be able to get a re-entry permit at the airport and maintain what's left of the 90 days?

Yes you can.

 

12 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

didn't know you could get a WP on a Non-O, that's interesting.  My money and my income is now in Singapore so may be better to apply there rather than London?

You can get a work permit with a non-o or extension of stay based upon marriage to a Thai.

If you will be working for a BOI company immigration may change it to a non-b visa and extension of stay based upon working.

The embassy in London does not ask for financial proof to get a non-o visa.

18 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Only when I have had non B's in the past they've always been 12 or 24 month with no requirement to leave, only do 90 day reports.  But with the non O I only get 90 day entries each time.  Is it possible to get a multi entry non-O that gives you a year at a time without the 90 day entry restriction?

You were getting extensions of stay based upon working. A non-b visa only allows a 90 day entry each time.

You can get one year extensions of stay based upon marriage. Then do 90 day reports.

[josephbloggs]

All makes perfect sense.  Thanks again.

[josephbloggs]

On 5/9/2018 at 10:00 AM, ubonjoe said:

Yes you can.

 

You can get a work permit with a non-o or extension of stay based upon marriage to a Thai.

If you will be working for a BOI company immigration may change it to a non-b visa and extension of stay based upon working.

The embassy in London does not ask for financial proof to get a non-o visa.

You were getting extensions of stay based upon working. A non-b visa only allows a 90 day entry each time.

You can get one year extensions of stay based upon marriage. Then do 90 day reports.

Hi Ubon Joe,

 

So just before my one year on my non-O was up I made a trip to Singapore, came back and got a 90 day stamp thereby giving me close to 15 months use from the visa.  We just got awarded BOI and are registering the company here next week but my permission to stay expires on 4th September - Tuesday next week.  Am I right to think I can still get a 60 day extension?  If so is doing it on Monday (the day before I expire) ok?

 

If I can get another 60 days that will tie me over until our company is registered and I can then change to a non B based on employment and a WP.

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Am I right to think I can still get a 60 day extension?  If so is doing it on Monday (the day before I expire) ok?

 

If I can get another 60 days that will tie me over until our company is registered and I can then change to a non B based on employment and a WP.

No problem to get the 60 day extension.

You could apply for the 60 day extension today, tomorrow, Monday or Tuesday.

 

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

No problem to get the 60 day extension.

You could apply for the 60 day extension today, tomorrow, Monday or Tuesday.

 

Great, thanks for the quick reply.  Having never done this in all my 23 years of living here, do I just go to Chaeng Wattana and ask about an extension?  Do I need to prepare anything in advance like photos or anything?

 

Thanks again for your help.

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Great, thanks for the quick reply.  Having never done this in all my 23 years of living here, do I just go to Chaeng Wattana and ask about an extension?  Do I need to prepare anything in advance like photos or anything?

You wife will need to be with you when you apply.

Your marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card.

A completed TM7 form with a 4 X 6 photo attached. Copies of your passport photo page, visa, entry stamp and TM6 departure card.

[josephbloggs]

36 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You wife will need to be with you when you apply.

Your marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card.

A completed TM7 form with a 4 X 6 photo attached. Copies of your passport photo page, visa, entry stamp and TM6 departure card.

Oh wow, good job I asked! Tremendous - thank you! 

[josephbloggs]

18 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You wife will need to be with you when you apply.

Your marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card.

A completed TM7 form with a 4 X 6 photo attached. Copies of your passport photo page, visa, entry stamp and TM6 departure card.

And sorry, one more question.  "Reasons of Extension" - as this is a non O based on marriage should I put "Family"?

[ubonjoe]

28 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

And sorry, one more question.  "Reasons of Extension" - as this is a non O based on marriage should I put "Family"?

 To visit my Thai wife would be good.

[josephbloggs]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

 To visit my Thai wife would be good.

Thank you.