How to change NON O to NON B , with extension due in next year

[ajoy]

I want change my Non O visa to Non B visa my extension will get over next year so should I make a exit without taking a re entry to cancel my existing

visa to change to Non B visa .

[ubonjoe]

You cannot change from a non-o visa to a non-b visa within the country.

If you are on an extension of stay issued by immigration it might be possible to change the reason for it to one based upon working it you can have a work permit application accepted. A lot depends upon what the basis for the extension of stay is you have now.

[ajoy]

I have an extension based on my wife working on Non B now since I got a job  they are asking to change visa to Non B

with all document support from school but I have to go to home country so should I make a exit without taking re entry 

so that my existing extension get cancel.

[overherebc]

15 minutes ago, ajoy said:

I have an extension based on my wife working on Non B now since I got a job  they are asking to change visa to Non B

with all document support from school but I have to go to home country so should I make a exit without taking re entry 

so that my existing extension get cancel.

There is in fact no need as the labour office will issue a WP on a non O visa in most areas.

[ubonjoe]

If the company was was able to submit a application for a work permit and obtain work permit application approval letter it would be possible to change the reason for you extension to working. After you changed the reason the reason for your extension the work permit would be issued.

[ubonjoe]

Just now, overherebc said:

There is in fact no need as the labour office will issue a WP on a non O visa in most areas.

He does not have a valid non-o visa. He has a extension of stay based upon his wife's extension of stay.

Most work permit offices will not accept an application for the work permit with that type of extension.

[overherebc]

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

He does not have a valid non-o visa. He has a extension of stay based upon his wife's extension of stay.

Most work permit offices will not accept an application for the work permit with that type of extension.

We are both using the word 'most' so it might be worth asking the labour office.

[ajoy]

Thank you I will ask enquire again with the organisation but in case if i need to get this extension cancel should i make a exit .

 

[ubonjoe]

If the work permit application was accepted your extension would be canceled so that a new one could be issued at about the same time.

If you leave the country and enter without a re-entry permit it would be canceled. But the problem you have is the most you can get is a 15 day visa on arrival without returning to India to get a new visa. In that case your employer would have to do a WP3 work permit application while you are out of the country so that you can apply for a non-b visa.

[elviajero]

4 hours ago, overherebc said:

There is in fact no need as the labour office will issue a WP on a non O visa in most areas.

There is every need.

 

“Most” labour offices will only issue a WP on a non ‘O’ with proof of being the spouse or parent of a Thai.

 

If a labour office were to issue a WP to the OP, working would invalidate their permit to stay issued by immigration.

[overherebc]

8 minutes ago, elviajero said:

There is every need.

 

“Most” labour offices will only issue a WP on a non ‘O’ with proof of being the spouse or parent of a Thai.

 

If a labour office were to issue a WP to the OP, working would invalidate their permit to stay issued by immigration.

I did answer based on the opening post stating Non 0 visa and extension next year. Turned out he doesn't have a non 0 visa but is already on an extension of stay.

[elviajero]

8 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I did answer based on the opening post stating Non 0 visa and extension next year. Turned out he doesn't have a non 0 visa but is already on an extension of stay.

The answer was wrong regardless.

 

He does have a non ‘O’ otherwise he wouldn’t get a permit to stay extending his stay based on his wife’s permit to stay. The type/category of visa used to enter the country remains relevant throughout the duration of stay.

[overherebc]

9 minutes ago, elviajero said:

The answer was wrong regardless.

 

He does have a non ‘O’ otherwise he wouldn’t get a permit to stay extending his stay based on his wife’s permit to stay. The type/category of visa used to enter the country remains relevant throughout the duration of stay.

We could argue on this all day.

It's not often you are wrong but in this case you are wrong again. His O visa is gone dead useless expired no longer working. It was merely what his extension was issued on. Note the use of the word was, not is.

[elviajero]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

We could argue on this all day.

It's not often you are wrong but in this case you are wrong again. His O visa is gone dead useless expired no longer working. It was merely what his extension was issued on. Note the use of the word was, not is.

Which of the facts I have stated are wrong?

 

You don't seem to have read or understood my post. The non 'O' visa, if used or expired, can no longer be used to enter the country, BUT it's existence and type/category will remain relevant for the duration of his stay. Note the word 'relevant'.

 

The non 'O' (used/expired or not) is relevant for the basis of the current and any future permission to stay, and the activities he can carry out based on that visa/stay permit. His stay permit (permission) is based on being the spouse of a foreigner that is working, and that permission doesn't extend to allow him to work, even if the labour office issue a WP. In the OP's case he needs to change his visa category and or the basis of his permit to stay to have a valid permit to stay.

 

 

[overherebc]

18 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Which of the facts I have stated are wrong?

 

You don't seem to have read or understood my post. The non 'O' visa, if used or expired, can no longer be used to enter the country, BUT it's existence and type/category will remain relevant for the duration of his stay. Note the word 'relevant'.

 

The non 'O' (used/expired or not) is relevant for the basis of the current and any future permission to stay, and the activities he can carry out based on that visa/stay permit. His stay permit (permission) is based on being the spouse of a foreigner that is working, and that permission doesn't extend to allow him to work, even if the labour office issue a WP. In the OP's case he needs to change his visa category and or the basis of his permit to stay to have a valid permit to stay.

 

 

Do you do this to try to confuse people??

[elviajero]

10 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Do you do this to try to confuse people??

If you find that confusing, why on earth are you trying to give people advice.

[overherebc]

31 minutes ago, elviajero said:

If you find that confusing, why on earth are you trying to give people advice.

I have 3 dogs.

One is the father of the other two ( by different mothers )

I can only take two dogs for a walk or utilise two dogs to guard the house. In fact the older of the two dogs has retired and the younger dog has taken over her duties.

The reason I can't take three dogs for a walk is because the first dog is dead so therefore is pretty much no use to anyone.

Suppose I should add he's dead but he did father the other two but no more than that.