oldhippy Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, Justfine said: Lying is a human trait. Westerners are very good at it. At least, farangs put a little effort into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, oldhippy said: At least, farangs put a little effort into it. Yes more creative bs artists. Pubs in the west are choc full of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Justfine said: Yes more creative bs artists. Pubs in the west are choc full of them. I wouldn't know. I seldom go to pubs. Not in Farangland, and surely not in Thailand. In 12 half years, maybe 12 times in Thailand. But you are no doubt an expert about pubs? Otherwise you would not make such a sweeping statement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 OP, maybe they are not lying and you are handsome, slim and good looking. What are the lies you are being told by every Thai ? Is it the prices in shops, the chilli content of food, what time the bus comes, its not going to rain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Shop assistants would rather lie than admit if they do not know answer. Lot of people like that in thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted June 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2018 How much of the perception you are being lied to comes down to someone just not understanding the question. If I ask the guy in the hardware, that doesn't speak English, "is this a metric spanner ?" and he nods yes, I would take that as he maybe didn't understand the question. I may even ask another question just to be sure, "Is this spanner a housebrick?", another nod and I know he didn't understand me, and not telling lies so I buy the imperial spanner. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: Shop assistants would rather lie than admit if they do not know answer. Lot of people like that in thailand. Let me guess ..... you asked a Thai shop assistant for something in a foreign language, and out of politeness and embarrassment she said "don't have" and you felt all hurt and lied to? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 9 hours ago, sipi said: The Thais I know are blatantly honest. Especially compared to some westerners I have met. yep, i agree. its all relative ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Let me guess ..... you asked a Thai shop assistant for something in a foreign language, and out of politeness and embarrassment she said "don't have" and you felt all hurt and lied to? Bad guess, very bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, oldhippy said: I wouldn't know. I seldom go to pubs. Not in Farangland, and surely not in Thailand. In 12 half years, maybe 12 times in Thailand. But you are no doubt an expert about pubs? Otherwise you would not make such a sweeping statement? Well I have lived. Maybe you should get out and talk to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Rc2702 said: Shop assistants would rather lie than admit if they do not know answer. Lot of people like that in thailand. Give an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rc2702 Posted June 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Justfine said: Give an example I was going to anyway. Customs broker once tried to say that my wife was lying to me and they never scheduled for goods to be delivered. Was looking at the email confirming delivery on a specific date from them when the person told me this. Even after I drew their attention to the email they continued to lie. Samsung repair technician told my wife the UK Samsung phone could not be fixed there. Walked over asked for the manager asked if spoke English. Explained my requirement. Collected next day repaired. AXA krung thai office/agent in kalasin quoted 15550 for the exact same package as on AXA website. They insisted their package was superior hence the price. Let them try to dig deeper as they went through the Thai brochure showing the superiority pulled out printed version of the same brochure and asked if it was exactly the same. They then honoured the AXA online price. Koh samet- speed boat return ticket. Confirmed we just call them and arrange return. They never answered and we found amother couple suffering the same fate. Small place samet. Shop assistants would rather say mai mee than actually help to find something from my experience in food stores like big C. The list is endless. Edited June 15, 2018 by Rc2702 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: Bad guess, very bad. But your list of examples suggests I was right on the money (Big C)? You wouldn't be lying to save face would you? Perhaps you need to learn Thai? Edited June 15, 2018 by Kinnock 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kinnock said: But your list of examples suggests I was right on the money (Big C)? You wouldn't be lying to save face would you? Perhaps you need to learn Thai? This guy is seriously thinking in 1 dimension. Because no one accompanies me that speaks thai 100% when we go shopping do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMeAmes Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I was once led to a whole different direction when I asked some Thais how to get a certain street. (I asked in Thai, they answered in Thai too, and I understood simple directions like straight and turn left). After walking for 15 minutes and couldn't find it, I asked a white girl whether she lived around that area and could help me. She turned out to be a tourist and showed me her map (at that time Google maps wasn't as reliable as today). The place I was looking for was in the opposite direction of what the Thais told me and I had to walk all the way back to where I met them. This whole telling you lies just because they won't say "I don"t know" is really annoying. They would rather lead some poor lost girl to a whole other place than where she wanted to go... (those were Thai men I asked... middle-aged). I now never trust any information I get from Thais who I'm not familiar with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Justfine said: Well I have lived. Maybe you should get out and talk to people. I don't live in bars. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Justfine said: Give an example About 100% of shop assistents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 hours ago, oldhippy said: I don't live in bars. Nor do I. Rarely go to them. Surely you aren't 12yo and know what goes on in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Over the past few decades there have been several opinion polls* on the issues of lying, corruption and general dishonesty and criminal behaviour, and the one constant in all of them was that between two-thirds and three-quarters of those people polled approved, especially if it benefited them. So if you say the majority of Thais tell lies, then there has to be some grain of truth to it, don't you think? BTW, post #42 is quite familiar. If other posters say these examples have not happened to them, then I'd suggest they are .... wait for it .... LYING. LOL *I can't recall the last time such a poll was conducted, but the general results have stuck with me over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hummin Posted June 15, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2018 I know about greengjai, and I have experienced it several times in different situations. For those of you who never experienced Thai lies, you either live a boring life and never expose yourselves to the "truth" or you are totally blindfolded by the Amazing Thailand. Yes, Amazing Thailand, and all the other is Thai bashers and hate Thailand. First of all, I do not hate Thailand or Thai, and I manage living with it, and do not get upset by it, but it truly amazes me every time I catch someone lying to me, and I know they do. Plausible explanation. https://www.shamakern.com/the-truth-in-thailand-2/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckThai Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Justfine said: Where is here? I was referring to LOS... Edited June 16, 2018 by CanuckThai penmanship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 minute ago, CanuckThai said: LOS.... Where is los? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I like the response I sometimes get from my wife "When I know, you can know" Doesn't come more honest than that ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrya Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 6:39 AM, sipi said: The Thais I know are blatantly honest. Especially compared to some westerners I have met. ? Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrya Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 6:39 AM, sipi said: The Thais I know are blatantly honest. Especially compared to some westerners I have met. I am totally speachless and astounded after reading some of the commenters telling that they had only meet honest Thais etc. Oh my ... I told this to my wife and she immediately burst into laugh... She is a Thai woman by the way. Well, learn Thai, speak Thai, read Thai and interact on a daily basis. Let's see the honesty LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 According to the apologists, Thai culture is subtle and avoids embarrassment or hurting feelings. How does that fit in with the student massacre of the seventies, the red / yellow shirt violence, the treatment of recruits, the hiso slapping a security employee at BKK, etc? Exceptions that confirm the rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidwtr Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Since coming to Thailand five years ago I've had such an eye opening experience of seeing how contrasting the Thai culture/people and Buddhism are. I always assumed that a majority of Thais would be practicing Buddhists and boy was this a big assumption. Just my round about way of saying that I have meet my far share of Thais that lie regardless of how big or small the lie is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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