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Protect your people, Britain's May urges EU leaders

By Elizabeth Piper

 

Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May attends an European Union leaders summit in Brussels, Belgium, June 28, 2018. REUTERS/Francois Lenoir

 

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Prime Minister Theresa May urged the European Union on Thursday to consider Europe's safety before cutting Britain adrift from its security architecture, as she sought to push Brexit talks forward to address future ties.

 

At an EU summit focussed more on a crisis over migration than Brexit, May came under pressure to move on with the all-but-stalled talks and consider softening some of her "red lines" to prevent Britain from crashing out of the bloc without a deal.

 

She has hesitated to spell out detailed plans for Britain's departure from the EU because of divisions in her ruling Conservative Party and government over the terms of Britain's biggest foreign policy shift in almost half a century.

 

But in an attempt to get some control back over the talks, May used a dinner with EU leaders to underline Britain's role in keeping Europe safe, sharing information freely to solve serious crimes and prevent militant attacks.

 

"Our ability to do so is being put at risk," May told other EU leaders, according to a senior UK government official.

 

"The existing legal frameworks for third countries will not allow us to realise the ambitious future security partnership that I believe is in all our interests ... That is not what I want and I do not believe it is what you want either."

 

With only nine months before Britain leaves the EU, May is under increasing pressure in Brussels not only to come up with ways to settle a divorce agreement, including a proposal for a new border on the island of Ireland, but also to detail her vision for future ties once outside the bloc.

 

Earlier, EU leaders were blunt in their assessment of progress so far, and called on May to soften her red lines such as leaving the bloc's customs union, which has complicated a desire for no return to a hard border between Northern Ireland and EU member Ireland that could stir sectarian tensions.

 

"We did expect that we would make more progress, or any progress, at this summit in June ... There hasn't been," Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar told reporters before meeting May discuss the border.

 

MAY PLAYS STRONGEST CARD

May has promised to resolve differences among her top team of ministers at a meeting early next month and intends to present a policy document setting out the government's aims for a future partnership after that.

 

Her government's indecision has prompted several large companies in Britain to warn the government that a disorderly Brexit could put thousands of jobs at risk, and for the EU to repeatedly say time is running out to secure an agreement by October to give countries time to ratify the deal.

 

She has so far stuck to what the EU called her "red lines" - to leave the bloc's single market and customs union.

 

And while security is seen by British officials as one of the country's strongest cards to play in the talks, another of her pledges - to leave the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice - has made continued cooperation more difficult.

 

The EU says Britain must become a "third country" after Brexit, losing its participation in several of its security data bases which hold intelligence and help track criminals.

 

But May said that would mean no longer being able to share information about wanted people or terrorist networks in Europe.

 

"So when you meet ... tomorrow, I would urge you to consider what is in the best interests of safety of your citizens and mine and give your negotiators a mandate that will allow us to achieve this crucial objective."

 

(Additional reporting by Philip Blenkinsop and Jan Strupczewski; Editing by Kevin Liffey, William Maclean)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-06-29

 

[The Renegade]

Wasting your time.

 

The EU is never going to cut any deal. They simply cannot allow a situation that may well lead to others leaving the block.

 

The Article 50 letter should have included the caveat that the UK leaves the EU on 29 March 2019 and WTO rules apply immediately, if you feel like negotiating something better, you know where we are.

 

You, and the rest of the remainers have played right into the EU's hands.

[The Renegade]

Eureka

 

After a marathon 16 hours session, a statement from the EU.

 

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EU28 leaders have agreed on #euco conclusions incl. migration.

It will only take them about 15 years to reach an agreement on a plan of action to deal with those conclusions.

 

???

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, The Renegade said:

Wasting your time.

 

The EU is never going to cut any deal. They simply cannot allow a situation that may well lead to others leaving the block.

 

The Article 50 letter should have included the caveat that the UK leaves the EU on 29 March 2019 and WTO rules apply immediately, if you feel like negotiating something better, you know where we are.

 

You, and the rest of the remainers have played right into the EU's hands.

 

Even more so now that there are so many cracks appearing in the EU. The "old guard' Merkel, Juncker etc won't like the current growth in other leaders thinking of themselves instead of doing as told and will want to show them there's no nice deals if people want to leave.

 

The way the EU has behaved as actually probably made some borderline leave/remain voters turn against remaining.

 

The biggest issue really, which the politicians avoided and continue to avoid is about the push by some for more and more closer centralized EU control of member states and that this would seriously threaten England, Wales and NI's historic common law system as the EU would almost certainly seek to apply a codified law system which is what most members have. That would have meant either having more opt outs for the UK at some point, very fundamental ones, or the UK leaving as I doubt most UK people would not accept the imposition of a foreign law system.

The EU know that and therefore knew UK likely to leave at some point anyway as British people will never accept autocratic rule from Brussels.

Edited June 29, 2018 by Baerboxer

[Baerboxer]

10 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Eureka

 

After a marathon 16 hours session, a statement from the EU.

 

It will only take them about 15 years to reach an agreement on a plan of action to deal with those conclusions.

 

???

 

Have the Italians agreed to a statement now? Last BBC News I saw this morning said they weren't prepared to sign and were mimicking the EU Brexit negotiators by folding their arms and saying 'nothing has been agreed until it's all been agreed"!

 

 

[The Renegade]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

The biggest issue really,

There are too many issue's within the EU for it anything to be resolved.

 

The €

 

Without the radical change it needs, which will be vetoed, it will fail.

 

Power

 

Where does this lie ? In Brussels or with National Parliaments. Either get rid of Brussels or get rid of National Parliaments, having both is a recipe for disaster.

 

And then you have the complete delusion of some sitting on the EU Gravy train

 

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Guess who helped the rise of Europe’s mini-Trumps? Brexit-poisoned Britain

Guy Verhofstadt

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/28/europe-mini-trump-brexit-britain-viktor-orban

 

Who then goes on to cite Viktor Orban as an example. Totally oblivious to the fact that Orban is now in his 3rd straight term of Power.

[The Renegade]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Have the Italians agreed to a statement now? Last BBC News I saw this morning said they weren't prepared to sign and were mimicking the EU Brexit negotiators by folding their arms and saying 'nothing has been agreed until it's all been agreed"!

 

 

The have only agreed on the '' Common Text '' of the '' Conclusions '' which were pre - written.

 

They have not agreed to any plans to actually solve anything ??

[dick dasterdly]

39 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

The way the EU has behaved as actually probably made some borderline leave/remain voters turn against remaining.

Very true.

 

I was borderline,  and so didn't vote - not being sure  which  was worst - the uk or eu...

 

The eu's  idea  of  'negotiating' ?,  has entirely changed my attitude.

[peterb17]

On this point May is correct , the UK by far has the most sophisticated intelligence services and is a member of the ‘Five Eyes’ - oh well- with no free movement with Europe- maybe the UK will have to go it alone on security matters.

Not the best idea. 

 

 

[nauseus]

Is this our new hangout? ???

[aright]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Is this our new hangout? ???

Yes and it's your round!

[nauseus]

28 minutes ago, aright said:

Yes and it's your round!

You have to wait, remember?

[aright]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You have to wait, remember?

I do. It's likely to be November. I wanted to visit sooner but TM has asked me to go to Brussels to sort a few things out.?

[vogie]

52 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Is this our new hangout? ???

Shhh, you know who might find out. ???

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Is this our new hangout? ???

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Is this our new hangout? ???

?

[Grouse]

I've been looking for Pilgrim everywhere

 

 

[vogie]

Elsie the mystic cat on The Daily Politics Show on BBC2 has predicted that David Davies is doing a better job than Barnier and there will be an hard brexit.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

 

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The eagle grouse has landed. Perhaps as the pathfinder for the vulture squadron! ? 

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, peterb17 said:

On this point May is correct , the UK by far has the most sophisticated intelligence services and is a member of the ‘Five Eyes’ - oh well- with no free movement with Europe- maybe the UK will have to go it alone on security matters.

Not the best idea. 

 

 

I think if the EU actually took advice they would actually realise that but.....rools is rools!

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, vogie said:

Shhh, you know who might find out. ???

Holy flying game birds, Vogieman. It's The Grouster! Mission compromised! Plan B.....Plan B!!

[janclaes47]

7 hours ago, peterb17 said:

On this point May is correct , the UK by far has the most sophisticated intelligence services

Don't get confused by James bond, it's only fiction

[aright]

36 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Holy flying game birds, Vogieman. It's The Grouster! Mission compromised! Plan B.....Plan B!!

 Please, not Plan B...…….the ultimate weapon...…..The lead shot Pilgrim!

Edited June 29, 2018 by aright