More migrants dying from heat on U.S.-Mexico border - patrol agency

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More migrants dying from heat on U.S.-Mexico border - patrol agency

 

FILE PHOTO: A memorial is seen in the desert near Falfurrias, Texas April 2, 2013. REUTERS/Eric Thayer/File Photo

 

(Reuters) - The number of migrants dying from extreme heat on the U.S.-Mexico border rose 55 percent in the last nine months after an increase in unaccompanied children and families trying to enter the United States illegally, the U.S. government said on Monday.

 

Heat-related deaths, the main cause of migrant fatalities on the U.S. southwest border, rose to 48, up from 31 over the same period in 2017, said U.S. Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Salvador Zamora.

 

The death toll is expected to rise in the triple-digit heat of summer months as vulnerable, unacclimatised immigrants attempt to cross harsh environments, putting border fatalities on track for a year-on-year increase in 2018, Zamora said.

 

The Border Patrol recorded a 12 percent year-on-year rise in immigrant arrests in the eight months to May 31, Zamora said.

 

"We are geared up to surpass last year's heat-related deaths and the summer is just beginning," he said in a telephone interview. "The demographics of the illegal aliens we are apprehending, the family units, the unaccompanied children, they're a lot more vulnerable."

 

Humanitarian groups such as San Diego, California-based Border Angels say the main cause of rising deaths is tighter border security and law enforcement, such as the recent imposition of a "zero tolerance" policy for illegal border crossers. This has prompted migrants to make long treks through hostile terrain via remote crossing points.

 

"We've seen people crossing in more dangerous areas, so even though there's less people crossing there are more people dying," said Enrique Morones, founder of the group whose volunteers leave water for migrants.

 

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Until four years ago, the vast majority of migrants arrested at the border were Mexicans. With improved economic conditions in Mexico, their number has fallen, as have overall arrests on the border, which dropped to 303,916 in 2017, down 26 percent from 2016, according to Border Patrol data.

 

Immigrants from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador now top the list of people arrested at the southern border as gun and gang-related violence drives an exodus from those countries, according to U.S. government data.

 

As the number of arrests on the border have fallen, the United Nations International Organization for Migration has recorded a rise in migrant deaths for the last four years, with the total reaching 415 in 2017.

 

Immigrants, including children, from sub-tropical and mountainous areas are arriving at the border poorly nourished, unacclimatised to arid conditions and susceptible to heat-exhaustion, Zamora said.

 

Families apprehended at the border increased five-fold since 2013 while the number of unaccompanied children detained in 2017 was almost double that in 2010, according to Border Patrol data.

 

Morones at Border Angels suspects patrol agents of destroying water supplies the group drops off for migrants in the desert. One such act was caught on video in Arizona by another humanitarian group called No More Deaths.

 

Border patrol spokesman Zamora said actions shown in the No More Deaths video were "unacceptable" and in no way representative of the agency's values. The agency conducts its own humanitarian rescues, which rose slightly to 748 people in the eight months through May, he said.

 

(Reporting By Andrew Hay in Taos, New Mexico; Editing by Bill Tarrant and Cynthia Osterman)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-06-26

[Chomper Higgot]

Cause and effect:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-border-patrol-mexico-water-bottles-video-migrants-kick-over-video-illegals-mexicans-hispanics-a8165591.html

[HLover]

Curious what Mexico does with Americans living illegally in their country or crossing their borders?

 

Is a child born there automatically a Mexican citizen?

 

 

[bristolboy]

27 minutes ago, HLover said:

Curious what Mexico does with Americans living illegally in their country or crossing their borders?

 

Is a child born there automatically a Mexican citizen?

 

 

"Curious what Mexico does with Americans living illegally in their country or crossing their borders?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_Mexico

 

"Is a child born there automatically a Mexican citizen?"

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_nationality_law

[Get Real]

And what should the world or USA do about this? Should they offer humanitarian aid so they can continue run until caught?
I say, It´s better to concentrate on the lawful abining citizen in need of help instead of illegals.

If they feel the need to sun in the sun. Let ém burn.

[bristolboy]

3 hours ago, HLover said:

Curious what Mexico does with Americans living illegally in their country or crossing their borders?

 

Is a child born there automatically a Mexican citizen?

 

 

 

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

"Curious what Mexico does with Americans living illegally in their country or crossing their borders?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_Mexico

 

"Is a child born there automatically a Mexican citizen?"

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_nationality_law

Was your curiosity satisfied?

[Sir Dude]

The US (or the EU) simply cannot have an open boarder policy and take in any hard luck case no matter how many turn up...just not sustainable. Some migration is needed and good for a country but it needs to be the right type of immigration of people that have things to offer, work, pay taxes, integrate and have a positive overall effect on the host country. Most of these people are not refugees, but economic migrants and we all know what the wrong type of immigration is as we see it all the time, even here in Thailand. Usually, you are a refugee if you are fleeing state sponsored persecution not domestic violence or street gangs etc. All countries reserve the right to police their borders as they see fit...it's called sovereignty. The US and European countries have sacrificed much and millions of lives over the last century to have such societies and countries, perhaps all these migrants (sorry, fit, young, military aged men in most cases) et al should have some guts and stay to sort out their own countries instead of fleeing. The welcome in the western countries is becoming more chilly all the time and it won't be long before everywhere does the Aussie model as much of the goodwill is being used up. This issue is going to have much bearing on how things pan-out in the future and who is elected to power and it's not going to appeal to the softy snowflakes much.

[bristolboy]

21 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

The US (or the EU) simply cannot have an open boarder policy and take in any hard luck case no matter how many turn up...just not sustainable. Some migration is needed and good for a country but it needs to be the right type of immigration of people that have things to offer, work, pay taxes, integrate and have a positive overall effect on the host country. Most of these people are not refugees, but economic migrants and we all know what the wrong type of immigration is as we see it all the time, even here in Thailand. Usually, you are a refugee if you are fleeing state sponsored persecution not domestic violence or street gangs etc. All countries reserve the right to police their borders as they see fit...it's called sovereignty. The US and European countries have sacrificed much and millions of lives over the last century to have such societies and countries, perhaps all these migrants (sorry, fit, young, military aged men in most cases) et al should have some guts and stay to sort out their own countries instead of fleeing. The welcome in the western countries is becoming more chilly all the time and it won't be long before everywhere does the Aussie model as much of the goodwill is being used up. This issue is going to have much bearing on how things pan-out in the future and who is elected to power and it's not going to appeal to the softy snowflakes much.

I wasn't aware the the USA had an open border policy? Got evidence for that? I think I see your straw man running away.

[Juan B Tong]

Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi to approve border fence with the provision that it be conditioned on the Mexican side.

[DM07]

...and they all do that, just to take away one of those highly paid orange- plucking jobs away from an eager 'Murican!

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Get Real said:

And what should the world or USA do about this? Should they offer humanitarian aid so they can continue run until caught?
I say, It´s better to concentrate on the lawful abining citizen in need of help instead of illegals.

If they feel the need to sun in the sun. Let ém burn.

Why is it always a Trump supporter that presents the misanthropic point of view?

[55Jay]

Tough nut to crack, they have to carry their own water, typically (2) 1 gallon plastic containers = 16 lbs dead weight when full, along with whatever else they're packing.  There's some unforgiving territory out there, large swaths without much natural cover in the heat of the day.   

The Sinaloa cartel has runners who carry water, car batteries and food in and stash it at lay up sites for the drug mules running the gauntlet up to the I-8 near Tuscon.  I was out there in February this year, beautiful country but sure is a lot of dark stuff going on.   If you've got Netflix, check out "Dope", season 1 Episode 3.

[Get Real]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why is it always a Trump supporter that presents the misanthropic point of view?

How can you call me a Trump supporter? Are you out of your mind. Read my earlier posts, and you will find out how wrong you are.

Basically means that you can start again. Everything you said were wrong. Better luck next time. 

[bristolboy]

4 minutes ago, Get Real said:

How can you call me a Trump supporter? Are you out of your mind. Read my earlier posts, and you will find out how wrong you are.

Basically means that you can start again. Everything you said were wrong. Better luck next time. 

Yes, how could anybody ever imagine that someone who voiced such a disgusting comment approving of would be illegal immigrant dying a horrible death would be a Trump supporter? I mean, what are the odds?

[DefaultName]

Well, I think it's terrible that the Trump administration forces these people to walk for many miles in extreme heat simply to illegally enter a country that doesn't want them.

 

What?  You mean Trump isn't forcing them?  They're actually trying to commit a crime and die during that?

 

OK, sympathy deficit here.

 

 

 

Good luck with the wall, the UK has a ditch and even that doesn't stop them.  I foresee a huge ladder industry in Mexico once the wall goes up.

[Get Real]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Yes, how could anybody ever imagine that someone who voiced such a disgusting comment approving of would be illegal immigrant dying a horrible death would be a Trump supporter? I mean, what are the odds?

With that kind of comment. Yeah, I would say. Just not on your side, boy! 

But that was hurtfully obvious, wasn´t it?

[bristolboy]

14 minutes ago, Get Real said:

With that kind of comment. Yeah, I would say. Just not on your side, boy! 

But that was hurtfully obvious, wasn´t it?

What you wrote was like approving of chopping someone's arm off for shoplifting but worse

Edited June 26, 2018 by bristolboy

[Get Real]

6 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

What you wrote was like approving of chopping someone's arm off for shoplifting but worse

Nope, It was not. When an arm get chopped off, the punished person is not doing that the him/herself. Here they are running out in the sun killing themself. If nothing else, just consider it like suicide.

When you take the train back to reality, we can have another conversation. Seems like a long way, though. Should we say 2020, to be sure to make it?

Edited June 26, 2018 by Get Real

[Sir Dude]

Don't feed the trolls

 

[jvs]

@ Get real,yes you are indeed.

 

[Scott]

Posts and replies removed for trolling, being off-topic and other reasons.

[taipan1949]

What I want to know is where the f....k do they get the money to get from Central America to the US Border????? I can tell you personally that I paid for a Cuban to get from Guiana to the US Border when the "wet feet, dry feet" law was in place and it cost me THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. The coyotes are not cheap and neither is transportation, do fools think they walk all the way??? Some ba..tard NGO is paying them and supporting them to undermine the USA.

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, taipan1949 said:

What I want to know is where the f....k do they get the money to get from Central America to the US Border????? I can tell you personally that I paid for a Cuban to get from Guiana to the US Border when the "wet feet, dry feet" law was in place and it cost me THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. The coyotes are not cheap and neither is transportation, do fools think they walk all the way??? Some ba..tard NGO is paying them and supporting them to undermine the USA.

What you mean people wanting to work are undermining the USA?

[taipan1949]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What you mean people wanting to work are undermining the USA?

Check your facts. Illegals cost the US billions of dollars every year.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, taipan1949 said:

Check your facts. Illegals cost the US billions of dollars every year.

Hogwash.

 

The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes.

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17229018/undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes

 

 

And that’s just the tax contribution, it does not include the contribution of their labour.

 

[bristolboy]

5 hours ago, taipan1949 said:

Check your facts. Illegals cost the US billions of dollars every year.

Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees

 

Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

The draft report, which was obtained by The New York Times, contradicts a central argument made by advocates of deep cuts in refugee totals as President Trump faces an Oct. 1 deadline to decide on an allowable number. The issue has sparked intense debate within his administration as opponents of the program, led by Mr. Trump’s chief policy adviser, Stephen Miller, assert that continuing to welcome refugees is too costly and raises concerns about terrorism.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html

[HLover]

On 6/25/2018 at 11:52 PM, bristolboy said:

 

Was your curiosity satisfied?

Yes,  thank you.  It seems they have a very reasonable system of immigration there.